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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject: NFC East Rivals Reply with quote

What are each of the NFC team's biggest strengths & weaknesses? I have a pretty good idea on each of them, but I would like everyone else's opinions. Let me hear 'em.
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Every team in the NFC or the NFC East? Reason I'm asking is because of the title of the thread.
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Redskins

STRENGTHS

Clinton Portis (RB) - He's the only player with any potential on the offensive side of the ball. Quick, agile, and just a dynamic playmaker.

Stingy run defense (DEF) - They can't score points, but they can stop others from scoring on them. Very similar to the Cowboys' defense in 2003.

WEAKNESSES

Overall offense (OFF) - Their passing game is anemic at best, with Patrick Ramsey being nothing shy of a punching bag. Joe Gibbs is too conservative in opening up the playbook and it hurts the team.

Pass rush (DEF) - They don't have any to speak of, and have to rely completely on stopping the run in order to stay in ballgames. Their lack of generating turnovers will hurt them because teams will adjust to their very basic defensive schemes.

Joe Gibbs (Head Coach) - His time has obviously come and gone. I don't think he has the edge needed to be a successful head coach in the NFL anymore due to being out of the game for so long.

Dan Snyder (Owner) - As long as he's in charge, the Redskins will always be in salary cap trouble, and he'll overpay over-the-hill veterans who can't contribute.

Sean Taylor (S) - Going to prison. Nuff said.

LaVar Arrington (LB) - The most overhyped player next to Michael Vick. He routinely misses his assignments and takes the wrong angles, thus killing the Redkins' run defense. They were lucky to have him on IR for most of last season.



Philadelphia

STRENGTHS

Donovan McNabb (QB) - The guy just makes plays. He can make things happen, even without anyone on offense to make anything happen with. A born leader, and a genuinely good person.

Bryan Westbrook (RB) - The true savior of that offensive system. He's as versatile as they come, and as lethal as you can get. He can run, block, catch, and make people miss, helping him pick up the tough yards. He's a blessing to that team.

Andy Reid (Head Coach) - Great coach. Great mind. Bill Walsh disciple.

Jeremiah Trotter (LB) - He's old, but he's the heart and soul of their defense. Even with two bad knees, he still steps up and does exactly what they need.

Brian Dawkins (S) - The best Free Safety in the NFC.

Corey Simon (DT) - Great run stuffing DT who gives 110% every second of every play. He's quickly becoming one of the best DT's in the NFL today.

Jeffrey Lurie (Owner) - What a class act. If every NFL owner was like him, we wouldn't see many players hold out and complain about money because he won't tolerate that kind of insubordination. He honors his word, and is willing to bend over backwards to do things the right way to help the team win.

WEAKNESSES

Donovan McNabb (QB) - As talented as he is, he doesn't have enough to win the tough playoff games when under pressure.

Andy Reid (Head Coach) - I lost faith after his dismal coaching job in the last 5:50 of the Super Bowl. No Two Minute Offense, yet they're down by 10 points. Terrible clock management. He should know better.

Terrell Owens (WR) - Biggest pile of crap in the NFL, period. A true team cancer who will tear apart any franchise that he's a part of. And just a worthless human being despite his enigmatic talent.

Todd Pinkston (WR) - You can't count on him to make the tough catches across the middle. He alligator arms his catches because he's afraid of getting hurt.

Jon Runyan (OT) - Too old, too slow, hurt too often.


New York

STRENGTHS

Eli Manning (QB) - Yes he's young. But he's loaded with potential and raw talent. No one discount or overlook the "Manning Pedigree", either. He'll be a very successful QB in the NFL, and this season will see the beginnings of his ascention into the elite.

Tom Coughlin (Head Coach) - Love him or hate him, he's a great coach. No nonesense, and gets more out of his players then people think they're capable of giving.

Tiki Barber (RB) - The fumbleitis has subsided and he's finally living up to his hype.

Michael Strahan (DE) - He's old, but still one of the best pure pass rushers that we've seen in the last 10 years.

Chris Snee (OG) - A young stud who plays bigger than he is (and he's not a small man), and has a genuine mean streak.

Jeremy Shockey (TE) - Tons of potential, get receiving threat, and a powerful blocker.

WEAKNESSES

Tiki Barber (RB) - When is going to remember that he's Tiki Barber?

Jeremy Shockey (TE) - Loaded with talent, but a headcase in the making. Will be a team cancer if he doesn't mature.

Amani Toomer (WR) - Too old to be a major contributor at this stage in his career.

Plaxico Burress (WR) - All the physical tools, yet none of the hands. A "me first" player who has yet to live up to his hype and earn the right to talk such a great game. He can't put his stats where his mouth is.



Dallas

STRENGTHS

Bill Parcells (Head Coach) - Still has enough left in the tank to prove he's one of the best to have ever coached. Gets more out of his players than anyone thinks possible.

Jerry Jones (Owner) - A man willing to do whatever it takes to help his team win; even park his ego and his nosey power and control hungry ways to coexist with Bill Parcells. A class act who, despite his bad reputation, is well respected amongst all NFL brass.

Julius Jones (RB) - He's young, but proving himself as a perfect successor to Emmitt. Great ability, nice vision, and can cut on a dime. Very elusive.

Jason Witten (TE) - One of the best TE's in the NFL today. Improved his blocking skills from his rookie season, and looks to become one of the more dominant overall (blocking and catching) TE's that the NFL has seen since Jay Novacek or Todd Christensen.

Keyshawn Johnson (WR) - His numbers may not reflect it, but his presence and locker room voice speaks volumes. He's come a long way from being a greedy piece of trash.

Larry Allen - Best OG ever. Still plays with intensity. His skills have dimished some with age, but Parcells reignited that spark and fire that used to burn so brightly in his youth.

Roy Williams - Defensive captain, and a team leader. His coverage skills are marginal, but his passion is nonpareil.



WEAKNESSES

QB Position - Until Bledsoe or Henson prove otherwise, this is a weak spot for the Cowboys, and has been for the last 5 years.

Kurt Vollers/Torrin Tucker (RT) - These guys plain stink. The Cowboys' running game will take a hit until this area improves.

Terry Glenn (WR) - Talented yes, but terribly injury prone. At his age, it can be deadly (see last season).

WR Core - Very weak overall. Aging veterans and a lack of first round talent will hurt them until they improve this area. Jason Witten can't do everything in the passing game.

Free Safety (DEF) - Still a sore spot due to going into training camp without anyone as a potential starter. Can really hurt their secondary if not addressed.

Pass Rush (DEF) - Yes, they had a great draft. Yes, Ware, Spears and Burnett have potential. But, can you expect a high level of production from rookies playing in the 3-4?

Overall Defense (DEF) - This is a transition year and may come back to haunt the Cowboys, especially if they're involved in tight games.

Bill Parcells (Head Coach) - He can be too stubborn and bullheaded at times, and it cost the team a few games last year. Needs to park his pride a little bit and work on developing some of the younger players instead of filling the team with a bunch of aging veterans.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plan9misfit wrote:
Redskins

STRENGTHS

Clinton Portis (RB) - He's the only player with any potential on the offensive side of the ball. Quick, agile, and just a dynamic playmaker.

Stingy run defense (DEF) - They can't score points, but they can stop others from scoring on them. Very similar to the Cowboys' defense in 2003.

WEAKNESSES

Overall offense (OFF) - Their passing game is anemic at best, with Patrick Ramsey being nothing shy of a punching bag. Joe Gibbs is too conservative in opening up the playbook and it hurts the team.

Pass rush (DEF) - They don't have any to speak of, and have to rely completely on stopping the run in order to stay in ballgames. Their lack of generating turnovers will hurt them because teams will adjust to their very basic defensive schemes.

Joe Gibbs (Head Coach) - His time has obviously come and gone. I don't think he has the edge needed to be a successful head coach in the NFL anymore due to being out of the game for so long.

Dan Snyder (Owner) - As long as he's in charge, the Redskins will always be in salary cap trouble, and he'll overpay over-the-hill veterans who can't contribute.

Sean Taylor (S) - Going to prison. Nuff said.

LaVar Arrington (LB) - The most overhyped player next to Michael Vick. He routinely misses his assignments and takes the wrong angles, thus killing the Redkins' run defense. They were lucky to have him on IR for most of last season.



Philadelphia

STRENGTHS

Donovan McNabb (QB) - The guy just makes plays. He can make things happen, even without anyone on offense to make anything happen with. A born leader, and a genuinely good person.

Bryan Westbrook (RB) - The true savior of that offensive system. He's as versatile as they come, and as lethal as you can get. He can run, block, catch, and make people miss, helping him pick up the tough yards. He's a blessing to that team.

Andy Reid (Head Coach) - Great coach. Great mind. Bill Walsh disciple.

Jeremiah Trotter (LB) - He's old, but he's the heart and soul of their defense. Even with two bad knees, he still steps up and does exactly what they need.

Brian Dawkins (S) - The best Free Safety in the NFC.

Corey Simon (DT) - Great run stuffing DT who gives 110% every second of every play. He's quickly becoming one of the best DT's in the NFL today.

Jeffrey Lurie (Owner) - What a class act. If every NFL owner was like him, we wouldn't see many players hold out and complain about money because he won't tolerate that kind of insubordination. He honors his word, and is willing to bend over backwards to do things the right way to help the team win.

WEAKNESSES

Donovan McNabb (QB) - As talented as he is, he doesn't have enough to win the tough playoff games when under pressure.

Andy Reid (Head Coach) - I lost faith after his dismal coaching job in the last 5:50 of the Super Bowl. No Two Minute Offense, yet they're down by 10 points. Terrible clock management. He should know better.

Terrell Owens (WR) - Biggest pile of crap in the NFL, period. A true team cancer who will tear apart any franchise that he's a part of. And just a worthless human being despite his enigmatic talent.

Todd Pinkston (WR) - You can't count on him to make the tough catches across the middle. He alligator arms his catches because he's afraid of getting hurt.

Jon Runyan (OT) - Too old, too slow, hurt too often.


New York

STRENGTHS

Eli Manning (QB) - Yes he's young. But he's loaded with potential and raw talent. No one discount or overlook the "Manning Pedigree", either. He'll be a very successful QB in the NFL, and this season will see the beginnings of his ascention into the elite.

Tom Coughlin (Head Coach) - Love him or hate him, he's a great coach. No nonesense, and gets more out of his players then people think they're capable of giving.

Tiki Barber (RB) - The fumbleitis has subsided and he's finally living up to his hype.

Michael Strahan (DE) - He's old, but still one of the best pure pass rushers that we've seen in the last 10 years.

Chris Snee (OG) - A young stud who plays bigger than he is (and he's not a small man), and has a genuine mean streak.

Jeremy Shockey (TE) - Tons of potential, get receiving threat, and a powerful blocker.

WEAKNESSES

Tiki Barber (RB) - When is going to remember that he's Tiki Barber?

Jeremy Shockey (TE) - Loaded with talent, but a headcase in the making. Will be a team cancer if he doesn't mature.

Amani Toomer (WR) - Too old to be a major contributor at this stage in his career.

Plaxico Burress (WR) - All the physical tools, yet none of the hands. A "me first" player who has yet to live up to his hype and earn the right to talk such a great game. He can't put his stats where his mouth is.



Dallas

STRENGTHS

Bill Parcells (Head Coach) - Still has enough left in the tank to prove he's one of the best to have ever coached. Gets more out of his players than anyone thinks possible.

Jerry Jones (Owner) - A man willing to do whatever it takes to help his team win; even park his ego and his nosey power and control hungry ways to coexist with Bill Parcells. A class act who, despite his bad reputation, is well respected amongst all NFL brass.

Julius Jones (RB) - He's young, but proving himself as a perfect successor to Emmitt. Great ability, nice vision, and can cut on a dime. Very elusive.

Jason Witten (TE) - One of the best TE's in the NFL today. Improved his blocking skills from his rookie season, and looks to become one of the more dominant overall (blocking and catching) TE's that the NFL has seen since Jay Novacek or Todd Christensen.

Keyshawn Johnson (WR) - His numbers may not reflect it, but his presence and locker room voice speaks volumes. He's come a long way from being a greedy piece of trash.

Larry Allen - Best OG ever. Still plays with intensity. His skills have dimished some with age, but Parcells reignited that spark and fire that used to burn so brightly in his youth.

Roy Williams - Defensive captain, and a team leader. His coverage skills are marginal, but his passion is nonpareil.



WEAKNESSES

QB Position - Until Bledsoe or Henson prove otherwise, this is a weak spot for the Cowboys, and has been for the last 5 years.

Kurt Vollers/Torrin Tucker (RT) - These guys plain stink. The Cowboys' running game will take a hit until this area improves.

Terry Glenn (WR) - Talented yes, but terribly injury prone. At his age, it can be deadly (see last season).

WR Core - Very weak overall. Aging veterans and a lack of first round talent will hurt them until they improve this area. Jason Witten can't do everything in the passing game.

Free Safety (DEF) - Still a sore spot due to going into training camp without anyone as a potential starter. Can really hurt their secondary if not addressed.

Pass Rush (DEF) - Yes, they had a great draft. Yes, Ware, Spears and Burnett have potential. But, can you expect a high level of production from rookies playing in the 3-4?

Overall Defense (DEF) - This is a transition year and may come back to haunt the Cowboys, especially if they're involved in tight games.

Bill Parcells (Head Coach) - He can be too stubborn and bullheaded at times, and it cost the team a few games last year. Needs to park his pride a little bit and work on developing some of the younger players instead of filling the team with a bunch of aging veterans.


WOW thats great. Thanks
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Plan 9 - That was a great post, liked seeing guys in both strength and weakness. You are totally on the Ball about Bill and many of the others.

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plan9misfit wrote:
Redskins

STRENGTHS

Clinton Portis (RB) - He's the only player with any potential on the offensive side of the ball. Quick, agile, and just a dynamic playmaker.

Stingy run defense (DEF) - They can't score points, but they can stop others from scoring on them. Very similar to the Cowboys' defense in 2003.

WEAKNESSES

Overall offense (OFF) - Their passing game is anemic at best, with Patrick Ramsey being nothing shy of a punching bag. Joe Gibbs is too conservative in opening up the playbook and it hurts the team.

Pass rush (DEF) - They don't have any to speak of, and have to rely completely on stopping the run in order to stay in ballgames. Their lack of generating turnovers will hurt them because teams will adjust to their very basic defensive schemes.

Joe Gibbs (Head Coach) - His time has obviously come and gone. I don't think he has the edge needed to be a successful head coach in the NFL anymore due to being out of the game for so long.

Dan Snyder (Owner) - As long as he's in charge, the Redskins will always be in salary cap trouble, and he'll overpay over-the-hill veterans who can't contribute.

Sean Taylor (S) - Going to prison. Nuff said.

LaVar Arrington (LB) - The most overhyped player next to Michael Vick. He routinely misses his assignments and takes the wrong angles, thus killing the Redkins' run defense. They were lucky to have him on IR for most of last season.


Philadelphia


WEAKNESSES

Donovan McNabb (QB) - As talented as he is, he doesn't have enough to win the tough playoff games when under pressure.

Andy Reid (Head Coach) - I lost faith after his dismal coaching job in the last 5:50 of the Super Bowl. No Two Minute Offense, yet they're down by 10 points. Terrible clock management. He should know better.

Terrell Owens (WR) - Biggest pile of crap in the NFL, period. A true team cancer who will tear apart any franchise that he's a part of. And just a worthless human being despite his enigmatic talent.

Todd Pinkston (WR) - You can't count on him to make the tough catches across the middle. He alligator arms his catches because he's afraid of getting hurt.

Jon Runyan (OT) - Too old, too slow, hurt too often.





Good work with the lengthy analysis, but just a few points about the Skins and Eagles. I think your Giants analysis is right on (except you forgot to mention their glaring hole at DT) and I wouldn't attempt to lecture you on your own team.

I would disagree with placing McNabb in the weakness column. While he has lost in the playoffs several years in a row (a fact I revel in, I should add) his playoff record is still quite good, and his supporting cast has not been superb. He is the primary reason they have won any playoff games at all, so I suppose I wouldn't call him a weakness. And I also disagree with T.O. being placed only in the weakness category. He is, by nearly all accounts, one of the top 2 WRs in the league, and brings the team a sort of swagger and confidence it lacked previously. He took that offense up a little, and it's simply incorrect to label him solely a weakness. Oh, and "enigmatic talent"? In what way is his talent "enigmatic"? It seems pretty well-defined to me.


And so now on to the Redskins. The strengths you list are in fact strengths, but I feel I will have to take issue with several of your "weaknesses." I won't argue the "overall offense" as a weakness, since we were one of the most pitiful offenses in the league last year. I could make lots of assertions about how Gibbs has pledged to open up the playbook this year, and how the O-Line is revamped, and how our new WR corps brings a lot more speed and separation ability, but that is all just projection on my part. I don't have any facts to back that up.

Unfortunately, you are completely off base in your next two weaknesses. It is true that the Redskins get little to no rush from their 4 down linemen, but it is quite a leap (and a shockingly inaccurate one, at that) to claim that they get no pass rush. Then you take another hideously false step in labeling Gregg Williams's schemes basic. The Redskins were 9th in the league with 40.0 sacks, only one sack behind the Steelers, who I doubt anyone would argue is a team lacking a pass-rush. And GW's schemes are anything but basic; why do you think everyone made such a big deal out of Antonio Pierce? It certainly wasn't because of his physical tools...it was because he was intelligent enough to fully comprehend Williams's EXTREMELY COMPLEX schemes on short notice.

Also, you are way off the mark on that categorization of Gibbs. Obviously you are entitled to your opinion, but my own is that you are dead wrong. The man is a winner pure and simple. Do a little historical investigation and see how well he started in Washington the first year of his first tenure. You might find some parallels. He learned to adapt then, and he will do the same now. Trust me on that one. Good leaders of men remain good leaders of men (same goes for your coach, I should add).

Dan Snyder...ehhh who cares? I don't really like the guy, but he sure does try hard to win. And I think if you will look at last offseason and this one, you will find that a) he has been less of the driving force behind personnel moves and b) he's not overpaying for big names as much. And please don't say the name Mark Brunell in response that previous sentence. That was Gibbs, not Snyder.

Sean Taylor: not going to jail, the single most talented defensive player in the league. Nuff said.

Finally, it's sad for me to this, but you are right about LaVar to an extent. He does make too many mistakes, and is overzealous in pursuit at times, to say the least. Obviously I won't agree about us "being lucky to have him on IR for most of last season" but he isn't the elite player most make him out to be. Yet. Maybe with some continuity in scheme he'll develop. But I don't know whether he will or won't.

To sum up, very good job and good depth of analysis. Just figured I would give some tips about the Skins. Oh, and since I shot down many of your weaknesses, here are a few: The MLB position, no size in the WR corps, and redzone offense.
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Sean Taylor single most talented defensive player in the league? like you said you are entitled to your opinion and so am i...and my opinion is you are DEAD WRONG there is no way he is better than Roy Williams ed reed or brian dawkins maybe one of the better younger safeties but saying hes the best is stretching it to say the least.
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Actually, I agree with him. He's not saying Sean Taylor's the best defensive player in the league, he's just saying he's the most talented, and I think he's right.
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While I do agree that Gregg Williams is known for complex defensive schemes, he didn't run anything remotely close to what had been seen from him in the past. Washington's defense was predictable, and lacked a killer instinct, but they were solid at holding teams to low scores. Again, teams will exploit their shortcomings, especially since they didn't address their needs at DE to develop a more consistent pass rush.

Now that teams know they can hang in the pocket, a QB can just wait for a WR to get open, and beat the Skins' DB's deep.

I have no clue where you think your WR's improved this season. Santana Moss is as inconsistent as the day is long, and David Patten is nothing more than a #2 WR at best. He's better than what you had, but nothing to get elated over.

My assessment of Gibbs is quite accurrate. He will open the playbook more this year, but 13 years out of football is too much of a lapse. The guy lost his pulse on the game and may never be able to get it back. You should stop living on his glory from the past and examine what he is now as a head coach.

And I'm not going to comment on Sean Taylor. The guy is going to prison. His numerous run-ins with the law will count against him in court. And since he refused a plea bargain, this will go to trial. All the prosecution has to do is highlight his previous breakings of the law, their increases in severity, and then focus on the newest reason for his being in court. The guy is screwed. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

You're right about my leaving out the Giants' need at DT, but I wasn't going to pick apart every nook and cranny from all of the NFC East teams. It would've taken me all night.

And Donovan McNabb ABSOLUTELY belongs in both the Strengths and Weaknesses column. While he is their biggest talent, he's also their biggest liability. His lack of wherewithall is continually exploited in the playoffs regardless of his supporting cast. If they were good enough to get that deep into the playoffs. then they should be good enough to finish them.

The fact is, McNabb chokes while under pressure. He had some amazing stats in the Super Bowl, yet was too stupid to call an audible and run a two minute offense with 5:50 left in the 4th Quarter while down by 10 points. He should have enough experience by now to know that he couldn't run a regular offense due to time restraints, and should've proven himself as a team leader and done what needed to be done: go over Andy Reid's head and call the plays himself.

It's that lack of leadership ability that makes him a liability, for he'll never be able to win anything because he'll never step up and carry the team on his shoulders, make the necessary sacrifices, and adjustment the playcalling to win. He plays in a system, follows that system, and will not deviate from said system, even when a game is on the line and that offense won't help the team win.
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Sean Taylor has immense talent, but he's not the most talented defensive player in the league, that's a ridiculous statement. He's not even the most talented guy at his position. I don't think there is a single person who is not a Redskins fan that would choose him over Ed Reed.
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Texas Ace wrote:
Sean Taylor has immense talent, but he's not the most talented defensive player in the league, that's a ridiculous statement. He's not even the most talented guy at his position. I don't think there is a single person who is not a Redskins fan that would choose him over Ed Reed.


I believe droopedupmofo just chose him over Ed Reed. And he, if I'm not mistaken, is a Cowboys fan. And yes, I will stand by that. Taylor is the most talented defensive player in the league, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is the best defensive player in the league, or even best safety. Talent, in my opinion anyway, is somewhat synonymous with potential, and really hasn't got much to do with polish or actual play on the field. With his absolutely unparalleled blend of size, speed, and instincts, Taylor is the most talented player. No player matches that, except perhaps Arrington. They both are idiots, however, and that is why they aren't the best PLAYERS in the league. Please don't confuse talent with performance.

And plan9, I'm afraid you're a bit off in your analysis of Taylor's legal status. Under no circumstances would he have pled by now, so your assumption that "this will go to trial" is well off-base. He just had his arraignment. Most normal people don't even have lawyers at this point. His plea wouldn't be entered until the trial at the very earliest (Sept 12, but it will be postponed several times IMHO).

I actually do agree with several of your points, particularly about McNabb and our WRs. I don't believe that they are better players, just that they fit better within the framework of Gibbs's offense. I don't know if you remember the Smurfs, but they were pretty important to Gibbs's success.

It's fine that you disagree about Gibbs; in fact I'm quite sure you are amongst the majority in your belief. But I fear you will be amongst a majority who slept on one of the 5 best coaches in NFL history and will feel a bit foolish about it afterward. Just my opinion obviously, but I'm one of these folks who doesn't think football itself has changed so much in the past decade or so that one of the best football minds to ever walk the planet can no longer recognize how it works. Oh, and by all means let Bledsoe "hang in the pocket and wait" while facing Gregg Williams's defense. Please inform Parcells of that strategy, because I can tell you as a fan who saw every Redskins snap last year, the only teams with possibly a more complex and more aggressive defensive system were the Steelers and Patriots.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=fanball-redskinstaylorreject&prov=fanball&type=lgns


Read that.


Sean Taylor is definitely going to prison. He's such a dunce...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldnt agree more with Plan9 in almost every assessment. I think I would have explained a couple of things differently regarding Washington's defense. Strengths and weeknesses can be inseperably connected. Washington's defensive strength is also their greatest liability. Their greatest strength last year was their blitz packages. Washington's greatest liability on defense was they absolutely had to blitz to get any pressure on the opposing qb. Washington had 40 sacks. We would have been thrilled to have had 40 sacks last year. But, when Shawn Springs, a cb, leads your team in sacks... you've got a problem.

In the NFL, blitzing is a liability (in making this statement, I'm not including sending 1 lb in 3-4 defenses). Bill Parcells has said it many times... You live by the blitz and you die by the blitz. In the 90s, Dallas offense begged teams to blitz. In training camp in 2003, Bill Parcells gave a speech to the offense saying that one day they will pray for opposing teams to blitz. The fact that Washington has to send the kitchen sink to get pressure on opposing qb's is a liability. Blitzing can masquerade shortcomings on defense, but great offenses will eventually destroy blitz happy teams.

While Washington statistically had a very good defense last year, keep in mind that their offense was pitiful (no offense Redskin fan, but you know its true). Here, my point is that opposing teams never really had to open up their offense to beat the Redskins because the Redskins couldnt score points. Opposing offenses could play conservative and still win the game as Washington would have a hard time putting up points against Our Lady of the Worthless Miracle.

Finally, about S Taylor. Redskin fan is talking through his @ss (again no offense). Its almost comical to hear people talk about legal matters when they have no clue. First of all, in criminal cases, defendants have an attorney from the second they invoke Miranda. Once an alleged criminal invokes his Miranda rights, the state must provide an attorney (hence the warning... if you cannot afford an attorney one will be provided to you). That's right, criminals have an attorney almost from the second they are caught. Criminals are always represented by counsel at arraignments. Always. By pleading not guilty at an arraignment, an alleged criminal who is later found guilty loses leniency with the court (by pleading not guitly the state is forced to spend time and tax payer money prosecute the case... something the state would not have to do if the criminal came correct at the arraignment). This is extremely important and not lightly regarded by defense attorneys.

Here is the thing that should terrify Redskin fans... the plea bargain included three years in prison. This means that the state feels so strongly about its case they are insisting on jail time in a plea bargain! In other words, the state is not dropping its charges to a misdemeanor
"disruption of the peace" charge, $1,000 fine, and 40 hours community service and 6 months probation. Their plea bargain was 3 years in prison. Ouch.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Slamman wrote:

In the NFL, blitzing is a liability (in making this statement, I'm not including sending 1 lb in 3-4 defenses).

Not that this question has anything to do with the topic at hand but isn`t the definition of a blitz when you send 2 or more guys that wouldn`t normally be rushing the passer and only sending one extra person called dogging?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would venture to say that the Redskins are a weakness overall as an organization.

All the strengths we thought they had or ever will have eventually get torn away to pieces. For example, Joe Gibbs: possibly their best coach of all time comes back as the "savior" and they learn that his time is long gone as a great head coach and ruin his legacy. Number 2 example, Sean Taylor, although I wouldn't blame this entirely on the organization, but they draft supposedly "THE MOST TALENTED DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE LEAGUE" and he ends up screwing any chance he had of a amounting a tremendous career by stupidity. Then, you have Dan Snyder and the front office, when you have Patrick Ramsey, a first round QB draft pick from a couple years ago and you have to draft another QB this year in the first round, I would have to call that stupid. The defense which they ecstatically salute as a building block to a great team, all orchestrated by a supposed MASTERMIND in Greg Williams, all that to now find out that the secondary is diminished by releases and convictions. My final example as to why this organization is a weakness overall, or those who run it, rather: The Moss-Coles trade. Yeah, you try and mix it up, by getting a player less talented then the one you traded.

P.S. Clinton Portis for Champ Bailey. Perhaps one of the stupidest deals on the Redskins part as an organization. Yeah, you thought you were getting one of the best running backs in the league. But, come on, by now you should learn that CHRIS BERMAN could rush for over a 1,000 in their system. Besides, for Joe Gibbs' type of play, Clinton doesn't fit. And, when you thought you could rely on a good secondary, you realize you lost the best shut down corner in the league for that stupid deal.

As I have said before, and will continue to say: Dan Snyder and whoever the hell else run that front office.... They never fail to amaze me. I can't wait for what I see next.


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