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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Official Seattle Mariners Thread Reply with quote



Seattle Mariners.com
MLB.com

Roster: [Updated 13/07/09]
Pitching:

SP1 Felix Hernandez
Number: 34
Height: 6'3
Weight: 225
Throws: Right
Born: 04/08/1986
Birthplace: Valencia, Venezuela



SP2 Erik Bedard
Number: 45
Height: 6'1
Weight: 200
Throws: Left
Born: 03/05/1979
Birthplace: Navan, ON Canada



SP3 Jarrod Washburn
Number: 56
Height: 6'1
Weight: 195
Throws: Left
Born: 08/13/1974
Birthplace: La Crosse, WI



SP4 Jason Vargas
Number: 38
Height: 6'0
Weight: 215
Throws: Left
Born: 02/02/83
Birthplace: Apple Valley, CA



SP5 Garrett Olson
Number: 49
Height: 6'1
Weight: 205
Throws: Left
Born: 10/18/83
Birthplace: Fresno, CA



CL David Aardsma
Number: 53
Height: 6'4
Weight: 205
Throws: Right
Born: 12/27/1981
Birthplace: Denver, COL


Lineup:

C Rob Johnson
Number: 32
Height: 6'1
Weight: 215
Bats: Right
Born: 07/22/1982
Birthplace: Butte, MT



1B Russell Branyan
Number: 30
Height: 6'3
Weight: 230
Bats: Left
Born: 12/19/1975
Birthplace: Warner Robins, GA



2B Jose Lopez
Number: 4
Height: 6'0
Weight: 205
Bats: Right
Born: 11/24/1983
Birthplace: Anzoategui, Venezuela



SS Ronny Cedeno
Number: 3
Height: 6'0
Weight: 180
Bats: Right
Born: 02/02/1983
Birthplace: Carabobo, Venezuela



3B Jack Hannahan
Number: 7
Height: 6'2
Weight: 210
Bats: Left
Born: 3/4/1980
Birthplace: St. Paul, MN



LF Ryan Langerhans
Number: 12
Height: 6'3
Weight: 220
Bats: Left
Born: 2/20/1980
Birthplace: San Antonio, TX



CF Franklin Gutuerrez
Number: 21
Height: 6'2
Weight: 190
Bats: Right
Born: 02/21/1983
Birthplace: Caracas, Venezuela



RF Ichiro Suzuki
Number: 51
Height: 5'11
Weight: 170
Bats: Left
Born: 10/22/1973
Birthplace: Kasugai, Japan



DH Ken Griffey Jr
Number: 24
Height: 6'3
Weight: 230
Bats: Left
Born: 11/21/1969
Birthplace: Donora, PA


Bench:

C Kenji Johjima
Number: 2
Height: 6'0
Weight: 205
Bats: Right
Born: 06/08/1976
Birthplace: Sasebo, Japan



1B/3B Chris Shelton
Number: 13
Height: 6'0
Weight: 215
Bats: R
Born: 6/26/1980
Birthplace: Salt Lake City, UT



3B Josh Wilson
Number: 16
Height: 6'0
Weight: 175
Bats: R
Born: 3/26/1981
Birthplace: Pittsburgh, PA



3B/2B Chris Woodward
Number: 6
Height: 6'0
Weight: 190
Bats:
Born:
Birthplace:



LF Wladimir Balentien
Number: 25
Height: 6'2
Weight: 220
Bats: Right
Born: 07/02/1984
Birthplace: Willemstad, Netherlands


Disabled List:

SP Carlos Silva [15 Day DL; Shoulder]
Number: 52
Height: 6'4
Weight: 250
Throws: Right
Born: 04/23/1979
Birthplace: Bolivar, Venezuela



1B/DH Mike Sweeney [15 Day DL; Back]
Number: 5
Height: 6'3
Weight: 225
Bats: Right
Born: 07/22/1973
Birthplace: Orange, CA



3B Adrian Beltre [15 Day DL; Shoulder]
Number: 29
Height: 5'11
Weight: 220
Bats: Right
Born: 04/07/1979
Birthplace: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic



LF Endy Chavez [Out For The Season; Knee]
Number: 10
Height: 6'0
Weight: 170
Bats: Left
Born: 02/07/1978
Birthplace: Valencia, Venezuela


Notable Players In The Minors:

SP Brandon Morrow
Number: 35
Height: 6'3
Weight: 195
Throws: Right
Born: 07/26/1984
Birthplace: Santa Rosa, CA



SP Ryan Rowland-Smith
Number: 18
Height: 6'3
Weight: 240
Throws: Left
Born: 01/26/1983
Birthplace: Sydney, Australia



C/1B Jeff Clement
Number: 9
Height: 6'1
Weight: 215
Bats: Left
Born: 8/21/1983
Birthplace: Marshalltown, IA

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Mariners Top 20 Prospects: [UPDATED:07/18/09]


1. Dustin Ackley
Position: CF
Height: 6'1
Weight: 185
Bats/Throws: L/R
Date Of Birth: 02/26/1988
Drafted: 2009 1st Round Selection
Team Affiliate: N/A
ETA: 2010


Comparison: CF Grazy Sizemore, Cleveland Indians

My Stat Projections: .320 AVG / .410 OBP / .520 SLG% / .930 OPS / 25 HR / 25 SB

Scouting Report:
MLB.com wrote:
Hitting ability: Ackley is one of the best pure hitters in college, with great bat control and plus bat speed. He stays in the zone a long time, hits the ball where it's pitched and stays back on soft stuff.
Power: There's a debate over how much power he will have. He should run into some home runs and might have average power as a pro.
Running speed: He's a plus runner and is almost deceptive with a nice, easy stride.
Base running: He is an excellent baserunner.
Arm strength: After Tommy John surgery, his arm is OK, though he doesn't use it at first base like he would in the outfield.
Fielding: He catches the ball, but he's not a great first baseman. He has the chance to be a plus center fielder.
Range: His speed would give him good range in the outfield; it's not applicable to his play at first.
Physical Description: Ackley isn't the biggest guy in the world. He has small shoulders and isn't physically imposing.
Medical Update: He had Tommy John surgery over the summer. His elbow is fine now, but he's been almost completely limited to playing first instead of center.
Strengths: Plus, plus hittability with great bat control and bat speed. He's got plus speed as well.
Weaknesses: There's a question as to how much power he'll have. Because of the surgery, he hasn't been seen at his better position, center, by scouts.
Summary: Ackley might be the best pure hitter in the college ranks, if not the entire Draft class. He's got great bat control and plus bat speed that allows him to make consistent contact to all fields. There's some debate about how much power he'll have, but that's really only an issue if he can't return to center field. He's had to play first since Tommy John surgery last summer. But regardless of where he plays, those hitting skills should get him off the board early.


2. Michael Saunders
Position: LF
Height: 6'4
Weight: 205
Bats/Throws: L/R
Date Of Birth: 11/19/1986
Drafted: 2004 11th Round Selection
Team Affiliate: AAA Tacoma Rainers
ETA: 2009


Comparison: RF Corey Hart, Milwaukee Brewers

My Stat Projections: .280 AVG / .360 OBP / .470 SLG% / .830 OPS / 20 HR / 20 SB

Scouting Report:
Scouting Book wrote:
A tall, sturdy Canadian, Saunders was a five-sport athlete in childhood and is a legitimate five-tool talent in the Seattle outfield. A natural center fielder with 20 home run potential and plus speed, he even touched 92mph as a sometime pitcher in high school. He'll be pushed fast, like all Seattle prospects seem to be, but unlike some that have fallen by the wayside, Saunders can probably handle the pressure and workload. He'll be fighting for an outfield spot in 2009's preseason, and could win the job outright by 2010.


3. Carlos Triunfel
Position: SS
Height: 5'11
Weight: 175
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 02/27/1990
Drafted: N/A
Team Affiliate: AA West Tenn Diamond Jaxx
ETA: 2011


Comparison: SS Jimmy Rollins, Philadelphia Phillies

My Stat Projections: .300 AVG / .350 OBP / .480 SLG% / .830 OPS / 15 HR / 40 SB

Scouting Report:
MLB.com wrote:
Statistically Speaking: It can be forgiven that it took Triunfel, who's just 18 years old, time to figure things out in the California League. He hit .233 with a .594 OPS in the first half of the season. Then things clicked, with some renewed focus, and Triunfel hit .335 in the second half with an .873 OPS.
Scouting Report: A young, exciting, high-ceiling player, he's very instinctual on field with the ability to hit for average and power in the future. He has one of the best arms in baseball, Minors or Majors, with the ability to fill three positions -- shortstop, third, second -- in the infield. He'll have to watch his conditioning and may end up being too big to stay at short, though some think he'll be just fine there.
Upside potential: Depending on who you talk to, an everyday shortstop with a cannon arm or a third baseman or perhaps a second baseman. If everything clicks, he should hit for average and power.


4. Greg Halman
Position: CF
Height: 6'4
Weight: 190
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 08/26/1987
Drafted: N/A
Team Affiliate: AA West Tenn Diamond Jaxx
ETA: 2011


Comparison: CF Chris Young, Arizona Diamondbacks

My Stat Projections: .240 AVG / .290 OBP / .460 SLG% / .750 OPS / 30 HR / 15 SB

Scouting Report:
Prospect Insider wrote:
Hitting for Power: Halman is not unlike Matt Tuiasosopo in many ways, including the raw power that each possess. The differences include Halman’s slightly superior ability to pull the ball regularly, as well as an advantage in bat speed. He does get tied up inside enough to suggest he has work to do in this area, but after a year and a half in the states, he’s making satisfactory progress in developing his swing and putting an aggressive yet disciplined swing on every pitch.
Grade: 55/65
Baserunning: Halman is a decent decision maker on the bases, but needs the experience to polish his abilities. With above-average speed, Halman is capable of swiping 10-15 bases a year, but more coaching is necessary.
Grade: 45/50
Glove: With solid natural instincts and plus physical tools, Halman is a nice fit in center field – for now. He’s likely to slide to right field at some point in his ascent to the big leagues, and that could take place as early as this season. Halman gets decent jumps on liners and fly balls but needs to take better routes, something he’ll develop with more time on the field. But if his future is truly in right field, the sooner he’s moved, the sooner he’ll adapt and be able to concentrate solely on improving what will ultimately get him to the majors.
Arm: Halman has a plus throwing arm, but his accuracy is merely average at this point. Once he learns when to try and make the big throw and when to simply hit the cut-off man, his arm will turn into a defensive weapon.
Grade: 55/65


5. Tyson Gilles
Position: CF
Height: 6'2
Weight: 190
Bats/Throws: L/R
Date Of Birth: 10/31/1988
Drafted: 2006 25th Round Pick
Team Affiliate: A High Desert Mavericks
ETA: 2011


Comparison: LF Carl Crawford, Tampa Bay Rays

My Stat Projections: .290 AVG / .380 OBP / .410 SLG% / .790 OPS / 10 HR / 60 SB

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Tyson Gillies is a great story, as he’s had a successful pro career despite severe hearing impairment. He’s another High Desert player who’s hit better away from the home bandbox, with a .347/.463/.479 road line. Gillies is a speed player who works a lot of walks (39/46 BB/K). He is a Gold Glove-caliber CF, and scouts compare his range and arm to Torii Hunter’s. He profiles as a .290/.390/.410 player with great defense and speed.


6. Phillipe Aumont
Position: SP/RP
Height: 6'7
Weight: 220
Bats/Throws: L/R
Date Of Birth: 01/07/1989
Drafted: 2007 1st Round Selection
Team Affiliate: AA West Tenn Diamond Jaxx
ETA: 2010


Comparison: SP Brandon Webb, Arizona Diamondbacks

My Stat Projections: 190 IP / 12 W / 180 K / 55 BB / 3.60 ERA (Top of the Rotation Potential)

Scouting Report:
Quote:
The 6’7", 220-pounder has the stuff and durability to start, yet the Mariners moved the French-Canadian to the bullpen to begin his second pro season.
Aumont throws two fastballs, a mid-90s four-seamer he throws to get strikeouts up in the zone, and a low-90s sinker that he uses to get grounders down in the zone. The latter is Aumont’s best pitch.
Aumont throws a sweepy curveball in the low 80s that should be an average pitch once he gets used to throwing it. He also has an average splitter. His changeup is well below average, although he won’t really use it in the bullpen.
The 20-year-old Aumont is already in Double-A and could get a big league look as early as next April out of the ‘pen. He’ll be a very good reliever who can also start effectively.


7. Michael Pineda
Position: SP
Height: 6'5
Weight: 180
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 01/18/1989
Drafted: N/A
Team Affiliate: A High Desert Mavericks
ETA: 2010


Comparison: SP James Shields, Tampa Bay Rays

My Stat Projections: 210 IP / 15 W / 180 K / 30 BB / 3.20 ERA (Top of the Rotation Potential)

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Michael Pineda is a 6’5” right-hander who throws strikes and has left A-ball hitters shaking their heads the past two years. Currently on the DL, the righty will be able to go to Double-A once he’s healthy, and he’s only 20.
Pineda throws strikes with a low-90s fastball with a lot of run and sink and works in a plus changeup. He gets a lot of deception from an unorthodox arm action. The arm action concerns scouts, who say it’s tough to throw strikes with it, but Pineda has excellent command anyway.
Pineda’s slider isn’t very good, and he might want to try adding a curve, which would more naturally match his height and arm slot. If he can’t develop a breaking ball, he’ll be a No. 3 or No. 4 starter or setup reliever. If he can come up with a curve or improve the slider, however, Pineda could be an ace in the Roy Halladay mold (perhaps with less durability).


8. Adam Moore
Position: C
Height: 6'3
Weight: 220
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 05/08/1984
Drafted/Signed: 2006 6th Round Selection
Team Affiliate: AAA Tacoma Rainers
ETA: 2009


Comparison: C Mike Napoli, Los Angeles Angels

My Stat Projections: .290 AVG / .350 OBP / .490 SLG% / .840 OPS / 10 HR / 0 SB

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Adam Moore is one of the most underrated prospects in the game. The 25-year-old is hitting .311/.355/.447 in Triple-A, including a whopping .375/.429/.531 against left-handers. The big Texan has more power than his .136 ISO shows. Moore’s defensive reputation is slightly better than Clement’s. The two wouldn’t be great defensively in a platoon, but could combine to produce some ridiculous numbers in Seattle.


9. Mike Carp
Position: 1B
Height: 6'2
Weight: 215
Bats/Throws: L/R
Date Of Birth: 06/30/1986
Drafted: 2004 9th Round Selection (NYM)
Team Affiliate: AAA Tacoma Rainers
ETA: 2009


Comparison: 1B Casey Kotchman, Atlanta Braves

My Stat Projections: .280 AVG / .380 OBP / .470 SLG% / .850 OPS / 15 HR / 0 SB

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Hitting: Uses an open stance at the plate. Has a good disciplined approach at the plate for a young hitter. Has excellent line drive/gap power right now. May become a consistent .300 hitter as he develops because of his patience and ability. Scouts compare him to Darin Erstad or Mark Grace at this point in his career.
Running: Is an intelligent player so that helps him on the base paths in making decisions. Does not have good speed however. If he makes a play on the base paths its probably going to be because he made a smart decision.
Defense: Steady defensively right now. He won‘t amaze you defensively but he won‘t hurt his team defensively either. Shouldn‘t ever need to be moved from firstbase because of defensive issues.


10. Joshua Fields
Position: RP
Height: 6'0
Weight: 185
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 08/19/1985
Drafted: 2008 1st Round Selection
Team Affiliate: AA West Tenn Diamond Jaxx
ETA: 2010


Comparison: CL Tom Gordon, BOS/CHC/PHI

My Stat Projections: 70 IP / 35 SV / 85 K / 35 BB / 3.70 ERA (Elite Closer Potential)

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Josh Fields, the Mariners’ first-rounder last year, is a two-pitch reliever who could usurp David Aardsma’s closer job in September. Fields is actually a smaller version of Aardsma: he throws a mid-90s heater and killer curveball, but command issues keep him from being elite.

Fields, unlike Aardsma, is not in his prime, and could potentially improve his control. An Aardsma-like career is the worst scenario; Fields could be the next Tom Gordon with his small build and deadly fastball-curve combo.


11. Ezequiel Carrera
Position: CF
Height: 5'11
Weight: 175
Bats/Throws: L/L
Date Of Birth:06/11/1987
Drafted: N/A
Team Affiliate: AA West Tenn Diamond Jaxx
ETA: 2010


Comparison: LF Juan Pierre, Los Angeles Dodgers

My Stat Projections: .300 AVG / .390 OBP / .420 SLG% / .810 OPS / 5 HR / 30 SB

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Ezequiel Carrera is great insurance in case Halman doesn’t pan out. He just turned 22 and is hitting a whopping .354/.473/.433 in Double-A. Carrera is the rare speed player who is able to work a lot of walks and be constantly on base, making him an ideal leadoff man. He also rarely strikes out (37/30 BB/K ratio). Carrera has good speed (16 steals) and an average center field glove. He projects to be a .300/.390/.380 center fielder with 25+ steals and average defense.


12. Dan Cortes
Position: SP
Height: 6'6
Weight: 215
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 03/04/1987
Drafted: 2005 5th Round Selection (CWS)
Team Affiliate: AA West Tenn Diamond Jaxx
ETA: 2010


Comparison: SP Gil Meche, Kansas City Royals

My Stat Projections: 190 IP / 10 W / 150 K / 65 BB / 4.10 ERA (Mid-Rotation Potential)

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Cortes has one of the better one-two punches in the minor leagues with his strong fastball and curve ball combination. His fastball regularly registers in the 92-95 MPH range, while touching 96 or 97 on occasion when he needs it. The curveball is sharp and registers in the high-70's, and it is a legitimate strikeout pitch for him. Cortes still needs to continue to develop his changeup a little more as a weapon against left-handed hitters, but it is coming around. There is occasional feel for the pitch and every so often you can see that good changeup, it's just not consistent enough yet. Command of the fastball needs work too, as he needs to work on keeping it down in the zone or it's going to fly a long ways against MLB caliber hitters.


13. Alex Liddi
Position: 3B
Height: 6'4
Weight: 176
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 08/14/1988
Drafted: N/A
Team Affiliate: A High Desert Mavericks
ETA: 2010


Comparison: 3B Troy Glaus, St. Louis Cardinals

My Stat Projections: .270 AVG / .380 OBP / .490 SLG% / .870 OPS / 25 HR / 10 SB

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Alex Liddi, one of a very small contingent of Italian minor leaguers (to my knowledge, there’s only one other one, but there could be more from the last year or two), was thought of as a C-grade prospect entering the year, but the 20-year-old third baseman has rocketed up prospect lists thanks to a .346/.399/.650 line at High Desert.
Liddi has gotten benefits from his home park, but his road numbers (.301/.338/.507) are still very good, especially when you consider that he’s young for the level. Liddi’s slight (6’4” 176) frame has plenty of room for him to fill out, meaning he’ll probably hit for even more power as he physically matures.
Defensively, the third baseman is a work in progress. He’s got a great arm, but struggles with reactions and range. A hard worker, Liddi should eventually become average defensively.


14. Juan Ramirez
Position: SP
Height: 6'3
Weight: 175
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 08/16/1988
Drafted: N/A
Team Affiliate: A High Desert Mavericks
ETA: 2011


Comparison: SP Jair Jurrjens, Atlanta Braves

My Stat Projections: 200 IP / 10 W / 150 K / 55 BB / 4.10 ERA

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Juan Ramirez is thought to be one of the Mariners’ top prospects, but I’m not really sold. Yes, he pitches in a hitter’s haven in High Desert, and yes, his road ERA (3.34) is over two runs lower than his home ERA (5.4Cool.
However, that road performance comes with a terrible 14/15 K/BB ratio, and his rather low strikeout rate (58 in 80 innings) does little to inspire confidence.
When someone has Ramirez’s good stuff (92-94 mph fastball, hard mid-80s slider), and they can’t get High-A hitters to swing and miss, there’s a fundamental disconnect going on. I understand Ramirez is only 20, and his stuff is certainly big-league caliber, but the lack of strikeouts is a big red flag.
Ramirez’s changeup needs a ton of work if he’s going to start in the majors. He, not Phillippe Aumont, should be the one moving to the ‘pen: a move would get his fastball into the 97 range, keep him from needing the changeup, and likely increase the strikeouts.


15. Nathan Adcock
Position: SP
Height: 6'5
Weight: 190
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 02/25/1988
Drafted: 2006 5th Round Pick
Team Affiliate: A High Desert Mavericks
ETA: 2011


Comparison: SP Chris Volstad, Florida Marlins

My Stat Projections: 210 IP / 15 W / 150 K / 60 BB / 3.90 ERA (Mid-Rotation Potential)

Scouting Report:
Quote:
He throws what Baseball America calls “the best breaking ball in the system,” a hard, mid-70s curve. The 6’5” righty pitches at 88-94 with his fastball and projects to touch 96-97 as he fills out. For a High-A pitcher, his changeup’s not bad.
Adcock is only 21, and he’s pitching well in the Cal League. However, he comes with the same big problem as Ramirez: he’s only struck out 58 batters in 83.3 innings. When you can’t miss bats in High-A, you don’t project to in the majors.
Adcock’s fastball-curve combo may lead him to the bullpen, where he could become a plus reliever. If he can’t strike more hitters out, it’s unlikely he’ll have much of a career, but he has the stuff and command to succeed.


16. Richard Poythress
Position: DH/1B
Height: 6'4
Weight: 245
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 08/11/1988
Drafted: 2009 2nd Round Selection
Team Affiliate: N/A
ETA: 2011


Comparison: 1B/OF Adam Dunn, Washington Nationals

My Stat Projections: .260 AVG / .390 OBP / .530 SLG% / .920 OPS / 40 HR / 0 SB

Scouting Report:
MLB.com wrote:
Hitting ability: Poythress has average bat speed with more of a strength-generated swing.
Power: His standout tool -- he's got tremendous raw power and can hit it out to any part of the park.
Running speed: Has below-average speed.
Base running: It's not a part of his game.
Arm strength: He has a fringy-average arm.
Fielding: He's adequate, at best, at first.
Range: Has one-step range and will be limited to first base only.
Physical Description: Poythress is a big-bodied guy, like a Ryan Shealy or a Matt LeCroy.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: Big-time power.
Weaknesses: Power is his only tool. He's a limited-range first baseman who doesn't have great bat speed.
Summary: There's no question some teams will be intrigued by the monster numbers Poythress is putting up in the competitive SEC. Power is his calling card, but with a lack of great bat speed, there is some question how well it will play at the next level. There's no other part of his game that stands out, so someone will have to believe in his power to take him.


17. Mario Martinez
Position: 3B
Height: 6'1
Weight: 208
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 11/13/1989
Drafted: N/A
Team Affiliate: A Everett AquaSox
ETA: 2012


Comparison: 3B Edwin Encarnacion, Cincinnati Reds

My Stat Projections: .270 AVG / .360 OBP / .440 SLG% / .800 OPS / 15 HR / 0 SB

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Already looking like a good hitter and most think he’ll develop some decent power as well. Struggling defensively at third base since moving over from shortstop, but he’s still very green. He could move very quickly up or down depending on how he does in A-ball.



18. Jharmidy DeJesus
Position: 3B/1B
Height: 6'3
Weight: 185
Bats/Throws: R/R
Date Of Birth: 08/30/1989
Drafted: N/A
Team Affiliate: R Pulaski Mariners
ETA: 2012


Comparison: 3B Adrian Beltre, Seattle Mariners

My Stat Projections: .270 AVG / .330 OBP / .440 SLG% / .770 OPS / 20 HR / 10 SB

Scouting Report:
Quote:
An imposing physical presence, DeJesus has great pull power for someone his age. He won’t evoke Adrian Beltre defensively, but he should be average at third. Like many players from the Dominican, DeJesus doesn’t know how to recognize or lay off a breaking ball, and struggles to take outside pitches the other way.
DeJesus will need to make several adjustments to his approach and add a lot of polish to his game to succeed in the majors, but his offensive ceiling is similar to Beltre’s (minus Beltre’s one ridiculous year).


19. Juan Diaz
Position: SS/2B
Height: 6'3
Weight: 180
Bats/Throws: S/R
Date Of Birth: 12/12/1988
Drafted: N/A
Team Affiliate: A High Desert Mavericks
ETA: 2011


Comparison: 2B Orlando Hudson, Los Angeles Dodgers

My Stat Projections: .280 AVG / .360 OBP / .390 SLG% / .750 OPS / 8 HR / 15 SB

Scouting Report:
Quote:
Juan Diaz is also experiencing a High Desert breakout; however, he’s hitting better on the road (.336/.381/.520) than at home (.309/.356/.409).
Diaz is the youngest of the three High Desert prospect infielders (he’ll play the whole year at 20), and while he has the worst raw numbers, he has the best road line and plays the most difficult position (shortstop) among the three.
Diaz is known as an excellent defender at short, and if this road line is for real, he’ll be the Mariners’ long-term answer at short.


20. Brett Lorin
Position: SP
Height: 6'7
Weight: 245
Bats/Throws: L/R
Date Of Birth: 03/31/1987
Drafted: 2008 5th Round Selection
Team Affiliate: A Clinton LumberKings
ETA: 2011


Comparison: SP/RP Sean Marshall, Chicago Cubs

My Stat Projections: 110 IP / 5 W / 80 K / 30 BB / 4.50 ERA (Bottom of the Rotation/Reliever Potential)

Scouting Report:
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Brett Lorin has dominated the Midwest League in his first full pro season. Another gigantic righty (6’7”, 245), Lorin, like Pineda and Fister, isn’t a reckless power pitcher, but has plenty of velocity, throwing 89-93 mph. His hard curveball ranks as one of the best in the system, and is a big reason why Lorin has struck out over a batter an inning this year.
Lorin has good control, and while he’s a bit of a flyballer, that should work fine in spacious Safeco Field. His changeup isn’t very good yet, but he’s working on it and it should become average in the end.
At 22, Lorin is a bit old for Low-A, but with two plus pitches, good command, and a big, imposing mound presence, he should at least be a quality reliever.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if the Bedard thing comes through, our pitching staff will look pretty darn good.

Bedard
Felix
Washburn
Silva
Batista

Marrow, Green, O'Flarrety, Huber, Putz out of the bullpen. Maybe Baek too can be the long relief guy.

Geoff Baker the Times blogger said he heard the M's have a Brad Wilkerson 1yr deal in the pocket pending the Bedard deal. Im not sold on Wilkerson and his strikeouts. With him and Richie Sexon in the lineup, thats alot of whiffs. I would like Shannon Stewert alot more. he could fit nicely in that number 2 role (much better than Beltre). I guess Bavasi likes him more becuase of his ability to also plat 1B along with RF.

***I have heard Jason Bay is availbe. That would be a nice addition, but prolly a very slim chance on happening. ***
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an update on the Bedard situation......

Source: Angelos yet to greenlight proposed Bedard trade

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Orioles owner Peter Angelos hasn't yet signed off on the proposed deal that would send Erik Bedard to Seattle, according to a source familiar with the Orioles' internal discussions.


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The same source also indicated that Angelos wasn't informed of the particulars of this latest proposal until late Sunday and that he won't be available Monday to confer with the Orioles' baseball officials because of a personal matter.

Given Angelos' long history of vetoing trades, one baseball man who has dealt extensively with Angelos predicted that "this could get more interesting as it goes along" if Angelos has yet to approve this deal.


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Indications are that the trade is still likely to happen, given the abrupt departure of its centerpiece, Mariners outfielder Adam Jones, from winter ball. But the source confirmed a Baltimore Sun report that Jones isn't currently scheduled to fly to Baltimore for a physical.

[quote="animaltested"]So if the Bedard thing comes through, our pitching staff will look pretty darn good.

Bedard
Felix
Washburn
Silva
Batista

Marrow, Green, O'Flarrety, Huber, Putz out of the bullpen. Maybe Baek too can be the long relief guy.

Geoff Baker the Times blogger said he heard the M's have a Brad Wilkerson 1yr deal in the pocket pending the Bedard deal. Im not sold on Wilkerson and his strikeouts. With him and Richie Sexon in the lineup, thats alot of whiffs. I would like Shannon Stewert alot more. he could fit nicely in that number 2 role (much better than Beltre). I guess Bavasi likes him more becuase of his ability to also plat 1B along with RF.

***I have heard Jason Bay is availbe. That would be a nice addition, but prolly a very slim chance on happening. ***

I heard Bay is available and unhappy too but like you said it's a slim chance we get him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more and more I think about this deal (which has been almost all day) I really hope it falls through. Bedard would really solidify our rotation but I would rather keep the prospects.

Adam Jones could be a great 5 tool player for us and the other 2 prospects yet to be named could be valuable. I could live without Sherrill but he's a solid reliever.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the Bedard deal does go through, and you throw in the Silva signing, I'm tempted to put you guys as the favorites going into 2008.
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A couple things:

We will not make the playoffs, last year we overachieved and we were ruined by McLaren.

Bill Bavasi is GM, anything can happen. He said McLaren had a winning record last year even though he went 40-42, that proves his IQ

How do we compete with the Angels(barring injury) with that lineup? Bedard is gonna get injured at some point, our bottom half of the rotation can't win games. Our bullpen can't save. them either

Getting Bay helps the offense. It would also cost us Clement/Truinel and others. He is one of the worst arms in baseball and not great defensively.

Sexson is horrible. He can't bat anymore and plays bad defense. Yet hes the richest player on our team. Beltre can still contribute but not at the 54 HRs he once put up.

Sorry to be so negative. Just trying to be honest.

I am an Ms fan.
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TCP wrote:
A couple things:

We will not make the playoffs, last year we overachieved and we were ruined by McLaren.

Bill Bavasi is GM, anything can happen. He said McLaren had a winning record last year even though he went 40-42, that proves his IQ

How do we compete with the Angels(barring injury) with that lineup? Bedard is gonna get injured at some point, our bottom half of the rotation can't win games. Our bullpen can't save. them either

Getting Bay helps the offense. It would also cost us Clement/Truinel and others. He is one of the worst arms in baseball and not great defensively.

Sexson is horrible. He can't bat anymore and plays bad defense. Yet hes the richest player on our team. Beltre can still contribute but not at the 54 HRs he once put up.

Sorry to be so negative. Just trying to be honest.

I am an Ms fan.


Well we can all take solice in the fact Sexon is off the books after this year Dancing .

And id only want Bay for dirt cheap. RH hitters suck in Safeco. You can just use the eye test, "how many homeruns have you seen out to left? "

And yes, its a common trait amoung us M's fans. We are very pesimistic.
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We won't get Bay for dirt cheap. He is one of the best players on the Pirates, yeah I know they suck but he is still solid.

I don't want him. We need defense not offense. We obviously built around out rotation, we need great defense to win with Washburn, Silva and HoRam pitching.

Offense helps but I am not ditching our future for it. Sorry.
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TCP wrote:
We won't get Bay for dirt cheap. He is one of the best players on the Pirates, yeah I know they suck but he is still solid.

I don't want him. We need defense not offense. We obviously built around out rotation, we need great defense to win with Washburn, Silva and HoRam pitching.

Offense helps but I am not ditching our future for it. Sorry.

Agreed

We need to build more talent within the organization and keep them.
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This was "the year" for the talent to come in to play. Where the rookie pitchers turn into backend rotation players. Where the MLB ready pitchers get in the pen. Jones and Clement coming out to start. Wlad getting some time.

We sacrificed some of that. For nothing to Confused
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TCP wrote:
This was "the year" for the talent to come in to play. Where the rookie pitchers turn into backend rotation players. Where the MLB ready pitchers get in the pen. Jones and Clement coming out to start. Wlad getting some time.

We sacrificed some of that. For nothing to Confused

Well for us who want to keep the young prospects we can still hope the Angelos veto the trade Smile
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I am just scared that Bavasi will do something stupid to make it hurry up:

MacPhail: hello
Bavasi: its Bavasi, hurry up
MacPhail: It's Angelos he always does this
Bavasi: Can I make it go faster by sweeting the deal?
MacPhai: Well hmm
Bavasi(cuts in): Theres this 20 year old Venezuelan who could be decent. He was our ace last year
MacPhail: Done!
Bavasi: (thinks to himself: I am a genious)

He will do that/
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TCP wrote:
I am just scared that Bavasi will do something stupid to make it hurry up:

MacPhail: hello
Bavasi: its Bavasi, hurry up
MacPhail: It's Angelos he always does this
Bavasi: Can I make it go faster by sweeting the deal?
MacPhai: Well hmm
Bavasi(cuts in): Theres this 20 year old Venezuelan who could be decent. He was our ace last year
MacPhail: Done!
Bavasi: (thinks to himself: I am a genious)

He will do that/

Not even he is that stupid Wink

If the deal goes through what are the chances we can lock Bedard up long term?
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Not good.

I hear Bedard's agent is a Boras wannabe. So he will most definitely be "advised" to opt out. We have the owners and cash to offer him the money once that happens though.

Maybe we can sign him right away but I am gonna guess he opts out. Safeco is a great place for a pitcher to inflate his numbers. If he waits he can get more.
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