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KBALLZ2 
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turtle28 
Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 12022 Location: MD/DC/VA depends on the hr!
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that's good for him, he really has no reason to return to school. the team will probably be worse next year than it was this year.
He was big fish in a small pond which is weird because its usually the other way around when you are talking about Miami.
I hope he falls to my skins, who will be picking somewhere in the 20s.
But i'm sure he'll go before that. I don't know if he'll be top 10, that depends on the combine and workouts but hes def top 20 talent. |
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starheather
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| YAY!!!!!!!!!! superfreak time. a top 5 lock. certainly worthy of the #1 overall pick |
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Fight_on_SC_8 
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| starheather wrote: | | YAY!!!!!!!!!! superfreak time. a top 5 lock. certainly worthy of the #1 overall pick |
Umm no way this makes me laugh he will slip into the 15-25 Range because he wasn't productive this year but Worthy on #1 Overall No Way/. _________________
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ochocinco4pres 
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 12046 Location: bloomington, in
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| starheather wrote: | | YAY!!!!!!!!!! superfreak time. a top 5 lock. certainly worthy of the #1 overall pick |
in the preseason he was considered a top 5 pick but due to lack of effectiveness this season he will fall just like Fight_on_SC_8 said. He is a great talent but at this point he is all potential and he has such a high ceiling...He just has to get a team that can help him reach that potential.... _________________
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eaglesfan536890 
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 12142 Location: Brick, New Jersey
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He's definitely not going top 5, I agree with F_O_SC8, he'll be around by the Eagles pick, I really hope we drfat him. _________________
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JudeMorrigan
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| starheather wrote: | | YAY!!!!!!!!!! superfreak time. a top 5 lock. certainly worthy of the #1 overall pick |
Well, you're not someone who's afraid to go against coventional wisdom, I'll give you that.
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starheather
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| lack of effectiveness. hmmm. hes going to run 4.8 range or under at 6 7 1/2 and nearly 300. smells like mario williams. i watched about 7 of his games, and he was never inneffective. he played great in every game although teams never went at him. theres just as much to be said for a player who gets sacks and tackles etc if theyre facing singles all day as there is to say for a guy like campbell, who gets doubled all day and teams dont even bother going at. watch the games, dont look at stats or newspaper clippings and tell me if he was inneffective. the idea that a chris long or glenn dorsey will be selected ahead of this guy is ludicrous. its not going to happen. 30 tfl in the last two years at 6 7 nearly 300 and no one could run at him. thats what its all about. thats what a top end, stud top 5 dl looks like. youre reading too many newspapers and paying far too muchj attention to stats, and his are great anyway. definitely absolutely unequivically worthy of the # 1 overall pick. a richard seymour/mario williams clone. i hope all of you just are hoping he falls to my team, saint happening. |
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ochocinco4pres 
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 12046 Location: bloomington, in
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| starheather wrote: | | lack of effectiveness. hmmm. hes going to run 4.8 range or under at 6 7 1/2 and nearly 300. smells like mario williams. i watched about 7 of his games, and he was never inneffective. he played great in every game although teams never went at him. theres just as much to be said for a player who gets sacks and tackles etc if theyre facing singles all day as there is to say for a guy like campbell, who gets doubled all day and teams dont even bother going at. watch the games, dont look at stats or newspaper clippings and tell me if he was inneffective. the idea that a chris long or glenn dorsey will be selected ahead of this guy is ludicrous. its not going to happen. 30 tfl in the last two years at 6 7 nearly 300 and no one could run at him. thats what its all about. thats what a top end, stud top 5 dl looks like. youre reading too many newspapers and paying far too muchj attention to stats, and his are great anyway. definitely absolutely unequivically worthy of the # 1 overall pick. a richard seymour/mario williams clone. i hope all of you just are hoping he falls to my team, saint happening. |
i promise u long and dorsey will go ahead of campbell....ya he had 30 tfl in two years but 20.5 of them came in his soph year meaning only 8.5 this year...he had a huge drop off from his season last year..dropping from 10 sacks to 6 and 84 tackles to 50...he will not be in the top 5 picks this season...he is a freak size and speed wise i will not argue that but that doesnt mean he is effective... _________________
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Flatlyner 
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No way is he going over Dorsey and Long. Despite his freakish measurables, I did watch several of Miami's games and he was largely ineffective and actually gave up on many plays.
I watched many Virginia games and Long was dominant. Why do you suppose Virgina had a good record this season. It happens to coincide with Longs improved play.
I'd take Long and Gholston over Campbell all day. I'm looking for production, not measurables. _________________
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starheather
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| the prob;em with your argument is that this is the direction the league is going on defense at the top of the draft. theyre not picking injury prone, undersized, or 4-3 under tackles at the top of the draft. please come back to 2008. this is the direction the leagues going. lomg is an undersized overrated scrub who the scouts will have a filed day with. campbell has more sacks/ tfl in the last two years than either dorsey or long. more production. more ability more athleticism, more everything. you can believe hype or you can believe the reality. the reality is the leagues going away from the long/dorsey types near the top and going after the freaks like campbell at the top. lies and hype are the only place that long and dorsey are better |
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ochocinco4pres 
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| starheather wrote: | | the prob;em with your argument is that this is the direction the league is going on defense at the top of the draft. theyre not picking injury prone, undersized, or 4-3 under tackles at the top of the draft. please come back to 2008. this is the direction the leagues going. lomg is an undersized overrated scrub who the scouts will have a filed day with. campbell has more sacks/ tfl in the last two years than either dorsey or long. more production. more ability more athleticism, more everything. you can believe hype or you can believe the reality. the reality is the leagues going away from the long/dorsey types near the top and going after the freaks like campbell at the top. lies and hype are the only place that long and dorsey are better |
Lies and hype...have u watched the two teams play..the two players are freaks...dorsey can manhandle an offensive line and live in the backfield and 14 sacks from long this year is production...Neither player is undersized...dorsey is an exact replica of a young warren sapp or tommie harris and long is the next great at 3-4 DE....Campbell will be a good pro but he is no where near the talent of Dorsey or Long. They will prob go 1-2 with Campbell going sometime in the mid 1st round... _________________
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GeauxLSUTigers 
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Id say the real problem is that some people continue to look only at measurables. Atheleticism doesnt mean a thing if they cant play football. Im not saying that Campbell cannot play, Im saying that just because hes a "freak" doesnt mean hes the next coming of Julius Peppers. _________________ "I have not yet begun to defile myself"
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chand223 
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| starheather wrote: | | lack of effectiveness. hmmm. hes going to run 4.8 range or under at 6 7 1/2 and nearly 300. smells like mario williams. i watched about 7 of his games, and he was never inneffective. he played great in every game although teams never went at him. theres just as much to be said for a player who gets sacks and tackles etc if theyre facing singles all day as there is to say for a guy like campbell, who gets doubled all day and teams dont even bother going at. watch the games, dont look at stats or newspaper clippings and tell me if he was inneffective. the idea that a chris long or glenn dorsey will be selected ahead of this guy is ludicrous. its not going to happen. 30 tfl in the last two years at 6 7 nearly 300 and no one could run at him. thats what its all about. thats what a top end, stud top 5 dl looks like. youre reading too many newspapers and paying far too muchj attention to stats, and his are great anyway. definitely absolutely unequivically worthy of the # 1 overall pick. a richard seymour/mario williams clone. i hope all of you just are hoping he falls to my team, saint happening. |
Difference being 1.) Williams was extremely productive 2.) Williams also was a massive physical freak, much more so then Campbell _________________
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starheather
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| i watched dorsey. he sux. hes "injured" every game and lacks the athleticism of even an omobi okoye type. hype hype hype. long is going to get physically dominated in the nfl. hes a player for another era. cc is the future. oh and by the way vs tt long sucked. no penetration, easily handled by one man. a smaller slower less athletic justin smith clone. will not be picked high. the great white HYPE! |
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