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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:18 pm    Post subject: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly vs the Chargers Reply with quote

Go.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fire tarver?
Ugh I'm so pissed yet there were so many positives. Give me a minute
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good -

Derek Carr was superb for most of game, bar bad decision at the end.

O-Line terrific and run game did well.

Carrie looked good again.

Sio made some plays.

Bad -

D generally was terrible, especially 2nd half.

Ugly -

Chargers fake punt pass Laughing

Drop catches Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good

Carr - save the last throw the kid was terrific
OL - pass protection enabled us throw down the field and we finally had some run game

Bad

Janos missed field goal on ht

Ugly

Pass defense. No pass rush and coverage was beat too often.
Drops on Offense, far too many
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good

Carr his play was very good period! No except for this or that.

Dmc running with purpose

Carrie going full speed on returns

and I cant believe it but offensive play calling

bad

pass rush in second half

pass defense

drops drops drops

missed field goal

ugly

not fighting for the ball on the last play. Say whatever you like opinions are like buttholes but I liked the call and the play. Not real sure Carr wasn't trying to get the pi called. Regardless I was so happy to see us try to win and not tie. But the fact is you HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THE BALL!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good:
- TJ Carrie. Good coverage all around, save for the one catch. Solid ball skills and helps in the run game. Returned well too.
- DMC running hard and the OL giving him a chance.
- Butler making the most of his opportunities.
- Holmes crazy catches
- Defense getting some stops
- King punted pretty well
- Sio had his moments
- Olson play calling so much better. Sparano clearly had a hand in that. Even if it was just showing Olson what wasn't working.
- Brown and Rogers got burnt sometimes but had some good plays too. Rogers is good chipping into the run D
- CJ Wilson

Bad:
- Not finishing/getting sacks when we have pressure
- Carrie muff. Would be ugly if he didn't recover it.
- Reece. Where you at?
- Burris. Had a few bad plays but had a few good ones. Hey, he's not in ugly though so I'll take the improvement.

Ugly:
- Drops. Wtf dude, Carr can't do it all alone.
- Defense half the time. Shredded by Rivers and those last Olvier runs were rough.
- Jano miss. He hits that first FG and we might just win the game. Can't afford to screw up the one time we need him.
- Penalties. Got worse with it this week, but I guess that comes with the extra aggression.
- Austin Howard being clueless on the fumble that got called back

Derek Carr section:

Good:

- Making plays when they were there
- Long TD to Holmes
- Nice pre-snap reads for the most part
- Back shoulder throws are straight cash
- Patient in the pocket. No sacks, but those kinda were lucky.

Bad:
- Under pressure he crumbles sometimes. Had 2 or 3 picks dropped. Plus the Intentional Grounding
- Missed a few throws accuracy-wise.

Ugly:
- The interception. Hero ball.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good
Carr- looks like he can be the face of the franchise. already making players around him better

oline got a nice push. penn plays with a mean streak, good protection, opened up holes.

mcfadden and jones drew looked fresh- especially mcfadden

wide outs made some plays. holmes jones butler are all capable of getting open(more butler please)

cj wilson- best defensive line fa pick up. solid role player

tj carrie- i want to see him start


bad
defense line getting pushed back

K Mack- come on needs tp produce more for being a top 5 pick. being outplayed by Anthony Barr whos suppose to be a project. didn't make any horrible plays but isn't making that impact.

secondary- averge at best, looks worse with no pass rush

drops- wideouts need to improve in this area
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
Good:
- TJ Carrie. Good coverage all around, save for the one catch. Solid ball skills and helps in the run game. Returned well too.
- DMC running hard and the OL giving him a chance.
- Butler making the most of his opportunities.
- Holmes crazy catches
- Defense getting some stops
- King punted pretty well
- Sio had his moments
- Olson play calling so much better. Sparano clearly had a hand in that. Even if it was just showing Olson what wasn't working.
- Brown and Rogers got burnt sometimes but had some good plays too. Rogers is good chipping into the run D
- CJ Wilson

Bad:
- Not finishing/getting sacks when we have pressure
- Carrie muff. Would be ugly if he didn't recover it.
- Reece. Where you at?
- Burris. Had a few bad plays but had a few good ones. Hey, he's not in ugly though so I'll take the improvement.

Ugly:
- Drops. Wtf dude, Carr can't do it all alone.
- Defense half the time. Shredded by Rivers and those last Olvier runs were rough.
- Jano miss. He hits that first FG and we might just win the game. Can't afford to screw up the one time we need him.
- Penalties. Got worse with it this week, but I guess that comes with the extra aggression.
- Austin Howard being clueless on the fumble that got called back

Derek Carr section:

Good:

- Making plays when they were there
- Long TD to Holmes
- Nice pre-snap reads for the most part
- Back shoulder throws are straight cash
- Patient in the pocket. No sacks, but those kinda were lucky.

Bad:
- Under pressure he crumbles sometimes. Had 2 or 3 picks dropped. Plus the Intentional Grounding
- Missed a few throws accuracy-wise.

Ugly:
- The interception. Hero ball.


Can't really blame carr. he is a gun slinger and was trying to win the game. hell this fan base deserves a little excitement
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good

Carr- the kid is showing up week in and week out improving

OL less a couple penalties

Bad

Run defense, we are getting torched so easy

Jano missing a halftime fg

Burris getting pancaked by a RB on QB scramble
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Lamarr Woodley has escaped the wrath of the fanbase again, dude is pathetic and should not be starting.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nodisrespect wrote:
Apparently Lamarr Woodley has escaped the wrath of the fanbase again, dude is pathetic and should not be starting.


he had a couple pressures. he should just be pash rush specialist
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nodisrespect wrote:
Apparently Lamarr Woodley has escaped the wrath of the fanbase again, dude is pathetic and should not be starting.


I think we'll talk about him when he finally does something. I'm more concerned about Mack not having much of an impact rushing the passer.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EricAllen21 wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Apparently Lamarr Woodley has escaped the wrath of the fanbase again, dude is pathetic and should not be starting.


he had a couple pressures. he should just be pash rush specialist


Yeah, I did forget about him but he did have some pressures. Today isn't the day to dog on him like the others have been.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
EricAllen21 wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Apparently Lamarr Woodley has escaped the wrath of the fanbase again, dude is pathetic and should not be starting.


he had a couple pressures. he should just be pash rush specialist


Yeah, I did forget about him but he did have some pressures. Today isn't the day to dog on him like the others have been.
I missed the first half, I assumed that he was just as bad as he's been all year.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really bummed I missed this game, looks like it was 100x better than the last ones. Just looking at the stat lines, jesus did Carr have a great regular season break out game. Holmes looks like he had a great day too. Mack only had 2 tackles?
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