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CTCowboysFan


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Cap. Troubles Reply with quote

Is it true that the Bucs are over the cap. by 14 million, if so basically wou will have to release all free agents and move practice sqaud guys up and trade down in the draft and drat that mcphearse quarterback and runningback Maurice Clarett. I can kind of see Clarett going to the Bucs.
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stevethepirate22


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok yes the bucs are in cap trouble but as far as trading down or releasing all our fa's thats absurd.... if they trade down itll be for extra picks not cuz theres no way they'll be able to afford it
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mjs020294


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Cap. Troubles Reply with quote

CTCowboysFan wrote:
Is it true that the Bucs are over the cap. by 14 million, if so basically wou will have to release all free agents and move practice sqaud guys up and trade down in the draft and drat that mcphearse quarterback and runningback Maurice Clarett. I can kind of see Clarett going to the Bucs.


The cap situation is fine, not great, but they will have plenty of space. They are currently between 10-12 million over this years cap with next year’s contracts. Compare that to the 38 million the Raiders were over two years ago in January, and they came out of FA about 8 million under!

Considering the following when looking at the cap:

2004-05 cap rises $5 million
The figures include $8.1 million for Griese
The figure includes $6.5 million for Brad Johnson

Restructure Griese and release Johnson on June 1st, and the Bucs will be about $2-3 million under.

Then restructure a few players, Brooks and Rice can be reduced from a $18 million cap hit to about $8-10 million hit, plus one or two other restructures. They will be around $15 million under for FA, and with backend weighted deals that will be plenty to sign a couple of good FA.

BTW - The Raiders were 38 million over in January 2002, three months later they came out of FA and the draft 5 million under....the cap is smoke and mirrors.
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haggis


Joined: 03 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People we need to let go and replace...

Todd Steussie (OT)
2005 2,000,000.00
2006 3,240,000.00
2007 3,333,333.00
2008 3,333,333.00
2009 3,333,333.00

Brad Johnson (QB)
2005 5,750,000.00
2006 6,750,000.00

Charlie Garner (RB)
2005 1,400,000.00
2006 2,000,000.00
2007 2,600,000.00
2008 3,200,000.00
2009 3,800,000.00

Mario Edwards (CB)
2005 1,600,000.00
2006 1,500,000.00
2007 1,500,000.00
2008 1,500,000.00
2009 1,500,000.00

Shelton Quarles (LB)
2005 2,500,000.00
2006 3,100,000.00
2007 3,750,000.00

Joe Jurivicious (WR)
2005 2,000,000.00

PLAYERS SALARIES THAT NEED RESTRUCTING
Ellis Wyms (DL)
2005 540,000.00
2006 3,000,000.00
2007 3,900,000.00
2008 4,800,000.00
2009 5,700,000.00

Greg Spires (DL)
2005 3,000,000.00

Simeon Rice (DL)
2005 6,000,000.00
2006 6,000,000.00
2007 7,250,000.00

Derrick Brooks (LB)
2005 5,750,000.00
2006 7,750,000.00
2007 10,000,000.00
2008 11,000,000.00
2009 12,000,000.00
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Buccaneers101


Joined: 31 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Cap. Troubles Reply with quote

mjs020294 wrote:
CTCowboysFan wrote:
Is it true that the Bucs are over the cap. by 14 million, if so basically wou will have to release all free agents and move practice sqaud guys up and trade down in the draft and drat that mcphearse quarterback and runningback Maurice Clarett. I can kind of see Clarett going to the Bucs.


The cap situation is fine, not great, but they will have plenty of space. They are currently between 10-12 million over this years cap with next year’s contracts. Compare that to the 38 million the Raiders were over two years ago in January, and they came out of FA about 8 million under!

Considering the following when looking at the cap:

2004-05 cap rises $5 million
The figures include $8.1 million for Griese
The figure includes $6.5 million for Brad Johnson

Restructure Griese and release Johnson on June 1st, and the Bucs will be about $2-3 million under.

Then restructure a few players, Brooks and Rice can be reduced from a $18 million cap hit to about $8-10 million hit, plus one or two other restructures. They will be around $15 million under for FA, and with backend weighted deals that will be plenty to sign a couple of good FA.

BTW - The Raiders were 38 million over in January 2002, three months later they came out of FA and the draft 5 million under....the cap is smoke and mirrors.


Can i get a link for where you get all of the salaries. Ive been looking for them for a while. Thx.
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mjs020294


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The salaries are on nflpa.org, but that doesn't show signing bonuses and cap numbers. The lost above only shows salaries and is not the treu picture, for instantance Brooks is a 8+ million cap hit next year.
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Kcrazy


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Posts: 71
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are not going to release Shelton Quarles maybe rrestructt his contract but not release. Funny though you lleft out Mike Alstott, I like the guy but he has missed one whole season due to injury and in Gruden's offense he is not that valueable.
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GulfBayWarriors


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Location: Charlotte, NC
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Release Ian Gold and draft Derrick Johnson. If not, just put Nece back in bc Golds number werent any better than his two years ago.
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