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Taylor-36 Portis-26
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 Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: Do you believe Buffalo will resign Clements this offseason? |
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| I personally don't believe they will let him go after letting Winfield walk a couple years ago, plus him and Takeo are the cornerstones of that defense. I was interested in what you guys thought, especially those who live in Buffalo who can keep track of the team better. |
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soxfin22
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it seems as though they do not want him any more
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| Hes a top 5 corner back in the nfl and hes on pace to be the best cornerback of all-time (in terms of ints and tds) so i think there is no way the bills let him go. Theyll put the franchise tag on him. |
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Taylor-36 Portis-26
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| Phreak wrote: | | Hes a top 5 corner back in the nfl and hes on pace to be the best cornerback of all-time (in terms of ints and tds) so i think there is no way the bills let him go. Theyll put the franchise tag on him. |
I totally agree that he's a top 5 cornerback, I talked about this in another thread, that he is really underrated. Nobody knows who he is and last year probably had the best year of any cornerback with 78 tck, 5 ff, and 6 ints, not to mention he's still only 25(unless ESPN is lying to me again  ) |
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soxfin22
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he is not a top five corner
no way
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Taylor-36 Portis-26
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| soxfin22 wrote: | he is not a top five corner
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How is he not a top 5 corner? He doesn't get burned often and look at his stats for the first 4 years:
Stats Team TCKL SOLO ASST SCK SCKYDS FF INT YDS AVG TD LONG PD
2001 Bills 65 55 10 1.0 1.0 3 3 48 16.0 1 48 14
2002 Bills 64 51 13 0.0 0.0 0 6 82 13.7 1 42 19
2003 Bills 62 51 11 0.0 0.0 0 3 54 18.0 1 54 7
2004 Bills 78 58 20 0.5 0.0 5 6 77 12.8 1 35 14
Career 269 215 54 1.5 1.0 8 18 261 14.5 4 54 54
Name 5 corners better I want to see your list.
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Phreak
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Taylor-36 Portis-26 wrote: | | Phreak wrote: | | Hes a top 5 corner back in the nfl and hes on pace to be the best cornerback of all-time (in terms of ints and tds) so i think there is no way the bills let him go. Theyll put the franchise tag on him. |
I totally agree that he's a top 5 cornerback, I talked about this in another thread, that he is really underrated. Nobody knows who he is and last year probably had the best year of any cornerback with 78 tck, 5 ff, and 6 ints, not to mention he's still only 25(unless ESPN is lying to me again ) |
hahaha, he actually is 25. Atleast i think so... And i agree with you here. He is the most underrated CB in football right now. He is straight up amazing and he dosent get credit for it because he was overshadowed by other players on the defense like spikes and winfeild. He really proved himself last year because he went up against all the number one recievers on teams. Nate Clements can play football, and he does one hell of a job at it to. He is on pace to be the greatest CB of all time. In the first four years of anyones career, nobody has done what clements has done in his first four. He has the most interceptions and most tds by any player in the HISTORY of the nfl in there first four seasons. Now that is feat. He is greatly underrated and he will continue to be great as his career goes on. He is definitly a top 5 corner in the nfl. |
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Taylor-36 Portis-26
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Phreak wrote: | | Taylor-36 Portis-26 wrote: | | Phreak wrote: | | Hes a top 5 corner back in the nfl and hes on pace to be the best cornerback of all-time (in terms of ints and tds) so i think there is no way the bills let him go. Theyll put the franchise tag on him. |
I totally agree that he's a top 5 cornerback, I talked about this in another thread, that he is really underrated. Nobody knows who he is and last year probably had the best year of any cornerback with 78 tck, 5 ff, and 6 ints, not to mention he's still only 25(unless ESPN is lying to me again ) |
hahaha, he actually is 25. Atleast i think so... And i agree with you here. He is the most underrated CB in football right now. He is straight up amazing and he dosent get credit for it because he was overshadowed by other players on the defense like spikes and winfeild. He really proved himself last year because he went up against all the number one recievers on teams. Nate Clements can play football, and he does one hell of a job at it to. He is on pace to be the greatest CB of all time. In the first four years of anyones career, nobody has done what clements has done in his first four. He has the most interceptions and most tds by any player in the HISTORY of the nfl in there first four seasons. Now that is feat. He is greatly underrated and he will continue to be great as his career goes on. He is definitly a top 5 corner in the nfl. |
That's exactly what I'm saying only in greater detail , I can't believe how this guy continues to go unnoticed. |
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CandylandBills
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| I hope they at least franchise him if they cannot get a contract worked out before next season. And certainly he is a top 5 cb in the league soxfin22, name your top 5 if clements isn't. |
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Ares Caesar
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I cant see how they would let him walk, unless they are strapped for cash, and some team makes a McAlister or Bailey-like offer for him.
franchise tag and a trade would be the best move if they cant afford to resign him.
I'm not sure he's in my top 5 list yet (Bailey, McAlister, Winfield, Rolle, Surtain, and arguably Law & Bly) BUT he definitely is in my top 10 list, and I could very soon put him into the top 5 list once Rolle and Law get too old to keep up.
Honestly, you couldnt draft a top 5 CB thats as sure thing as Clements, and a top 5 CB would cost hardly any less than Clements will, so to me it seems like a no brainer to resign him, especially with the importance of having "shut down" corners.
Oh, and statistically, Anthony Henry (of the Cowboys, formerly Browns) is actually RIGHT behind Clements in stats, 1 less INT, a couple less deflections and only a dozen or so less tackles... Of course I dont think Anthony Henry is even worthy of holding Clements jock, but statistically speaking he's right up there with him. (just goes to show that when it comes to CBs, stats mean very little) 
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Taylor-36 Portis-26
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| Ares Caesar wrote: | I cant see how they would let him walk, unless they are strapped for cash, and some team makes a McAlister or Bailey-like offer for him.
franchise tag and a trade would be the best move if they cant afford to resign him.
I'm not sure he's in my top 5 list yet (Bailey, McAlister, Winfield, Rolle, Surtain, and arguably Law & Bly) BUT he definitely is in my top 10 list, and I could very soon put him into the top 5 list once Rolle and Law get too old to keep up.
Honestly, you couldnt draft a top 5 CB thats as sure thing as Clements, and a top 5 CB would cost hardly any less than Clements will, so to me it seems like a no brainer to resign him, especially with the importance of having "shut down" corners.
Oh, and statistically, Anthony Henry (of the Cowboys, formerly Browns) is actually RIGHT behind Clements in stats, 1 less INT, a couple less deflections and only a dozen or so less tackles... Of course I dont think Anthony Henry is even worthy of holding Clements jock, but statistically speaking he's right up there with him. (just goes to show that when it comes to CBs, stats mean very little) |
Yeah stats are misleading for corners but all you have to do is watch Clements play and you'll see. I definately think Clements is at least 4th in the list of corners, I guess behind Bailey, Surtain and McAlister, but you could make an arguement for him to be ahead of them. I'd probably have Winfield round out my top 5. I definately can't see Bly and Law(at least now) ahead of him. |
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soxfin22
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| Taylor-36 Portis-26 wrote: | | soxfin22 wrote: | he is not a top five corner
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How is he not a top 5 corner? He doesn't get burned often and look at his stats for the first 4 years:
Stats Team TCKL SOLO ASST SCK SCK YDS FF INT YDS AVG TD LONG PD
2001 Bills 65 55 10 1.0 1.0 3 3 48 16.0 1 48 14
2002 Bills 64 51 13 0.0 0.0 0 6 82 13.7 1 42 19
2003 Bills 62 51 11 0.0 0.0 0 3 54 18.0 1 54 7
2004 Bills 78 58 20 0.5 0.0 5 6 77 12.8 1 35 14
Career 269 215 54 1.5 1.0 8 18 261 14.5 4 54 54
Name 5 corners better I want to see your list. |
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dabs21nike
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I will honeestly boycott the Bills if we let Clements go. That would just be the dumbest thing they could do.
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Nate Clements is a Top 3 Corner! Yes I said it. oh yeah and in terms of all around defense Nate Clements is the best overall Corner in the NFL!!!!
I hope to GOD the Bills don't resign him and I hope to God Cleveland brings him back home we'd have the best corner in the NFL and a very good #2 with Baxter where he is best suited to play anyway.
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