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Welcome to the New England Patriots Forum first published article of the Patriots Forums Free Press. Our objective is to bring you the comings and goings on the New England Patriots organization. We'll cover everything from rumors pertaining the Patriots, to the NFL Draft, to fun and games when your head is crammed with too much information.

We have a smaller staff but mind you that it is very difficult to find a large sum of committed members to take in part in something like this.

While you will get the privilege to read articles from some of footballs futures most knowledgeable members I would like to take the time to recognize the members who work behind the scenes.

PatsDynasty21 was in charge of editing the defensive and editorial column; rabbisson's duties included being the NFL draft column editor; And finally, icecoldbruschi edited the articles from our offensive team writers.


What will you find and where?
Page One: Offensive and defensive team columns
Arrow "The Men Behind the Men Behind the Greatness"
Arrow "New Beginnings"

Page Two: NFL Draft and Opinion columns
Arrow Patsfan01 looks at the 2008 NFL draft
Arrow Is Wes Welker the best Patriots WR?

Page Three: Fantasy Football mailbag, Rumors, and Fun Games columns
Arrow Aaron Rodgers?
Arrow Pesky Jets fans at it again?
Arrow What's wrong with Tom Brady?

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The Men Behind the Men Behind the Greatness
By: tomski_29


Patriots head coach, Bill Belichick

Bill Belichick - Head Coach

This man needs no introduction, one of the greatest head coaches of all time. His extensive game planning and half time adjustments are legendary. His defensive gameplan for the New York Giants against the high powered Buffalo Bills offense is enshrined in the Hall of Fame. He has always been a defensive minded coach, but he still has lots to do with the offensive success of our team. He preaches situational football more than any other head coach, as our players are ready for literally any situation that may come up (see: 2001 AFC title Game). I feel that if Belichick turned his attention towards the offense we would have no drop off at all because he can do everything, remember that we had no offensive coordinator title in 2005 and he and Brady took the team to the playoffs.

Career record 124-84 (.596)
Regular Season 111-81 (.578)
Post Season 13-3 (.813) This is second best in history behind the 9-1 (.900) mark of Vince Lombardi
Patriots Record 87-39 (.690)

He was born April 16, 1952 in the home of country music, Nashville Tennesse but was raised in Annapolis Maryland, which is home to the US Naval academy. At High School Belichick was a standout player being inducted into Annapolis High’s Hall of Fame. He enrolled at Wesleyan University where he was both Center and Tight End. He was a better lacrosse player and still has great interest in lacrosse, all three of his children play lacrosse which Belichick enjoys immensely. He is divorced, but he has a new girlfriend of late who has been spotted at Celtics games with Belichick.


Patriots offensive coordinator, Josh McDaniels

Josh McDaniels - Offensive Coordinator / QB coach

The heir apparent. At just 31 years of age, he led the offense to the greatest statistical season ever, breaking records in points scored, touchdowns scored and extra point attempts. Brady and Moss attained touchdown records in throwing and receiving respectively in magnificent years. He was a WR in college at John Carrol University where he was teammate to Nick Caserio, the WR coach, who ironically played QB.

He first entered the NFL in 2001 as a personnel assistant and in 2002 and 2003, he began working as defensive secondary assistant. This has led him to more effectively game plan his offense as he says he has knowledge as to how the DBs would play his receivers and can adjust accordingly. One simple example of this is putting his WRs in motion against bump n run corners to prevent man to man coverage and route disruption.

He started working with the offense and it is suggested that it was he who called the plays in the 05 season with no named OC. In '05, his official role was QB coach, but he was promoted in 06 to his current dual role as OC and QB coach. Brady and McDaniels have a very good relationship, they are of very similar age and have a number of shared interests.

There has been some chatter of him possibly coaching elsewhere. However, you can't go wrong with teaching the best QB in the game and learning from the best coach in the game. He has his best years clearly in front of him, and there is very little reason to leave a good thing now.

He is Married with two children, he was born in Canton Ohio and played for Canton Mckinley High school as a kicker and as QB. He is 32 and was born on April 22, 1976.


Patriots running back coach, Ivan Fears

Ivan Fears - Running Backs Coach

Possibly one of the best named coaches in the league, entering his 17th year as a coach, Ivan Fears is, like most of our staff, a three time Super Bowl winner. 11 years of his coaching career in the NFL have been with the Patriots, as he has also been the Wide Receivers coach twice with the Patriots, 1991-92 and 1999-2001 and also with the Chicago Bears from 1993-1999. He was renamed as the Patriots RB coach in 2002. His best years as RB coach came in 2006 and 2004. In '06, with Corey Dillon and rookie Laurence Maroney, our rushing attack averaged 123.1 yards a game and Corey Dillon became the NFL's active career rushing leader, passing OJ Simpson for 14th all time on the list. In 2004, Corey Dillon set the Patriots rushing record with 1635 yards and led the NFL in average yards per game at 107. Fears is somewhat of a jack of all trades. Over his career, he has been a QB, WR and RB coach. He went to the College of William & Mary where he was a RB for two years before becoming a graduate assistant in 1976 and the WR coach in 1977. His playing career was cut short due to a persistent knee pain that could not be resolved after three operations to try and repair it.

He was born November 15, 1954 in Portsmouth Virginia. He played at John Yates High where he was twice named Outstanding Player of the Year. He is married with three children.


Patriots tight end coach, Pete Mangurian

Pete Mangurian - Tight Ends Coach

This year will be Pete Mangurian’s 28th year as a coach, 16th in the NFL. He was named as TE coach in 2005 and had an instant improvement on the TE corps. In 2005 the TEs caught 12 touchdown passes which was the most in 21 years. They also had an average of 13.2 YPC which was the highest for 18 years. Daniel Graham and Ben Watson combined for eight receptions of 25 yards or more which led the AFC and was second only to Atlanta in the NFL.

Atlanta, ironically is where Mangurian has spent three seasons as a coach, becoming OC in 2003. In 2002, he was offensive line coach and the Falcons excelled in rushing setting team records in YPC at 4.53, touchdowns (23) and most 30 point games (Cool. Mangurian has also served as a head coach at Cornell University and in the final two years of his tenure he set the school record for the best ivy league record in a two year span at 10-4. His NFL coaching career started in 1988 when he was hired by the Denver Broncos and with whom he saw his first Superbowl in the 1989 season. He spent a number of years at the collegiate level, most memorably as the offensive line coach of his Alma mater, LSU, where they reached four consecutive bowl bids and set school records for total offense on three separate occasions.

At LSU, as a player he played the Defensive tackle position, but was not a remarkable player. He was born on June 17, 1955 and is married with three children.


Patriots offensive line coach, Dante Scarnecchia

Dante Scarnecchia - Offensive Line Coach / Assistant Head Coach

This man is possibly the closest we can get to a true Patriot, a 38 year coaching veteran who has spent 24 years as a Patriot coach; the longest tenure in franchise history. He joined the Patriots in 1982 and apart from 1989 and 1990, he has been a Patriot ever since. He is the only coach to have been on the staff during all five Super Bowls and has coached in 27 of the teams 31 playoff games. Entering this season Scarnecchia will be coaching the offensive line for the 9th consecutive season. He has been OL coach for 22 of his 38 seasons in coaching. On February 1, 2000 he was named by Bill Belichick as his assistant head coach.

He preaches consistency and cohesion in his lines, this is a key factor in the Pats OL not giving up silly penalties or missing assignments, everybody knows their role and sticks to it. Last season the OL only gave up 21 sacks which was remarkable due to the number of pass plays run by the team. The OL also allowed Maroney to have a 4.5 YPC and gain 6 TDs. Despite our lack of star power on our line, they have played greater as a whole than the sum of their parts. We have one of the better lines in football and "Scar," as he is affectionately known, is a big reason why.

Scarnecchia has also been a special teams coach and in 1997 the team had a league leading 45.8 yard gross punt average, the first time ever the team had led the NFL in the category. The Patriots also had the second best punter, the fifth best punt returner and the AFC ST player in the pro-bowl was a Patriot.

His coaching career began in 1970 as OL coach at California Western University, it was here he played collegian football between 1968-1970. He was born February 15, 1948 in LA, he is married with two children.


Patriots wide receiver coach, Bill O'Brien

Bill O’Brien - Wide Receiver Coach

Bill O’Brien was hired by the Patriots last year as an offensive assistant, a title once held by Josh McDaniels. This will be his first year as a position coach in the NFL but he coached for 12 years in the NCAA all in the tough ACC. In 2001 he was offensive co-ordinator and QB coach for the Georgia tech team that led the ACC in passing and finished third in the league in scoring.

He is a native New Englander born in Andover, Mass. He went to Brown University where he played DE and LB from 1990-1992. He was born October 23, 1969.



Clipboard in hand
By: hollywood14


Patriots 2008 Third Round Pick, Kevin O'Connell

At 6-4, 220 pounds, many scouts had this to say about him; “Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.” Who is him? That would be New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, the 199th selection in the 2000 NFL Draft.

Fast forward eight years, three superbowls, an MVP, and a baby later and now you read this; “Has excellent size and a big frame...Terrific athleticism...Great timed speed...Arm is strong enough to make all the throws..Nice touch and timing..Is mobile enough to buy time in the pocket and make plays with his feet...Can throw on the run...Hard worker...Very competitive...Team leader...A lot of experience...Has a ton of upside.”

No, that is not Brady’s current scouting report, instead, it is Patriots 2008 third round pick Kevin O’Connell’s.

Kevin O’Connell?

While his name may not be known, the San Diego State product was the fifth QB selected in the NFL draft behind Atlanta’s Matt Ryan, Baltimore’s Joe Flacco, Packers’ Brian Brohm, and Dolphins’ Chad Henne. Like Brady, NFL draft “experts” had him ranked in the middle tier and many draft tidbits were stunned to see him selected in round three.

However, we all know that not every sports figure can play into their mid 30’s, except for that guy named Farve. So, do the Patriots like this guy that much to have him be the protege behind future hall of famer Brady? It would seem that way.

At San Diego State, O’Connell was surrounded by a plethora of talent; Kidding. Often on the run because of his pores offensive line, O’Connell led the Aztecs in rushing, gaining 408 yards. Yes, 408 yards. Tell me if that is an indicator of a team’s offensive line. The Aztecs finished the 2007-2008 season with a mere 4-8 record, but that was not because of the play of O’Connell; Whom had six games which included at least 250 passing yards, and one of which when he threw for 443 yards, albeit against Portland State.

In Indianapolis, for the NFL combine, O’Connell, ran a blistering 4.61 forty yard dash and quickly started to climb up draft boards. On the eve of the NFL draft in fact, ESPN’s Ron Jaworski actually ranked O’Connell in the top five for QB’s. The Patriots then sent offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels out to San Diego to visit with O’Connell. A feat that is extremely rare with teams in this league. They reportedly clicked, and O’Connell won over the graces of the Patriots coaching staff.

Patriots head coach Bill Belichick had this to say about O’Connell; “He played on a passing team in a passing league, in all honesty not behind a real good line. So he was kind of on the run a little bit. I thought he held in there and did a pretty good job of being productive and making good decisions, and a lot of times he was under a lot of pressure."

With backup QB Matt Cassel becoming a free agent after the 2008 season it would seem like he will be shown the door. Cassel, a 7th round pick in 2005, was never more then a backup in his entire football career and has regressed on the field year after year. Obviously the Patriots did not feel secure in having Cassel being the backup QB again for Brady. Cassel has had some opportunities; one for example, came against the Miami Dolphins, in which he went 0-2 with an interception. Belichick did not waste a minute after that as he quickly put Brady back into the game.

O’Connell will come into a great situation where he can learn from the greatest QB of all time and eventually become his Steve Young.

Hopefully, he is ready to take notes.






New beginings
By: finn54


Patriots first round pick Jerod Mayo is introduced to the media at Gillette stadium with owner Bob Kraft and son Jonathan

3rd Feb. 2008: Picture the scene. The desert held no limits as the AFC and NFC champs square off in an epic encounter. The AFC champion New England Patriots path to perfection was a laborious one. Led with a powerhouse offense, the Patriots strolled into Arizona with a surprisingly atypical attitude. During the media week leading up to the big game, QB Tom Brady joked about the opposition’s lack of respect for the Patriots offense (whilst bearing a worrying ankle injury). But as the night progressed, it was clear that maybe there was a hint of arrogance in Brady's remarks, as the New York Giants stole the show and became world champions, defying all odds and logic to hoist the Lombardi trophy.

With a final score of 17-14, little has been made of some questionable Belichick decisions. The Patriots attempted a 4th-and-13 instead of kicking a FG, abandoned all logic on the final drive; slinging hopeless deep balls to a double covered Randy Moss (when the Patriots had a full set of timeouts and only needed 40 yards for a reachable FG), and for sticking with vanilla offensive plays (which Josh McDaniels should take the blame for). So imagine the confusion when fans turned on the defensive side of the ball to blame for the Superbowl loss. All of the above decisions were made on offense, and considering the stout defensive performance of holding the Giants offense to 17 points, it was a classic example of Brady's untouchable attitude that he took no blame for the loss.

The defensive unit of last year turned in a worrying season. The linebacker corps looked tiresome and fatigued in the latter stages of perfection, and saw their performance grades inflated with the best offense in NFL history. It is not erroneous to assume that the Patriots offense became their defense, a seemingly monumental swing in philosophies for defensive mastermind Bill Belichick. A former defensive coordinator of the New York Giants, Belichick has been known to craft wonderful schemes to slow down juggernaut offenses, such as the early 90's Buffalo Bills, or the 2001 St. Louis Rams. The defense lived off a phenomenal offensive spectacle, and as a result, it seemed to set up a worrying future for a once great unit.

And then rolled on the offseason. Star defensive back Asante Samuel departed for the Philadelphia Eagles, leaving the position of CB threadbare and lacking any form of leadership. The linebacker corps remained an aging threat to the franchise, and Rodney Harrison strongly hinted that the upcoming year would be his last. But Belichick was not unprepared for such a scenario. Loaded with draft picks and astute free agent signings, Belichick has revamped the unit, infusing youth with established veterans to provide a fresher outlook for the upcoming season.

Heading the free agent class are Fernando Bryant and Victor Hobson. Bryant, a nine year veteran, has played under secondary coach Dom Capers in Jacksonville, implying a further motive for the Patriots to chase his signature. Bryant should fill the CB spot left by Samuel in a classic "solid-not-spectacular" fashion, a previous winning blueprint formulated by Belichick. Bryant has suffered from his fair share of injuries in the past, but started all 16 games last year in a reliable fashion. Victor Hobson, the linebacker, signed a one year contract, coming over from the rival New York Jets. Having previously played OLB, Hobson is expected to move inside to his more natural position, and is projected as a day one starter. Hobson offers more stamina and athleticism than Bruschi or (the current free agent) Seau, and looks to give similar production levels to Bryant. Both acquisitions should fill considerable holes in the Patriots defense, and when coupled with the draft picks, they form a solid outlook for the defense.

The 2008 NFL Draft saw the New England Patriots holding a top 10 pick for the first time since 2001. After attaining the seventh overall pick from the 49ers a year ago, the Patriots held a lot of flexibility on draft day, with no real need to overpay a day one impact year. As it progressed, the Patriots traded the pick to the New Orleans Saints which saw the Patriots land the 10th overall pick and the 78th overall pick (in exchange for the 7th and 164th overall), and then the New England Patriots drafted Jerod Mayo, linebacker from Tennessee. Mayo joins the Patriots as a leader of the Vols defense, displaying excellent awareness and athleticism. Mayo is not expected to contribute from day one, but given the appropriate time he should become a young star that Belichick so desperately needs at the linebacker spot. The pick was greeted with somewhat surprise from Patriots fans, as Belichick has not taken a linebacker higher than the fifth round before 2008. The coach continued to buck this trend in the third round, when OLB Shawn Crable was drafted. Both linebackers are seen as essential for the Patriots future, and yet again Belichick appears to have maintained a superlative reputation on draft day. In the second round, Belichick and Scott Pioli chose CB Terrence Wheatley from Colorado. Wheatley showcased great speed and intelligence at Colorado, and looks like a good fit for the secondary.

Given the strong defensive off season, the future is much more promising than before. Future stars such as Vince Wilfork, Mayo, Brandon Meriweather, Elliss Hobbs, Crable, James Sanders and Wheatley insure the future of the Patriots. The veteran presence guarantees time for the youth the grow and blossom, as well as maintaining all the necessary pieces to sustain another Superbowl run. Needless to say, doubts about the Patriots defense are fallacious at best.



Ole' Reliable
By: coachconrad


Free agent, Junior Seau, celebrates

Really, as of right now the main thing here is: To come back? Or not to come back?

With Seau, I break it down into two main things. One is if he can come back and help the team. Two is if there is room for him. So for the first part, it’s a simple yes. If Junior Seau were to come back, he could very well start in front of both Victor Hobson and 2008 first round draft pick, Jerod Mayo. The main thing I see is that the Pats have a very large group of LB’s to begin with and in that group there is going to be some very strong competition. Right now, the Patriots have a total of 12 LB’s on the team. I expect a maximum of eight to make the team. In that eight I see: Adalius Thomas, Mike Vrabel, Tedy Bruschi, Hobson, Mayo, Larry Izzo, Shawn Crable, and one either Pierre Woods, Gary Guyton, Vince Redd, or a possible Seau. Now coach Belichick has praised multiple times the play and work ethic of Woods but if Seau were to come back, then Woods and the rest of the outsiders would most likely take a backseat to the possible 19th year vet. Now there are a couple of reasons to still believe that Seau could be back. His number has not been taken despite the numerous LB’s on our team, his locker hasn’t been cleared out, and there have been enough rumors that he and Belichick have talked and he has been told that he has a spot on the team to come back anytime he wants.

My verdict: too many coaches, teammates, and friends entice Junior to come back and get that ring he has always missed.



Training Camp Battles: Defensive Line
By: icecoldbruschi

The defensive line is one of the many strengths of the New England Patriots, and probably the most important unit of their defense. With two Pro Bowler-caliber players in Vince Wilfork and Richard Seymour, they attract a double team on almost every play, allowing the linebackers to disrupt plays. In my mind, not only is Ty Warren the most underrated Patriot player, but he is also one of the most underrated in this entire league. I really thought he was going to make the Pro Bowl two years ago, but unfortunately, he just doesn't have that Richard Seymour-esque reputation. Jarvis Green is a great pass rusher, and our defense has barely missed a beat when he stepped in for Big Sey during his injuries.

Is it possible for Jarvis Green to overtake Richard Seymour this preseason?


Patriots defensive lineman, Jarvis Green, as he recovers a fumble

An emphatic NO. For some reason, there is a portion of Patriot fans who feel that Richard Seymour has lost his touch and isn't the same dominant force he once was. The fact of the matter is that Seymour has been decimated by injuries, however, when healthy (which he now appears to be), Seymour is a premier player in this league. The numbers favor Seymour, as during his extended absences, the rushing defense has been worse. Jarvis Green is a pass rushing specialist, first and foremost, and a very good one at that, but he is not an every down back in this league and he will not even come close to beating out Seymour for the job.

This is the only real spot open this preseason, as I figure that two of them make the team. Versatility is key with all three of these guys and I expect bigger contributions from them in the future.

Le Kevin Smith vs. Mike Wright vs. Santonio Thomas


Patriots defensive lineman, Mike Wright

Le Kevin Smith has proved to be a quality backup in his past couple of years. Sure he hasn’t made any game changing plays, but the Patriots defensive linemen aren’t really supposed to. Their primary objective is to fill the gaps so our linebackers get the ball, not pile up huge sack numbers. I think this might be the year that Smith really breaks out. Last year, he appeared in 13 games and although he only recorded 3 tackles, he looks very promising.
Odds to Make the Team: 70%

I really don’t understand the fascination with Mike Wright. I really don’t see much in him to be honest. Yes, he is that undersized, overachieving, versatile player that has been the Patriot way. However, for a guy who is primarily a 3rd down passing situation rusher, he has only garnered 1.5 sacks in his three year career. Yet, some actually thought a team would shell out a second or third round pick for his services this off season? Working in Wright’s favor could be that he has also been on many of the special teams units in the past.
Odds to Make the Team: 70%

I won’t lie, I doubt that Santonio Thomas has much of a shot to make the team over the other two, but I decided to include him anyways. Was it just me or did it seem that he actually got some time during the games he was active in? He only played in 4 games, and recorded 3 tackles, but it just seemed that I saw him a lot more last season that than.
Odds to Make the Team: 25%

My Prediction: Both Wright and Smith make the team. I really see a bigger role this year for Smith and he is one of my choices for players to break out this year. Wright is nothing more than Dan Klecko 2.0, but I guess we always need a guy like that.
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Big names should dominate the 2008 NFL Draft
By: Patsfan01



LSU's Tyson Jackson

As the 2008 NFL Draft slowly passes us and rookies start to enter the next phase in their NFL careers, guys like me are already looking into the next year's draft! The NFL Draft may be the greatest time of the year, but unfortunately we have to wait 200+ days until the next one. As I take a brief and early look into the 2009 NFL Draft, one thing sticks out to me is that the talent in the 2009 NFL Draft is going to be so much better then what it was in the 2008 NFL Draft. Some can argue that the QB position, RB position, WR position, OL position, DE position, LB position, CB position, and the S position will all be better and more talented then the 2008 NFL Draft. Another thing that should be noticed when taking a look into the 2009 NFL Draft is the amount of big named guys we could possibly have next year. It all starts off with Heisman trophy winner, Tim Tebow. Tebow, who will be junior next season, had a historical year last year for the Gators as he threw for over 3200 yards, had 32 touchdown passes and only 6 interceptions, ran for over 850 yards, and had 23 rushing touchdowns. Some argue that Tebow is going to be a major bust at the next level, but those numbers in the toughest conference in football, is pretty darn good if you ask me and he can not be ridden off yet as a bust. Behind Tebow, we could hear names like Matthew Stafford of Georgia, Chase Daniel of Missouri, Sam Bradford of Oklahoma, Curtis Painter of Purdue, Cullen Harper of Clemson, Hunter Cantwell of Louisville, Colt McCoy of Texas, Graham Harrell of Texas Tech, and Dan LeFevour of Central Michigan. This QB class is going to possibly be one of the better ones in the past ten years. At RB, the two guys who could battle it out for the top RB spot could be Chris "Beanie" Wells of Ohio State and Knowshon Moreno of Georgia. Both guys are incredibly talented and I could definitely make an argument that both are better prospects then top RB, Darren McFadden was this past year. Behind them, you have the likes of James Davis and CJ Spiller of Clemson, Arian Foster of Tennessee, LeSean McCoy of Pittsburgh, Marlon Lucky of Nebraska, Keiland Williams of LSU, and Harvey Unga of BYU. Then you have the wide receiver position led by the one and only Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech. Crabtree set all kinds of receiving records for Texas Tech this past season and I don't see him doing any worse this upcoming season. We are going to hear all up until next years draft about Crabtree being a so-called "product of the system", but I disagree 100%. All you guys have to do is watch him go to work on CB's next season. Behind him, you have Percy Harvin of Florida, Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, Darrius Heyward-Bey of Maryland, Kenny Britt of Rutgers, and Brian Robiskie of Ohio State. Other big names on the offensive side of the ball include top OL prospect, Michael Oher of Ole Miss as well as Alex Boone of Ohio State, Max Unger of Oregon, and Phil Loadholt of Oklahoma.

Now to the defensive side of the ball. Many big names should hear their names get called very early in the 2009 NFL Draft, but the ones that stick out to me most are Tyson Jackson of LSU, George Selvie of South Florida, Rey Maualuga of USC, Malcolm Jenkins of Ohio State, and William Moore of Missouri. Tyson Jackson and George Selvie are both freaks which is really the only way you can describe the two of them. Jackson is going to be primarily a DE in the NFL whereas I could definitely see Selvie converting to a 3-4 OLB. Many people hear the name James Laurinaitis and think "the best LB in the draft," but some are now starting to realize that a guy by the name of Rey Maualuga of USC is taking over that throne, especially after his Rose Bowl performance. This will be an ongoing debate throughout the season and I plan on taking an in-depth look later on. Many believed Malcolm Jenkins would be the first CB taken in the 2008 NFL Draft and would easily be a top 10 pick, but after he withdrew his name from the Draft, Jenkins was easily put on the top of the list for CB rankings for the 2009 Draft. It should be no different as the year goes on and Jenkins constantly sees his name on the top, but he does need to be careful with a few good CB's behind him like Vontae Davis of Illinois and Victor "Macho" Harris of Virginia Tech. Many people look at the name William Moore; they say "Who the hell is that?" He is the starting safety for Missouri and he had an absolutely amazing year last year racking up 115 tackles, nine for losses, two sacks, two forced fumbles, five pass deflections, eight Interceptions, and one TD. If he has anywhere near the year he had this past season, it is going to be nearly impossible for another safety to pass him even if he is named Myron Rolle of FSU, Taylor Mays of USC, Nic Harris of Oklahoma, or Derek Pegues of Ole Miss. Overall the 2009 Draft Class is looking super mighty and if everyone declares, it could be the best overall draft class in the past five years.





Who is Really the Most Valuable WR?
By: SoxNats07


Patriots receivers Randy Moss and Wes Welker embrace after a play

It is a well-known story that in the 2006 season, Tom Brady had mediocre receiving talent, relying on the likes of Reche Caldwell to be his number one receiver. So, after the season, the Patriots sought to add some more weapons for Brady. During the draft, they traded a fourth round selection they had acquired from San Francisco (which ended up being the trade that netted us the seventh pick in the 2008 draft) to Oakland for disgruntled wide receiver Randy Moss. He had refused to play during parts of the previous few seasons, and maintained a strenuous relationship with Oakland management. However, the Patriots felt they could bring him back to his previous form he displayed in Minnesota, totaling 9,142 yds and 77 TDs over seven seasons. Despite rumors he would be cut during the preseason, he was not, and he ended up totaling 1,493 yds, 98 receptions, and an NFL record 23 receiving TDs in his debut season with the Patriots. However, the regular season does not tell the whole story. In the playoffs he totaled a mediocre 94 yds, seven receptions, and one TD in three games.

Now we turn to the lesser-acclaimed acquisition of the 2007 offseason, Wes Welker. He was an RFA, but the Dolphins ended up trading him to the Patriots for their second and seventh round picks in the 2007 draft. Welker had mainly been used on special teams in the past, but the Patriots decided to employ him in the slot, and he responded with a fantastic season recording 1,175 yds, 8 TDs, and 112 receptions, tying him for the NFL lead, along with TJ Houshmandzadeh, in receptions. However, Welker showed his true value in the playoffs, with 27 receptions, 213 yds, and two TDs.

Statistically, Randy Moss had a much better season than Welker, except for in one category: receptions. Welker had 14 more receptions than Moss despite having fewer yards, simply because his role was to get catches under 10-15 yds, and then record yards after the catch, which he lead the NFL in (YAC). Moss ran deep routes most of the time, rarely running routes under 15 yards.

I will focus most of my argument on playoff statistics, and here is why: Playoff teams are much better than in the regular season, so you don’t have those blowout games like against the Bills or the Redskins. During the playoffs, beginning with Jacksonville, teams would send a safety over the top to guard Moss along with the cover man, thus preventing Moss from making catches. They would have a linebacker and/or a nickel back cover Welker. However, Welker had reception totals of nice, seven, and 11 in the each playoff game respectively while Moss had a total of two receptions against the Chargers and Jaguars combined.

In the playoffs, Wes Welker was Tom Brady’s main target. True, Brady would probably look to Moss first, but he would most likely end up throwing the ball to Welker, who excelled at converting third downs along with Faulk. Many may disagree with my belief, so I ask you to take a step back and look. If the Patriots won the AFC East with a 12-4 record in 2006 with the likes of Reche Caldwell, who is to say they would not win the division in 2008. They had upgraded their defense with linebacker Adalius Thomas, and Donte’ Stallworth would have been a pretty good number one target with Gaffney across from him and Welker in the slot. They could easily have achieved a record of around 13-3 or so. Although Welker’s numbers would have been down, one can assume they would have made the playoffs, and possibly gotten a bye. So now you look towards the playoffs and you can see how Moss was unproductive, and therefore Welker could be considered more valuable. A logical argument would be that Welker was more open due to the fact that Moss consistently got double and even sometimes triple teams. So you can deflate Welker’s numbers a bit, but that extra safety who would in theory be guarding Moss would not be guarding a slot WR because he would risk being burned by Stallworth, so Welker would still have around 20 receptions. But without Welker, I can honestly say I don’t feel we would have made it to the Super Bowl. So, although it is a controversial belief, I would have to say that Wes Welker is the most valuable wide receiver on the New England Patriots.



Pats Publicity Problems
By: coachconrad


Patriots offensive right tackle Nick Kaczur

Being a Patriots fan is one of the most privileged sports fans that you can be. Whether you boast the three out of four superbowl championships, the 21 game winning streak, or the multiple record-setting, near-perfect season, you can always find a way to let the opponents’ fans know that their team is still much inferior than ours. A privilege that has been taken away has been the one of the “Perfect Patriot” public image. This certain image has taken a serious hit over the past year. The whole “Spygate” issue was what jump started it all. The name 'Bellicheat' and the labeling of cheaters have been really hard to hear as a fan, but have done much worse to the team name even if some of the allegations aren’t true. To continue, this past off-season has been one that resembles one that would be conducted by the Cincinnati Bengals. First, S/CB Willie Andrews was charged with intention to sell pot. Then one of our veteran leaders, RB Kevin Faulk, gets nailed for having a couple of joints on him. Finally, inefficient RT Nick Kaczur gets arrested in some drug sting for Oxycontin. Being the serious fan I am, I don’t mean to rant. But, I believe that I can speak on behalf of the Patriot nation and its fan base in saying that we have lost the great privilege of saying our team is sparkling clean.
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Patsfan01's 3 pack of Questions
By: Patsfan01


Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers

1.) Is this finally the year that Tom Brady passes Peyton Manning as the top Fantasy QB?

-For the past 5 years, there has not been a QB in Fantasy that has really even come close to the amount of points that Peyton Manning has put up. Due to that being the case, Manning has been a consistent first round pick the past 5 years and has been the only QB really worthy of a 3rd round or higher draft spot. The past 5 seasons, Peyton Manning has thrown for more then 4,000 yards in 4 of them (the other one he threw for over 3,700 yards). He also has thrown for at least 28+ TD's in all 5 of those seasons, including his 49 TD season in 2004 and over the past two seasons, he has thrown for 31 TD's each year. Also in those 5 years, the most INT's he has thrown is 14 which came last year, but Manning has also made that up with two straight years with at least 3 rushing TD's as well. With that said, there may be a new man in the Fantasy world named Mr. Brady. We all know about Tom's big and historical year which set all kinds of records in the Fantasy world as he was the largest fantasy point scorer by a large margin. Also over 60% of the teams last year that had Brady went on to play in the Championship game! So is this the year that a new QB takes over the spot as the #1 QB or should Peyton Manning stay in that spot? The answer is simply yes. Tom Brady has done enough to take over that spot as the #1 QB in fantasy and because of it, Brady should be taken similar to where Manning was taken after Manning threw for 49 TD's (probably anywhere from 3-7 in round 1). We can also expect Brady to have another huge year with over 3900 yards passing and around 40-45 TD passes which should easily get him right back in the top 3 for point scorers in the fantasy world.

2.) Should people drafting always go the RB-RB combo in the first two rounds?

-Since beginning to play Fantasy Football six years ago, I have heard almost everyone say that you MUST take a RB in the first two rounds because RB's do get the most points in Fantasy. While this is true, I don't necessarily think that you have to take a RB in the first two rounds. This year is no different. If you are drafting in the top 3, are you going to pass up one of the 3 stud RB's? No. But if you are towards the end of the first round and you have a chance to land a Tom Brady or a Randy Moss, do you pass on them to take a guy like a Marshawn Lynch or a Marion Barber? My answer is no. Many people try to hard to get 2 early RB's feeling that if they do land two good ones, they will automatically win the championship. The fact is there are many RB's who can be drafted in rounds 4 and 5 who can very easily put up similar if not better numbers then those drafted at the ends of round 1 and the beginning of round 2. Take a look back a few years ago with Frank Gore and Larry Johnson. It is Gore's second season and people aren't drafting him until rounds 6 and 7. That year Gore tore up the Fantasy world and put up more points then over half the RB's taken in rounds 1 and 2. Some people weren't drafting Larry Johnson until the 11th round 3 years ago when Priest was still there and LJ ended up carrying teams to championships that year. So it is indeed possible to take a RB later on and have them produce up to the ability to a #2 RB and this year will be no different as you could come away with some solid RB's in rounds 4 and 5 and stack up on the QB or WR position. If you get two solid RB's, but your WR's are 30-40 points a week better then your opponent, you will find yourself in better shape then magazines tell you. Go with the stud WR or QB before you take that #2 RB.

3.) Name your top 5 sleepers. (1 Qb, 2 RB's, 2 WR's)

-My QB sleeper is definitely Aaron Rodgers. While I could put Derek Anderson on the list, I feel he has already proven himself enough. Rodgers, on the other hand, has not. This is going to be the year where Rodgers needs to step up and shine. After drafting Brian Brohm, the Packers now have two good young QB's to work with, but the pressure is on Rodgers to perform. Last season when Favre went down with a small and minor injury against the Cowboys, it was Rodgers who needed to step in and take on the Dallas pressure. He ended up throwing for 3 TD's and only 1 INT in that game. I think this season, Rodgers is going to surprise a lot of people in the fantasy world as I expect him to put around top 10 QB numbers. How can the guy not with the weapons he has around him? My sleeper RB is Ronnie Brown. As we all remember last season, Brown started off the year as the best fantasy RB by a pretty good margin. He had over 600 yards rushing, over 300 yards receiving, and 5 total TD's in just 7 games last year. If he had continued that streak, he would have had over 1500 yards rushing, 700 yards receiving, and probably around 13-15 TD's. Those numbers are easily worthy of a top 5 pick in fantasy. This season Miami really doesn't have all that hard of a schedule (23rd toughest against the run), so expect Brown, if healthy, to inch in on those numbers. Right now I see Brown going a lot in round 2, but if he is fully healthy come training camp, I think he should definitely be in the rang of the 6-9 picks in round 1. My sleeper at the WR position is going to be Anthony Gonzalez of the Colts. Marvin Harrison has been involved in a lot of off-the-field issues this offseason and on top of that, he will be turning 35 this season. Harrison is a great WR, but injuries are becoming a problem for Marvin and his production at the WR position has declined. We all expect Reggie Wayne to be the go-to-guy for Manning, but Manning needs somewhere else to go with the ball other then Wayne and Clark. Gonzalez should see a lot of time at the #2 WR spot for the Colts so I expect him to see a lot of games where he is putting up 4-5 catches, 80 yards, and a possible TD which is awesome for the #3 WR spot in Fantasy. If you load up on a QB, RB's, and 2 awesome WR's and you are looking for a 3rd one in the late rounds, don't be afraid to jump on Gonzo because I really do think you will come away very happy with the pick.




Jets Fan Suit not Dead!

By: PatriotsWin!


New York Jets fans at the NFL Draft.

Apparently Carl J. Mayer, the crazed Jets fan that sued the Patriots back in September, is still seeking compensation from the New England Patriots for "deceiving customers." Due to inactivity in the case, it was planned to be dismissed on June 30, but a federal judge has given Mayer more time to amend his claim against the organization and their head coach, Bill Belichick. Mayer is suing for a whopping $184.8 million, the amount he says is owed to season ticket holders who he claims watched eight fraudulent games due to the Patriots videotaping opponents signals. It appears that Mayer and his lawyer Bruce I. Afran have filed similar suits against New Jersey Politicians in the past, however, all of which fizzled out. Just another futile attempt to collect some green. Hopefully this suit doesn't turn out any differently than his other ones.





Patriots starting quarterback Tom Brady is put on display for all you to see, but, something appears to be wrong. Can you tell the difference? There are six differences from both pictures.

By: xmike609x



Patriots Trivia

Courtesy of Boston Sports Hub

Question 1: Former Patriots All-Pro Willie McGinest attended which Pac Ten College?
A.)Arizona State
B.)UCLA
C.)USC
D.)Washington State

Question 2: Which Patriot tied the NCAA Division 1-A career sack record while in college?
A.)Tedy Bruschi
B.)Ted Johnson
C.)Willie McGinest
D.)Rosevelt Colvin

Question 3: Who was the highest draft pick among the following players?
A.)Daniel Graham
B.)Ty Warren
C.)Richard Seymour
D.)Vince Wilfork

Question 4: Who scored the first points for the Patriots in Superbowl XXXVI against the Rams?
A.)Tom Brady
B.)David Patten
C.)Ty Law
D.)Adam Vinatieri

Question 5: Who is the Patriots all-time leading rusher?
A.)Tony Collins
B.)Sam Cunningham
C.)Curtis Martin
D.)Jim Nance
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Thanks to everyone in the Pats forum.

Comment away!
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I was hoping we'd get something about what went wrong in the Superbowl.
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Gmen wrote:
I was hoping we'd get something about what went wrong in the Superbowl.


Superbowl? What superbowl? I don't remember any superbowl.

That's my story and i'm sticking to it Not talking
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Wow, that game by mike is pretty sweet.
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PatsDynasty21 wrote:
Wow, that game by mike is pretty sweet.

Tell me about it.

It took me like 20 minutes to find the last one. Very fun and addicting.
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hollywood14 wrote:
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Patriots starting quarterback Tom Brady is put on display for all you to see, but, something appears to be wrong. Can you tell the difference? There are six differences from both pictures.

By: [b]xmike609x






Tom Brady:

1.] Pats logo on the front of the jersey.
2.] The rolls at the bottom of his jersey.
3.] Hair on the right arm
4.] Color of the shoes.
5.] The color of the jersey around the neck.
6.] Can't find the last one. Laughing

Good job putting this together though Hollywood. Very Happy
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the left's hair is bigger. don't know if thats the last one htough.
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mistakebytehlak wrote:
the left's hair is bigger. don't know if thats the last one htough.

I'm assuming so. Good catch.
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I'm not at all a Pats fan but this is really cool great job
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Here's what I got on the puzzle:



And a guide line proving the hair's length:

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The damn hairline, that's where I got messed up.

Great find, chief_fan822003.
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