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Steegles46


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: 2008 Draft Wrap-Up and Discussion Reply with quote

Okay folks, with the final selection by the Eagles, we have finished another draft for the year. A recap of the events:

Draft Trades
- Eagles trade (19) to Panthers for (43), (109), and 2009 1st Round Pick
- Eagles trade (115) to Dolphins for RB Lorenzo Booker
- Eagles trade (43) and (152) to Vikings for (47) and (117)
- Eagles trade (191) to Browns for 2009 5th Round Pick

Draft Picks
Round 1, Pick 19 (19) (Traded to Panthers)
Round 2, Pick 12 (43) (From Panthers, Traded to Vikings)
Round 2, Pick 16 (47) (From Vikings) - Trevor Laws (DT) Notre Dame
Round 2, Pick 18 (49) - DeSean Jackson (WR) California
Round 3, Pick 17 (80) - Bryan Smith (OLB) McNeese State
Round 4, Pick 10 (109) (From Panthers) - Mike McGlynn (OT) Pittsburgh
Round 4, Pick 16 (115) (Traded to Dolphins)
Round 4, Pick 18 (117) (From Vikings) - Quentin Demps (FS) UTEP
Round 4, Pick 32 (131) (Compensatory selection) - Jack Ikegwuonu (CB) Wisconsin
Round 5, Pick 17 (152) (Traded to Vikings)
Round 6, Pick 18 (184) - Mike Gibson (G) California
Round 6, Pick 25 (191) (From Browns, Traded to Browns)
Round 6, Pick 34 (200) (Compensatory selection) - Joe Mays (ILB) North Dakota State
Round 6, Pick 37 (203) (Compensatory selection) - Andy Studebaker (DE/OLB) Wheaton
Round 7, Pick 23 (230) (From Seahawks) - King Dunlap (OT) Auburn

So what do you guys think? Again, a lot of linemen selected. A couple of familiar faces, and a bunch of unknowns. But something screams in this draft: potential. What say you: a great draft, a decent draft, or a bad draft?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A really good draft. Of course, the #1 pick next year is going to be the main talking point, but when you add two impact players in Laws and Jackson on the first day, then add situational/role players in Smith, Demps and McGlynn plus you have talented guys like Jake, the linebackers and the linemen, I love the verstaility and directions we can go with those positions.

I'm looking forward to see what UDFA we bring in. Hopefully another DT and a big WR can compete for roster spots. This training camp is gonna be fun.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky_b27 wrote:
A really good draft. Of course, the #1 pick next year is going to be the main talking point, but when you add two impact players in Laws and Jackson on the first day, then add situational/role players in Smith, Demps and McGlynn plus you have talented guys like Jake, the linebackers and the linemen, I love the verstaility and directions we can go with those positions.

I'm looking forward to see what UDFA we bring in. Hopefully another DT and a big WR can compete for roster spots. This training camp is gonna be fun.


Agreed. I thought the draft would be terrible after we traded our first round pick, but we benefited from the deal and it turned out to be a good draft.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing is, we've got to wait another year for the next draft. Wonder who's gonna be the first poster to post their 2009 mock draft?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky_b27 wrote:
The only thing is, we've got to wait another year for the next draft. Wonder who's gonna be the first poster to post their 2009 mock draft?


I know the order is wrong but....

http://walterfootball.com/draft2009.php

There's one.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not overly thrilled over the draft, but this draft really helps our depth at certain positions and I can't be disappointed. Just not thrilled, although I will be next year.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a flashy draft, but we got guys to use and guys to create depth. Desean Jackson ought to aid our PR/KR game immediately, and can be a Devin Hester type contributor. Besides that we got a good DT to add to the mix, and some guys to come off the edge and get to the QB. We also added to the O-Line to load up for the future. Most importantly, though, is the addition of a 2009 1st, which we can use to try to obtain one of the elite safeties next year.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This draft was essentially a punt. It may work out later, but the problem is that if they're really looking to three or four years from now when the present is when they need to win.

Who knows what the Kolb era will bring? Why roll the dice with that when you know you have a top flight QB in McNabb? Donovan begged most of the offseason for playmaking help, and he got none. We all know DeSean Jackson will not play at all this year at WR because all rookies get redshirted by Reid. It's not so much the players they picked as to the immediate needs they ignored.

The coming 2008 season is basically a waste of time if the Eagles are finished making roster moves. Any positive analysis of the draft says that they will have some players in a few years. That's great, but many teams (including every other team in the NFC East) drafted players that can help immediately. I trust that Andy Reid has a plan, but it doesn't seem as if winning now is a part of that plan. Quite disturbing. I just can't believe he's leaving the season up to dumb luck instead of making definitive moves to make the team significantly better.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it was a decent draft, of course it's impossible to tell now.

Picks I really like:
Trevor Laws- Great kid, great energy, and gives us one of the best, young DT rotations in the league

DeSean Jackson- Finally the ST weapon we've been dying for. If he develops into a good #2 WR option, it'll be a bonus

Quentin Demps- A great cover safety who has the potential to take over for Dawkins

Picks I'm ok with:
Mike McGlynn- I would have preferred a true tackle, but he has the flexiblity we like in our linemen.

Jack Ikegwuonu- Has the potential to be a real good corner, but there's a lot of ifs with him

King Dunlap- Has the physical tools, needs to learn how to use them

Andy Studebaker- A workout freak, could develop into a blitzing specialist

Picks I don't like:
Bryan Smith- Way way too early in the 3rd round. What makes him better than Studebaker? Lots of other guys we could have taken.

Mike Gibson- Don't need anymore guards

Joe Mays- Don't think there's a chance he makes the team

I would give it a B- right now, depending on how we use that no.1 next year.
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FlyinDawkins wrote:
This draft was essentially a punt. It may work out later, but the problem is that if they're really looking to three or four years from now when the present is when they need to win.

Who knows what the Kolb era will bring? Why roll the dice with that when you know you have a top flight QB in McNabb? Donovan begged most of the offseason for playmaking help, and he got none. We all know DeSean Jackson will not play at all this year at WR because all rookies get redshirted by Reid. It's not so much the players they picked as to the immediate needs they ignored.

The coming 2008 season is basically a waste of time if the Eagles are finished making roster moves. Any positive analysis of the draft says that they will have some players in a few years. That's great, but many teams (including every other team in the NFC East) drafted players that can help immediately. I trust that Andy Reid has a plan, but it doesn't seem as if winning now is a part of that plan. Quite disturbing. I just can't believe he's leaving the season up to dumb luck instead of making definitive moves to make the team significantly better.


Thats probably the worst post I've seen about this draft and I think its completely wrong. The only problem with this offseason so far is that they didn't get a number one receiver or "playmaker" that McNabb wanted. This draft was definitley made for the here and now and could potentially be huge in 2009.

Trevor Laws can step in and play significant time as a rotational DT and DeSean Jackson is an instant shot in the arm to our return units. Those were the only two spots that a rookie could come in and play a significant amount of time.

Outside of those two they drafted a potential replacement for Dawkins in Demps that he can groom this year and potentially take over next year. Jack Ikegwuonu is a similar situation, he can spend thie year on IR learning the playbook and getting physically and mentally ready for 2009.

There are two potential starters in defense for 2009 and two 2008 significant contributors. The offensive line additions are strictly depth and camp competition to be molded by Juan Castillo. Bryan Smith will add DE depth and competition and Joe Mays will do the same at LB. Every position is being challenged except for the kicking/punting units which will most likely be addressed with post draft signings.

This draft also helps set up 2009, with two first round picks and Lito to be used for ammo we could do serious damage in the 2009 off season. We could either go the route of one more run with McNabb or to kick start the Kolb era very nicely. Yes I would love a first round OT to take over for Tra when he retires, Yes I would love a first round receiver to give McNabb his "playmaker" or to give Kolb an option for years to come, Yes I would love a first round saftey to take over for Dawkins, but the fact of the matter is every team only gets one first round pick. I personally believe at this point in time the direction they took was a good one and only time can tell how great it actually was.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eagles sign UDFA OT Franklin Dunbar, Middle Tennessee State
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Another draft where Andy Reid takes a lot of small "high motor, good work ethic" guys. AKA most the LBs will be Matt McCoy.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phire wrote:
Not overly thrilled over the draft, but this draft really helps our depth at certain positions and I can't be disappointed. Just not thrilled, although I will be next year.


Same i like the 1st 2 picks and Demps though Smile
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i'm very underwhelmed with this draft
with what was available and the player selected i felt that the birds could have done better
3 offensive linemen? this is bad even for andy reid
hate the bryan smith pick, he'll be just like matt mccoy v.2
def not a fan of studebaker
jack ikewahatever sitting on IR/PUP for a year bugs me with what was still on the board
also mays, studebaker and smith were all rated 3.5 in Ourlads. great.

but, i am a fan of laws and mcglynn and will hopefully warm up to jackson, even though i thought there were wr's more suited for this offense.

the panthers #1 was pretty awesome, but thats for next year, and this is this year
lorenzo booker basically spelled the end for ryan moats, which i'm all for.
but this team decided to draft like a team that won the nfc, and not a team that went 8-8. i expected more with what was on the boards at their picks.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broad Street Bullies wrote:
i'm very underwhelmed with this draft
with what was available and the player selected i felt that the birds could have done better
3 offensive linemen? this is bad even for andy reid
hate the bryan smith pick, he'll be just like matt mccoy v.2
def not a fan of studebaker
jack ikewahatever sitting on IR/PUP for a year bugs me with what was still on the board
also mays, studebaker and smith were all rated 3.5 in Ourlads. great.

but, i am a fan of laws and mcglynn and will hopefully warm up to jackson, even though i thought there were wr's more suited for this offense.

the panthers #1 was pretty awesome, but thats for next year, and this is this year
lorenzo booker basically spelled the end for ryan moats, which i'm all for.
but this team decided to draft like a team that won the nfc, and not a team that went 8-8. i expected more with what was on the boards at their picks.

-I didn't like the Gibson pick but the other 2 lineman were good. Dunlap is a project but has very good potential if we can get him to focus.
-Smith is a DE so I don't get the McCoy comparison
-I didn't know much about Studebaker but I've read multiple reports that say he was a huge sleeper and steal for the eagles
-Ikegwuonu was a steal. He was my #1 CB before his injury and I guarentee would have been a top 20 pick without his injury. I know you don't want to see a rookie on IR but he's worth the wait.
-Wouldn't pay much attention to Ourlads.
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