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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ndamukong Suh indicated on Twitter today that he was fined $20,000 for his hit on Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton in last Friday’s preseason opener. Suh was fined twice by the NFL for violent hits last year. He was fined $7,500 last preseason for a facemask takedown of Cleveland Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme, and docked $15,000 for an open-handed shove to the back of Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110817/SPORTS01/110817032/Suh-apparently-fined-20-000-massive-hit-Bengals-QB?odyssey=tab



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWERWvEnO4&NR=1


Money well spent. You want the QB being nervous in pocket.

All the dirty player talk is junk. He simply plays with intensity. The ONLY hit I question is Delhomme hit and I think that was simply a rookie getting to QB for first time and being over amped
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO that wasn't a dirty play. You're told to get the QB down any way necessary, and I've seen much worse. Can't fault him for playing at a high intensity level.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
Ndamukong Suh indicated on Twitter today that he was fined $20,000 for his hit on Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton in last Friday’s preseason opener. Suh was fined twice by the NFL for violent hits last year. He was fined $7,500 last preseason for a facemask takedown of Cleveland Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme, and docked $15,000 for an open-handed shove to the back of Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110817/SPORTS01/110817032/Suh-apparently-fined-20-000-massive-hit-Bengals-QB?odyssey=tab



video of the play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWERWvEnO4&NR=1




They should introduce an in the grasp call where if a defender has a hold of the QB the play is dead. This play and the play with Cutler it's ridiculous to fine Suh. Either tackling is legal or introduce touch football rules to protect the QB.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diehardlionfan wrote:
vike daddy wrote:
Ndamukong Suh indicated on Twitter today that he was fined $20,000 for his hit on Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton in last Friday’s preseason opener. Suh was fined twice by the NFL for violent hits last year. He was fined $7,500 last preseason for a facemask takedown of Cleveland Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme, and docked $15,000 for an open-handed shove to the back of Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110817/SPORTS01/110817032/Suh-apparently-fined-20-000-massive-hit-Bengals-QB?odyssey=tab



video of the play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWERWvEnO4&NR=1




They should introduce an in the grasp call where if a defender has a hold of the QB the play is dead. This play and the play with Cutler it's ridiculous to fine Suh. Either tackling is legal or introduce touch football rules to protect the QB.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOCBh4L5ABk

Now if Suh had done THAT to Dalton I would get fine. Harrison drove his head toward the ground.

That is a lot different than Suh pulling down Dalton
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing Suh does is dirty.

QB's need to learn their place, and when they are playing against Suh their place is on the Ground. If they choose to go against it, so be it. Suffer the consequences.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nothing Suh does is dirty.

QB's need to learn their place, and when they are playing against Suh their place is on the Ground. If they choose to go against it, so be it. Suffer the consequences.


Exactly, but hes getting a reputation as a dirty player because he plays with passion, aggression and intensity....im sorry but i thought thats what you wanted from your football players?.....or am i missing the point Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't see Suh as dirty in that he is intentionally meaning to hurt players, but i do see him as an undisciplined tackler that could cause injury through what so many of you downplay as passion.

let's face it, his technique (as demonstrated by the recent incident with Dalton's neck and head) is not how players are taught to tackle.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i don't see Suh as dirty in that he is intentionally meaning to hurt players, but i do see him as an undisciplined tackler that could cause injury through what so many of you downplay as passion.

let's face it, his technique (as demonstrated by the recent incident with Dalton's neck and head) is not how players are taught to tackle.



I agree, but you can't fault him for seeing the play through. He got into a akward position and still managed to pull him down. Was it a correct tackle? Nope, but a guy that big can tackle you a multitude of ways.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think he is a dirty player, and I sure wish we had him on our team!

Detroit has the makings of a very dominant D-line for years to come.
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In another sign that the Lions are finally bringing some optimism to Detroit, their Week 5 game against the Bears on Monday Night Football sold out today just 45 minutes after individual tickets became available.

It says a lot about how awful the Lions have been over the last decade that a 6-10 season is considered progress, but the way the Lions played in 2010, especially late in the season, has plenty of Detroit fans feeling like 2011 is finally the year that Lions tickets will be worth the money.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/24/lions-week-5-monday-night-game-already-sold-out/
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Of course, by the time that game comes, former Viking Shaun Hill will be behind center wearing the Honolulu Blue, because once again, Stafford will be on IR. Wink
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S Louis Delmas and CB Chris Houston sustained Grade 2 MCL tears during Detroit’s Thanksgiving Day loss to Green Bay, according to multiple reports. Both players’ injuries were originally classified as short-term, but the MCL tear diagnosis carries a longer recovery period. Jim Schwartz said Thursday he expects both players to play again this season.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/16366587
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In addition to announcing that all Lions coordinators have signed contract extensions, G.M. Martin Mayhew has said that the team will try to sign two of its key players to new contracts.

According to Anwar Richardson of MLive.com, Mayhew said the team wants to sign receiver Calvin Johnson and defensive end Cliff Avril to new contracts.

The motivations are entirely different. Avril will become a free agent in March. Johnson, who signed a six-year deal when taken with the second overall pick in the 2007 draft, has unlocked a cap-busting base salary of $14 million for 2012, according to NFLPA records.

Signing Johnson to a long-term deal would drop his cap number and free up more money to do other business. Likewise, the failure to sign Johnson would require the Lions to use the franchise tag in 2013 to keep Calvin around, with a one-year tender that would be, at a minimum, $16.8 million.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/12/lions-want-to-sign-calvin-johnson-cliff-avril-to-new-contracts/
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According to Brian McIntyre of Mac’s Football Blog and footballoutsiders.com, quarterback Matthew Stafford has a $1-million escalator in his rookie contract if he ranks in the top five in either passing yards, passing touchdowns or passer rating. Stafford finished third in passing yards and touchdowns and fifth in passer rating this season.


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Stafford already was set to have a base salary of $10.5 million next year, with a cap number of more than $16 million. Both of those numbers will increase by $1 million.



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Yes, the Lions have receiver Calvin Johnson under contract for one more year. Yes, they’d like to extend his contract.

But the reality is that they need to.

Johnson’s cap number for 2012, according to a source with knowledge of the contract, exceeds $21 million.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/14/calvin-johnsons-21-million-cap-number-ties-lions-hands/
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