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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: College Target: OLB Biermann, Montana. Reply with quote

I try to do something different on college prospects since a lot of us will start up a million of new threads relating the prospects. I will collect all mentioned prospects to the 2nd post so that way it is easy for us to track all prospects who are supposed to be "helpful" to Jets.

Target prospect list will be in the 2nd main post. When you see new name on this thread I put up a new prospect's profile or brief summary. You can discuss or stay quiet on the target.

What round should a prospect be taken is of no importance. There are few simple rules for this thread.

1. Use your freaking common sense. For example, QB Matt Ryan or LB Phillip Wheeler to replace Pennington/Clemens or Vilma/Harris. It is totally unacceptable UNLESS Mangini has shown some displeasure with the certain player or the certain player is as good as goner.

2. Only 3 year Sophomore, Junior and Senior are eligible.

3. PM me for prospect to share including:

A. Full Name.
B. Team and Jersey Number.
C. Size.
D. Position.
E. Year.
F. Profile or short summary.


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#53 Troy Biermann, Montana.
Senior DE.
6 3 242.

He just won 2007's Buck Buchanan Award over my favorite Safety Corey Lynch by 5 damn 5 points. It was closest voting in the award's history. Anyway, Montana is one of the strong football programs in Subdivision. Biermann ended his career with 33 sacks and 46 tackles for loss which that indicates he can play in the backfield very effectively.. Dont laugh at him winning the Subdivision's Buck Buchanan Award because Rashean Mathis in 2002, Jared Allen in 2003, Jordan Beck in 2004, Chris Gocong in 2005 and Kyle Shotwell in 2006 are already on NFL's roster. He may be undersized but he has a plenty room to bulk up. Forget to mention, he registered 70 total tackles, 34 solo stops last year as it may suggest that he can do the run defense. He should fill up our OLB nicely.

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#25 Matthew Forte, Tulane.
Senior RB.
6 2 221.

Huge player who can run between the tackels, but surprisingly has enough burst to turn the corner and outrun some players. Reliable as a receiver out of the backfield as well. Hits the hole hard. Not much information about pass-blocking skills, but he has the size to warrant the belief that he could stand up a blitzing LB. Versatile and could easily develop into an every-down back - even with his size. Was viewed as no more than a late round pickup prior to the season, but his senior year, showings at all-star games, and performance against LSU earlier this year have steadliy moved him up draft boards. Looks more and more like a mid-2nd to early 3rd round back at this point...

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#5 Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois.
Junior Runningback.
5 11 224.

Top power runner who has enough speed to do many different things. He has a good vision as he is able to be patient behind the blocking. He fits every offense scheme in NFL however, ZBS may be a best option for him.

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#91 Derrick Harvey, Florida.
Junior Defensive End.
6 4 262.

He has excellent pass rushing skill with decent size to play OLB in 3-4. He is raw as his speed and coverage are questionable. He may need an impressive performance and measurables at combine to be having a shot at OLB, otherwise he will be stuck at DE which I think he will. Who knows.

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#4 Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma.
Junior Wide Receiver.
6 4 220.

He has everything except timed speed and seperation to be top NFL WR. He missed in final few games included bowl game due to leg injury. Physical, alone itself, is a first round package but his performance and desire to be competitive are quite low so he needs to show that he is a gamer during the combine and pro day.

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#25 Jamaal Charles, Texas.
Junior Runningback.
6 1 205.

One of few speedy RBs in college who will develop into a power RB for NFL team. He has excellent game breakaway speed with excellent vision. He lowers his shoulders against defenders. I believe he wont be in same line as Williams and Benson who were already considered power RB out of college. I feel Charles is the best RB in 2008 class. Jets need a blown away speed to mix with Jones and Washington.


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#24 Kevin Smith, Central Florida.
Junior Runningback.
6 1 211.

A physical RB with enough speed to power up the offense. He has good quickness, vision and receiving skill. Big knock on him is a level of competition but he has a football smarts. Since RB class is ridiculously deep and he may be slipping into 2nd or 3rd round. Jets can take an advantage of it.

RED FLAG: He is a Miami native. Ouch.

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#10 Earl Bennett, Vanderbilt.
Junior Wide Receiver.
6 1 205.

He has a solid hands. While his timed speed is just adequate, he can run very well after catching the football. He may be similar to Brad Smith with better hands. If Jets feel the hands are important then he may get a nod over Smith for that spot.

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#82 James Hardy, Indiana.
Junior Wide Receiver.
6 6 210.

Big receiver with polished hands who is also on basketball team. As usual, off the line speed is questionable which is very typical for big and tall WR. He has nothing left to prove so he goes ahead and opt for NFL draft.

RED FLAG: Battered his girlfriend and their infant son. Several personal issues are indicated which prompted him to be suspended for two games.

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#6 Jake Ikegwuono, Wisconsin.
Junior Cornerback.
6 1 200.

Good size and ballhawk skill to be potential Free Safety at next level as a source said. He is a little bit raw and should stay in school for another season to refine his skills as CB. Jets' incumbent starting FS Elam had shown a good flash in few games last year but Jets have not yet to pencil him as starting FS next season. Ikegwuono may have a problem with tackling technique but once it is fixed, he may be as good as Tanrad Jackson who had played well in his rookie season for Buccaneers last year.

RED FLAG: Faced Burglary charges.


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#94 Phillip Merling, Clemson.
Junior Defensive End.
6 5 285.

He is a somewhat freak. No matter what is his weight he still runs well. He has been bulking up so I think OLB is out of question as he may be better fit the strongside DE in 4-3 in favor of his speed and pass rushing skill. However, if he has room to bulk up some more then he may be next Luis Castillo. He should take over Ellis' position if Jets want to upgrade the run game. Ellis and Robertson are reasons the run game sucks. Why go after 290 lber instead of 310 lber? oh well, Mangini likes to have linemen who has good lean on body.

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#7 Jerod Mayo, Tennessee.
Junior Linebacker.
6 2 230.

He is a tackling machine with high character. I believe he has room to bulk up which is what Vilma lacks of. He may be a good option to replace Vilma if Vilma is traded as a lot of 3-4 teams will take as many big LBs as they can during first 3 or 4 rounds so If Mayo is available after that he will be a solid developmental prospect.

RED FLAG: last season is his first time to play a complete season without any injury.

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#78 Anthony Collins, Kansas.
Junior Offensive Tackle.
6 6 310.

He may be a LT for NFL team but he has good size among above average footwork and pass protecting that made the puny-sized QB Reesing look like Manning. His pass protecting technique is sound enough to replace Clement in no time. He is a good reserve for leftover first round talent after 1st round so Jets can gather all top talents to build the brass.


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#1 James Davis, Clemson.
Junior Runningback.
5 11 205.

Home run threat in speed of his. He may be next Steelers' Parker. He has been consistent with average yards by carry which is at least 5 in past 3 years. Dont say that much since there are tooooo many RBs to mention for similar reasons.

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#95 Pat Sims, AUburn.
Junior Defensive Tackle.
6 4 315.

Although he was UT as he was not always responsible for run game he was very stout against run. His role may be undetermined for 3-4 DL because he has very good pass rushing move which is better off at DE. Mangini wants NT who can move well. If Sims can move left, right, backward and forward then he is the one Mangini looks for as long as his leverage is solid. Last year was basically his only season as a starter If I remember correctly which that means he has less tear and wear on him. I believe he will shoot up into first round because many teams seek for run stuffing help. He could be ended up top 10 pick.



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#7 DaJuan Morgan, North Carolina State.
Junior Safety.
6 1 200.

He probably has better all round talent as natural S for this draft. He is very good at ballhawking and run stopping. His timed speed may be questionable but his game speed is not.

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#50 Vernon Gholston, Ohio State.
Junior Defensive End.
6 4 260.

Muscular DE who excels at off the edge speed. The reason taking him is the same as Groves in the earlier season which is a sack artist. his coverage skill and shredding off blocker skill are in serious question.

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#40 Curtis Lofton, Oklahoma.
Junior Linebacker.
6 240.

He may be short in height but his skills are overwhelmed. He follows the ball extremely well. He may be a good T/C 2 MLB because his coverage and ballhawk skills are noticeable although all points have hinted he will be a WLB at next level. He may be a best MLB in this class for this draft. He can be fittable with 3-4 defense because his instincts and strength are good enough to stop the run. If he runs poorly at the combine then T/C 2 wont be in hurry to take him so he can become available to 3-4 defense like Harris did last year. All defensive players with good run stopping skills are a MUST.


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#3 Reggie Smith, Oklahoma.
Junior Cornerback.
6 1 200.

Natural born ballhawker that comes with solid run stopping skill. He can be either CB or FS at next level. He could be next Eric Weddle but he wont fall out of the first round. Jets may need to address at RCB and FS so Smith is a good fit. He is not shy away from big and physical WR.

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#7 Mario Urrutia, Louisville.
Junior Wide Receiver.
6 6 220.

Same explantion for a physical specimen on him. He had been disappointed last season as he dropped football too much. Since there are about dozen of big WR (6 2-6 6) for this draft he may be falling into at least 4th round. He could be a good option for Jets as Jets try to power up the offense.

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#4 Taj Smith, Syracuse.
Junior Wide Receiver.
6 1 185.

Very talented receiver with above average speed and hands. He will be on NFL roster at age of 25. He could go undrafted as Jets should give him a good look because his timed speed is low 4.4.

RED FLAG: Oft-injured.



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#25 Felix Jones, Arkansas.
Junior Runningback.
6 200.

He is a versatile player who has experience at TB, WR and return man. He should make Mangini drool. He has a first round tool but him being featured RB at next level is uncertainly. He may be a good steal for mid round.

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#5 Devin Thomas, Michigan State.
Junior Wide Receiver.
6 2 210.

Because he is expecting his first child, he forgoes his senior season for NFL. He is one of the top WR in NCAA but it is his only year. Despite a lack of blazing speed, he runs very solid route and has very good hands. Evidently, 75 catches in merely 12 games he made for slightly over 1000 yards. He is also a dangerous returnman. I think Thomas will be next Miller who did not have a blazing speed out of college but after working under NFL conditioning, he becomes one of fastest guys on the roster. I like the idea of having 3 return men on the roster because I strongly believe Washington will be seen more action on offense next season as Miller may fight for starting RCB job again. Keep Washington and Miller fresher by rotating them with Thomas. Thomas can beat out Smith and few other WRs for McCareins’ place.


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#90 Andy Studebaker, Wheaton.
Senior Defensive End.
6 4 245.

Top sack artist in Division 3. He reportedly ran sub 4.5 in forty. He also played at OLB for the college. Because of level of competition, he may be good for late round or UDFA. He may be a special team contributor or 3rd down situational pass rusher or member of practice squad. Jets need to bring in some speed to bolster defense, as Thomas should be on hot seat next season. He had registered 25 sacks, 22 qb hurries, 11 pbu, 99 tackles and 42 tfl for two seasons altogether before heading into last season as senior when he merely played 5 games due to foot injury but he managed to register 5 sacks, 3 quarterback hurries, 3 pass breaking ups, 7 tfl among with 12 total tackles. He must be a Godzilla in division 3? He also is a gymrat.

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#86 Tom Santi, Virginia.
Senior Tight End.
6 5 250.

He is as good a TE as Health Miller but the result between them is incomparable. Groh only used Santi to do most blocking scheme inside and outside. It was very rarely to see Santi to catch enough balls due to either lousy quarterback or low offense skill OC. He has good speed and size to hold up the position job as well as he can do FB. He should be a good deal on day two but he can be taken on day one because he has all tools to be successful as NFL TE.

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#1 Erin Henderson, Maryland.
Junior Weakside Linebacker.
6 4 242.

I had been looking forward to Vikings’ LB Henderson replacing Vilma someday but his young brother just declared for NFL draft this year. He has good size with long arms. Some people said that he is way way better than Rivers but looked at Terps’ defense team, there were like 2 or 3 good players on team whilst USC had what? At least 8 or 9 solid players for their defense. It is difficult to compare between Henderson and Rivers but Rivers has all tools including pass rushing and blitzing. I think Henderson should be useful inside for Jets because his range and speed may be questionable. He has somewhat Coles personality. You know, Coles always complained too much during training camp and money situation but when he was on the field he just shut up and played right. In Henderson case, he is more of self-ego hardhead but when he is under football terms such as practice or game or discussion or whatever, he is a different person and he focuses on something he does not understand or know or succeed.

RED FLAG: Knee trouble, always hurt during camps, his annoying singing.



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#79 Ryan Clady, Boise State.
Junior Offensive Tackle.
6 6 317.

He is my current number one OT for 2008 draft because he can do pass protecting and run blocking as well as he fits any scheme NFL teams run. He can be projected as all offensive line positions except Center. He is definitely better than former BSU standout Calledge (sp?) but both have problem dealing with noise. It may or may not a problem with Jets or Patriots because they usually let the play clock wind down to 2-4 seconds before snapping the ball. Clady can upgrade immediately at either LG or RT.

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#85 Marcus Monk, Arkansas.
Senior Wide Reciever.
6 6 220.

A touchdown machine receiver had missed technically first 7 weeks into his senior season. If it were not for knee injury, he could break the record of most touchdown catches by one wide receiver in college. He finished 28 TDs, 3 short from tying with Chris Doeling(sp). That sucks, indeed. Anyway, He attempted for a medical redshirt but was denied so he “basically” played with one and a quarter legs. His timed speed may be questionable as his knee is in process of full recovery. If he maintains at sub 4.6 then he should be a solid day one pick.

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#71 Ahtyba Rubin, Iowa State.
Senior Defensive Tackle.
6 2 326.

He had played DT for 2 final years for Cyclones after converted from OL. He was able to register the comfortable number of tackles(34 and 42). I prefer to have a NT from big school than to gamble on DT from small school or low level of competition division. Granted, he is very raw but who is proven NT for NFL out of college?

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#61 Robert Felton, Arkansas.
Senior Offensive Guard.
6 4 320.

Power mauler who can play T and C which will make him more value to Jets’ crappy OL. If he is not ready to be everydown player, no problem he will become a reliable backup OL and play few snaps that designs a run game for certain situation.

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#55 Keith Rivers, Southern California.
Senior Outside Linebacker.
6 3 235.

Dont let his size fool you, he plays like 255 pound LBer. He has excellent coverage, tackling, blitzing and rushing skills. This chicken legs Fifty-Fiver can shred off the blocker with hands very well. He has a chance to be first OLB taken off the draftboard in top 10 easily. Rose Bowl performance will be questionable because he has been slowed by leg injury as HC Carroll has prepped up a backup junior to take his spot for this bowl. He should be ready for the combine, pro day or private session. If he is more than impressive by scouts then he may cement his stock with top 5 pick. Since Groves' stock has dropped due to leg and toe injuries Rivers may be a better choice for Jets as top 5 pick.

RED FLAG: when he was sophomore he digged Paris Hilton :lol:

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#27 Jordy Nelson, Kansas State.
Senior Wide Receiver.
6 2 217.

Former walk on DB runs good route-running with soft hands. He had a blasting season as senior( 122 rec 1606 yards 11 tds). He was supposed to be a burner but he suffered serious leg injury that may affect his speed. However, he should manage to run 4.5 or better. He may be a sleeper for now but he may escalate to solid mid rounder with impressive combine and pro day. If you are sick of Smith dropping balls too much then Jordy should cure your illness.

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#75 Nate Garner, Arkansas.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 6 325.

He is a natural RT for QB-RB option offense. He excels at run blocking and his pass protection is there as his footwork has shown to work with his frame. Since Jets try to use tricks to confuse a defense and are unsuccessful for most of times, Nate should solve the problem at RT as he has been used to ball changes in the backfield.

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#30 Kelin Johnson, Georgia.
Senior Safety.
6 0 200.

He was on the list for the Lott Award in April so it is something Mangini likes. No wonder his major is speech communication; he talks too much about his team (no I don’t mean badmouth). He seems to be improved at ball hawking, as he has no problem to give in run support. Big test on him is he will face Hawaii’s premier run and shoot offense in big bowl. His timed speed is questionable if you want to have another Kerry Rhodes on the roster.

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#49 Dionte Johnson, Ohio State.
Senior Fullback.
6 0 242.

It is absolutely cool to have someone whose godfather named Keith Byars and father named Pepper Johnson. Despite OSU head coach Tressel rarely used FB for some ball action such as carrying or receiving balls, he can power up inside with leg thrust and has soft hands. His primary job is to block someone and make a room for RBs. OSU run game is pretty good so Johnson did his job. If Jets decide not to use any draft pick on FB then Jets should give Dionte a look but his father is with Patriots.

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#22 Adam Ballard, Navy.
Senior Fullback.
6 1 240.

Midshipmen run triple option offense, the offense Bender is familiar with, which requires a lot of run and block assignments. He can run, catch and block. I think he is worth a pick although he is not on consensus draft site’ s rank for FB. He should upgrade to Tutt, Barnes, Kozlowski and even Posziask effortlessly.

#86 Marcus Henry, Kansas.
Senior Wide Receiver.
6 4 210.

His tall and rangy with respectable speed combination may remind you of Burress or Lelie. He had a good senior campaign that draws some attention from scouts. Day two consideration for him is recommended.

RED FLAG: Kobe Bryant is his pal. Ouch!

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#72 Glenn Dorsey, Louisiana State.
Senior Defensive Tackle.
6 2 300.

He is a full package Tackle with high character. He completed this season without losing any value from last year as top DT on the draftboard. For 3-4 NT project, I think he has better advantage than Ellis the classic 3 tech because he had been doubled team for most of the season which allowed unheard name of DE Pittman having a good season as in fact, he outperformed Jackson. There are few problems having him for 3-4 NT: he has good speed which is a waste of talent to play the scheme; Jets may end a season sitting on top 5 which is not a general idea of taking NT; Dorsey is okayed with 3-4 scheme? I believe it will be a toss up between Ellis and Dorsey to be our NT of the future and only winner will vocally approve 3-4 scheme.

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#4 Limas Sweed, Texas.
Senior Wide Receiver.
6 4 220.

Never mind his out of season wrist surgery, I believe he will be in good shape for the combine and wowing some scouts and us with his leg drills. Yes, he does not have a home run speed but he surely can run well enough to separate himself from defender. He has a knack for many catches when he is covered tightly by defender so thus he will be a perfect fit in Schottemheimer’s conservative offense. Jets need a solid and hand ready 3rd wide receiver on the field to take some pressure away from Jets’ top receivers Coles and Cotchery. It should help Clemens to improve his 5-7 dropback action.

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#4 Mike Jenkins, South Florida.
Senior Cornerback.
6 0 200.

He may be a next Deion Sanders, which that means he has blazing speed for man to man coverage and in closing pursuit as well as his run support remains questionable. He can play FS if necessary. If you are tired of seeing a big cushion given by our CB then he is ours. He also returns in special team. His stock has risen too much since the middle of the season so thus, once Jets manage to trade out of top 5, he is a good choice.

RED FLAG: Arrested for opposing the officer.

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#9 Early Doucet, Louisiana State.
Senior Wide Receiver.
6 0 207.

He has good size among decent speed and hands as well as he runs good routes. He can play a slot or deep threat, which will solidify Jets’ 3rd WR beautifully. Despite foot injury that knocked him out for few games included big games like Kentucky, he still is one of top WR on the draftboard. If he surprisingly falls onto Jets’ 2nd round pick then they better snatch him. Don’t argue politically with it..

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#34 Leodis McKelvin.
Senior Cornerback.
6 0 190.

His stock has soared up into the first round talent like crazy. He is not only good cornerback but he is one of the best special returners in NCAA. He has speed and size to tussle down almost all kinds of wide receivers. Troy is a knack for hard-hitting DB products so I can guess he can give in a run support without any problem. He is probably the best all round product for 2008 draft.

RED FLAG: marijuana possession.

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#74 Chris Williams, Vanderbilt.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 6 320.

He had started at LG for 9 games in row back in 2005 but he was 2 year starting LT as a result he allowed only two sacks. He has good quickness in footwork to handle most of speedy rush passers. Although he has a shot to be LT of the future in NFL, he has good strength to maneuver the right side. He has good football smart and leadership among high character. I still believe that he still needs to work on few twitches to be all pro bowler RT.

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#97 Tommy Blake, Texan Christian.
Senior Defensive End.
6 3 252.

He managed to register 3 sacks in final 4 games for TCU after returning from “Sabbath”. He has excellent speed to chase down quarterbacks in the backfield and ballcarriers in open field. He could be more of a monster than Merriman or Ware.

RED FLAG: Personal Issue that caused him leaving teams twice.

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#40 Dan Connor, Penn State.
Senior Linebacker.
6 3 233.

He has good measurables with some room to bulk up. He is smart with good reaction to ball. Sure tackler with good hands to shred off the blockers is something that is missing in Vilma. He may be this year’s Pat Willis.

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#49 Chris Ellis, Virginia Tech.
Senior Defensive End.
6 5 265.

He is a machine of Hell. He runs anywhere. He is quarterback’s worst nightmare because he does not stand and wait for a qb to run toward him like many DE in NCAA have done. After having subpar junior, he becomes one of top DE in NCAA. He is probably the most package as either DE or OLB for 2008 draft.

RED FLAG: Poor discipline and attitude. Suspension for resisting arrest of obstructing law or whatever.

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#85 Joseph “Red” Bryant, Texas A&M.
Senior Defensive Tackle.
6 5 320.

He is a run stuffer that cant be moved away from the spot at the line. He reminds me of former Dolphins’ DT Tim Bowens. He is smart guy who was on leadership council for 4 years. He is a gym wonder, which he will wow us with his squat and bench numbers. He still needs to work some technique as NT because today, size means nothing without good leverage or technique.

RED FLAG: Knee surgery and had been underperformed since return from surgery.

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#44 Bruce Davis, UCLA.
Senior Defensive End.
6 3 235.

He was returned to DE from OLB after returning from DE to OLB in two years ago due to many injuries. He has ability to play OLB and DE in any formation of defensive schemes for NFL teams. He has good off edge speed and is a quarterback hawk. Undersized to be OLB in 3-4 scheme? How about Lawrence Taylor of Giants? Granted, it is totally different environmental between 1980/1990’s and 2000’s but coaching and technique are better in 2000 than LT’s era.. He is definitely upgraded to stocky Hobson at ROLB. He may need to refine himself as a coverage in OLB.

RED FLAG: Big Mouth and Attitude.

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#82 Martin Rucker, Missouri.
Senior Tight End.
6 5 255.

He is a brother of Panthers’ DE Mike Rucker and a son of a member of the House of Representatives in state of Missouri. He has high character to go with good speed, hands, route running and blocking. He can play inside and outside as far as an offensive gameplan uses him well. Daniels is one of the shortest qbs in NCAA and is able to find his favorite target in Rucker. It should benefit Clemens who is 6 1. Problem on him is he sometimes lays down and not plays with full effort.

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#83 Fred Davis, Southern California.
Senior Tight End.
6 4 245.

Despite his weak statistic, he has possessed a good blocking and downfield receiving. He is a little bit undersized but he can be a good HB/FB prospect to replace Ryan or Kozlowski. He has good speed to create some mismatch against LBs.

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#86 Brad Cottam, Tennessee.
Senior Tight End.
6 8 270.

Granted, he is raw but he runs well for his size. He was denied as a medical redshirt this year so he does not have enough experience on the field. He may be a good option for 4th round pick as Jets focus on other positions to upgrade firstly with day one picks.

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#77 Carl Nicks, Nebraska.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 5 330.

I think he had played LT for one year (senior season) with Huskers after transferred from JUCO as a result, he become one of the best LT in NCAA. Amazing isn’t it? Whilst he may struggle on run blocking he has long arms and good footwork to be most efficient pass blocker. He could be a project to be OG or RT for NFL teams. He needs to cut down some weight to make a room for muscle. He challenges few OT for first round talent but he is more likely fallen out of first round. He may become an attractive pick for Jets’ 2nd round pick.

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#75 Oniel Cousins, Texas, El Paso.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 4 305.

From skinny soccer player in Jamaica to reserve defensive tackle to offensive tackle, he had struggled and grown through some physical change. He improved on picking up the playbook and conditioning to match his physical. Hence, more scouts came to watch him practice as well as his stock may be cemented as a first OG selected for this year’s draft. He is very athletic with good speed footwork to handle the transfer from LT to RT. He could solve the Jets’ misery problem at LG. However, he lacks of experience.

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#75 Mike McGylnn, Pittsburgh.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 5 315.

He had started at RT since redshirted freshman season before he missed few games and shifted to OG this season. He had shoulder surgery and focused on rehab instead of attending spring practices last offseason so thus, he was not himself during his senior campaign although he had played well for most of the time. He is a truly blue collar player who devotes nothing but football. Want to know what is his bonus? He is also LS for field goals and extra point unit so Dearth should be gone because he is a waste of spot on the roster.

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#74 Heath Benedict, Newberry.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 5 330.

He is apparently to be top OL in division II again this season. He should wow us with his combine numbers. Despite being 330 lber he is not fat. He has everything but is still working on technique. Experience is questionable due to playing in Div 2. If he is available for 3rd round then Jets should consider seriously him because he can be a better project to play LG or RT than Bender.


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#74 Sean Sester, Purdue.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 8 320.

According to NFLdraftcountdown, he is below of the OT list which that means he should become one of best Undrafted free agents. He has tons of experience at RT as he has natural physique and athleticism to be full time RT in NFL. Unfortunately, he has been up and down for Boilermakers. He needs to work on his guts before learning how to play RT right for NFL team. If Jets have not drafted any RT for whatever reason then he should be signed by Jets for a tryout.

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#54 Corey Clark, Texas A&M.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 6 315.

Like Sester, he should be one of best undrafted free agents. Aggies run qb-rb options so thus he is better off playing LG for Jets. He is very athleticism with probably 5 flat in 40 time.

RED FLAG: drugs charge and outstanding warrant.

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#79 Barry Richardson, Clemson.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 8 340.

He just graduated from Clemson, which it made 3 and ½ years schooling for him. Originally, he did not care about rushing to get degree or be a NFL player before NFL scouts had around to watch him in practices and games, which made him, realize that he has a future in NFL. Hence, he worked seriously to accomplish the degree before going out for NFL draft. Unfortunately, his weight has been an issue as he apparently being lazy. He needs to cut down some weight and pick up some conditioning to be successful NFL player. He can be a LT for power run team or a RT for variety of offenses.

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#63 Andrew Crummey, Maryland.
Senior Offensive Guard.
6 5 300.

A powerful G who suffered the broken leg and missed most of the season. Like Mangini, he majored in Political Science. He can play all positions at the line but we may need to see him perform at the combine for further decision. If it was not for broken leg, he could be a lock for day one pick.

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#79 John Greco, Toledo.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 5 320.

As freshman, he started 12 games at RT before moving to LT to replace Kazcur(Patriots OL). He is good at run blocking and pass protecting as OL rarely gave up sacks and was responsible for averaging 200 yard per carry a season. He should fill the RT job nicely for Jets if he is still available in either 3rd or 4th round depending on combine and pro day numbers.

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#2 William Franklin, Missouri.
Senior Wide Receiver.
6 2 205.

His uncle Darnay Scott, a standout WR who averaged 800 yards per season for Bengals in 9 out of first 10 years, is the reason why he digs football. He is similar to Justin McCareins with better body control. McCareins has been suffering dropping balls too much due to a lack of body control. Since Mizzou runs run and shoot offense, WR and TE have similar jobs such as run blocking, vertical threat, running into traffic, etc so thus there should be no question against his toughness on the field. He has good hands and runs good routes go with his solid size and speed combination. He also had experience being H-back in his sophomore season. He could be Jets’ number 2 or 3 WRs on the chart by the end of next season. He is a cheap alternative to Bowman and Kelly who are more likely taken by 2nd round.

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#90 Kentwan Balmer, North Carolina.
Senior Defensive Tackle.
6 5 295.

Could he be next Seymour? Former DE suffered a weak junior season as he started final 8 games inside during being not 100 percent healthy from injured ankle. When he was fully recovery and ready to go for senior campaign he has been dominating interior. He has good lateral movement and uses the hands very well. He plays inside like DE which is incredibly impressive. Although he is a perfect ideal for Wade Phillip’s 3-4 defense he should replace Ellis comfortably in 2009 season.

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#96 Keilen Dykes, West Virginia.
Senior Nose Guard.
6 4 300.

He has played inside the 3 men line and is very stout against the run. He should handle 3-4 DE just fine. Since Jets could not afford to dump Ellis, Robertson and/or Coleman due to large signing bonuses selecting Dykes in the midst of the draft should benefit Jets money vs performance- wise. I am tired to see Jets bringing in 13+ years vet to aid overpaid DL. None of them were stout against the run.

RED FLAG: played for school with high reputation for troubled players.

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#45 Maurice Murray, New Mexico State.
Senior Defensive End.
6 3 320.

Aggies run 3-4 scheme so his profile is not an error. He has been playing DE well despite his size. It does not mean he is ready to take over NT for NFL team because technique and leverage are different between NT and DE as he was probably a bully in MWC. He needs to trim down the weight and bulk up with some muscle. His value may be day one pick because Jets are not alone who is in hunt of NT help. Pouha should be a starting NT next season but he is closer to 30 years old so thus Murray is a suitable ideal to back up or rotate Pouha.

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#96 Nick Hayden, Wisconsin.
Senior Defensive Tackle.
6 5 310.

On the field, he is similar to Dre Moore. Power up inside, able to hold the fort at the line and do a little 3 technique when being fall backward. He is indeed stout against run as Jets are hungry for upgrading the DL against run.

Think a poor man's Kentwan Balmer. Good size, but would be a little bit of a 'tweener in the 3-4 at either DE or NT. He does have the room to add a little bulk to his frame. Pretty good first step, stays low, and constantly keeps his body moving during the play. Disciplined and durable. Has done a good job holding his own on double-teams in East-West Shrine game practices. Good sophomore year, production slipped as a junior, pretty good senior year - 48 tackles, 8.5 TFL, 4.5 sacks, 3 recovered fumbles and blocked a kick. Probably look at in 4th-5th round range...

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#96 Chris Norwell, Illinois.
Senior Defensive Tackle.
6 6 300.

He is in the “same” group as Hayden and Moore. I have seen Moore and Hayden being pushed back but I never saw Norwell being pushed back. Despite being natural run stuffer he is able to penetrate. If Jets are able to take one or two out of this group then Jets should improve the run defense gradually. Mangini will be a moron if he does not bother to draft run stuffing DL for draft.

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#90 Darrell Robertson, Georgia Tech.
Senior Defensive End.
6 5 245.

Never mind on QB Bennett throwing down him as a result he was helped to the trainer room. He has good senior season as a pass rusher. His timed speed is questionable but his game speed looks good. He is still raw to be OLB in 3-4 scheme. If Mangini decides to have a tall and long arms OLB then Robertson may be a good value for 3rd-5th round pick. Amateur’s standard rank for this type of OLB is Crable, Robertson and Craig.

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#2 Shawn Crable, Michigan.
Senior Defensive End/ Linebacker.
6 5 245.

He has good height and arm lengths. He excels at coverage but his pass rushing is terrible. Despite playing in high level of competition he is still raw. If he impresses at the combine and pro day then he should take over Thomas’ spot at LOLB as Thomas moves to ROLB.

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#82 Angelo Craig, Cincinnati.
Senior Defensive End.
6 5 240.

He was usually pass rushing specialist until the senior season which he became a full time DE. He gave full effort against blockers which is something you don’t see from Crable. Who knows he can be another Trent Coles when NFL coaching shapes him up. Special team and pass rushing specialist to start NFL career to replace Bowens for cost efficiency.

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#7 Greyson Gunheim, Washington.
Senior Defensive End.
6 5 265.

He has experience as DE and OLB for crappy defense team. He was supposed to have a monstrous season as pass rushing DE but the defense team did not work together to be efficient so he managed to register 6.5 sacks, 11 tackles for lost, 41 tackles. All of these numbers are almost identical to his junior season. I think he could be better if he has more talented players around him. He should be a good backup OLB for Jets in his rookie contract.

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#89 Trevor Scott, Buffalo.
Senior Defensive End.
6 5 250.

He had been TE for first 3 years before converted to DE due to lack of depth for that area. All of a sudden, he has been a force for last two years at DE for the Bulls; 19 sacks, 12 qb hurries and 28.5 tackles for lost. He is a New York native.

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#54 Titus Brown, Mississippi State.
Senior Defensive End.
6 3 250.

He emerged into one of top DE in nation. He was moved from inside linebacker to defensive end after freshman season so the team could use his off the edge speed to attack qb. He ran 4.66 as OLB out of high school but today, his timed speed may need to be documented at the combine for further consideration. He may become a powerful DE in cover 2 instead of speedy OLB in 3-4 scheme within 3 years. If his timed speed is sub 4.7 then he is a solid option for Jets. I believe he played LE for them.


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#16 Tyrell Johnson, Arkansas State.
Senior Strong Safety.
6 1 200.

Don’t rule him out just because he played in Sun Belt Conference. This kid is surely a good prospect. He has good football awareness and is very stout against run. He was converted to SS from CB during collegiate progression. He loves to hit hard. He should challenge Steltz for number two SS for this draft. He is a good option if Jets and Rhodes could not agree to new contract.

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#16 Craig Steltz, Louisiana State.
Senior Strong Safety.
6 1 210.

Being stuck behind Landry for 3 years did not ruin his opportunity to be a proven SS in nation. He has been impressive as ballhawk and reaction to balls. He offered a solid run support as LSU defense is top ranked in run defense. His timed speed is susceptible but he has football smarts. Good project or a solid backup to mix of S depth as Mangini tries to dump “dumb” players and gain “smart” players for depth chart.

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#47 Corey Lynch, Appalachian State.
Senior Free Safety.
6 0 205.

He excels at coverage and tackling. He is able to read the ball behind the line like a comic book meaning he can make a tackle at the line or behind the line on outside part from FS position in no time. He is very intelligent player who can play zone coverage which Jets have struggled for many games. He is not related to John Lynch but he surely can play like him. If Jets decide that Elam is just a fluke and Smith is no more than back up role for FS then Lynch is a good option for day two. He is my number one FS for this year’s draft.

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#5 Joe Fields, Syracuse.
Senior Free Safety.
6 1 210.

Converted from QB to FS in 2006, he managed to have 4 ints each season for final 2 years. He has shown some good range and ballhawk as well as blitz skill. Jets may need S depth with blitz skill after Elam and Rhodes.

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#47 J Leman, Illinois.
Senior Middle Linebacker.
6 3 245.

He will complete the master's degree this December. Not only today's game Leman played very well against OSU, he made 19 tackles and was part of team that held OSU to 17 points and 224 total yards last year. Despite lack of timed speed, he has good range and quickness to be a force. He wont be a MLB in T/C 2 for NFL. 3-4 defense MLB is a good chance for him. Problem is that DT Chris Norwell who is very stout against run makes Leman looks all star. Next Farrior?


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#56 Ezra Bulter, Nevada.
Senior Weak Outside Linebacker.
6 2 248.

He was moved to ROLB from DE in 2005 when Wolfpack converted to 3-4 defense. He has done well as a sack artist and tackler in that position. He has good straightway and change of direction speed. I think He may need to work on coverage and shred the blocker off a little more because of NFL competition. Jets are in hunt for pass rushing ROLB to replace Hobson and Bulter is only natural ROLB coming from college. Do a math.

RED FLAG: Been suspended two games for violating team rule.

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#33 Hilee Taylor, North Carolina.
Senior Defensive End.
6 3 246.

After I looked around for Beau Bell I found this dude. I dont know what is his speed but the words said he could push 300 lbs OL back and he could went untouched to have at least qb hurry. Coverage and speed are clearly questionable as of right now but his idols are Jason Taylor and Lawrence Taylor as he wants to be like them. High character kid who is a quiet guy. Since Bell and Bulter are exposed to scouts for first round contest Taylor should be our new sleeper OLB.

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#64 Kirk Elder, Texas A&M.
Senior Quick Guard.
6 5 307.

Texas A&M is a run-oriented team so I guess that quick guard and left guard are the same position. He is a vet who has good athleticism and quickness among with mauling attitude. He has shown some ability as a pass protector. I figure if Jets could not find a replacement at LG via free agency and Bender may be cut or reserve OL for Jets. Elder is a good pick for Jets to solve LG problem.


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#20 Patrick Lee, Auburn.
Senior Cornerback.
6 0 203.



After Gibbs took over the DC and secondary coach for Auburn, Patrick has been impressed everyone. Before this year, he was merely special team and nickel player and there was no reason why should he be a full time starter. New DC wanted DB to be more aggressive on physical and plays as a result Lee responded it by non stop conditioning and practice hard during preseason practice and won the starting job. I think he leads the team in PB and INT. He is able to do a kickoff return duty. He has good speed. Granted, it is only a season as a full time starter and he is still raw but the way he works his arse off to be successful player I think Mangini will like him. Lee saved the scouts' "wasting their time" when they came to study King Dunlap who has been disappointed as scouts start paying attention on Lee.

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#13 Charles Godfrey, Iowa.
Senior Cornerback.
6 1 208.

Godfrey is a tackling machine converted CB who has impressed us with his cover ability. Possibly run sub 4.4 in forty. Revis and Godfrey are very similar. Jets would love to have "twin" cbs on the field. If there is something a twitch on him as a corner then he can switch back to FS that is also needed to be upgraded if necessary. Godfrey can give us some flexible and easily replaces Barrett for his role.



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#89 John Carlson, Norte Dame.
Senior Tight End.
6 5 255.

Chris Baker made an unusual jab on the press. Shame on him. Anyway, Carlson runs a good vertical routing with decent speed. With Sharpely start this weekend and possibly rest of the season, Carlson's disappointing statistic will be forgettable. Carlson is considered one of top TEs for this year's draft. I doubt he has good blocking skill but at least he is a potential game change TE for NFL.

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#77 Pedro Sosa, Rutgers.
Senior Offensive Tackle.
6 5 305.

He was executed in Texas for a cop's murder in execution style. Oh my bad, he was seemingly popular in Google. :roll: Anyway, He is currently starting at LT for Rutgars. Rutgars rarely gave up a sack as well as their strength in run game. NJ native should have no problem to play inside left side between Ferguson and Mangold.

RED FLAG: Suspended two games for violating team rules as he drove a vehicle with suspended license.

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#12 Adarius Bowman, Oklahoma State.
Senior Wide Receiver.
6 4 230.

After you watched thin but tall WR Burress slapped a puny 5 10 CB Dyson silly for a simple touchdown, you may like to have someone not McCareins to do that for Jets. According to "I'm 40. Take on me" Gundy, Bowman has possibly about 4 percent of body fat with solid hands and balance. He returned from out of season injury to have a 1000 catching yards a season with below average QB Reid at the helm. That is something Jets may ponder about especially with Pennington at helm. Adding his monstrous size and skill to Jets will help Coles and Cotchery to produce something dangerous on offense as well as it may improve to camoflague the offensive game calling.

RED FLAG: Dismissed from UNC for marijuana possession.

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#77 Jake Long, Michigian.
Senior Left Tackle.
6 6 320.

It is his second consecutive year as a full time starter at LT. He has experience at both Tackles and is athletic enough to play powerball at LT as well as he has strength to control the right side although he had not played at RT for a whille. He is battle-tested player in high level competition. Since he may be a lock for top 5 and Jets continue playing poor I cant see any reason why Jets pass on him except McFadden's avail, of course.


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#77 Gosder Cherilus, Boston College.
Senior Left Tackle.
6 7 318.

He was a natural RT before shifting to LT for this season which may hurt his stock. He has struggled at LT because he lacks of laternal movement and quickness. However, he is still strong enough to play RT in NFL. For some reasons, Parcells/Bellicheck family loved OL from Boston College and if Mangini inherits the family taste then Cherilus could be picked by Jets in 3rd round if available.

RED FLAG: He may be under arrested anytime since he was allegedly involved in bar fight before this season began.

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#74 Kirk Barton, Ohio State.
Senior Right Tackle.
6 7 325.

He has reputition for staying at pass protecting for long time. Decent size RT who has been careful with choosing the words since he created a buzz about he suggested OSU to start Smith instead of Zwick. High character on field and off field. He is a battle-tested player, obviously. What could go wrong with OSU player? hmm.

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#97 Frank Okam, Texas.
Senior Defensive Tackle.
6-5 320.

The guy is a BEAST! Plain and simple. A very smart kid with a 3.9 GPA and honors who could have easily come out last season but decided to stay in for his senior year. Something the Tangini crew likes to see. Also a excellent role model off the field getting involved in community service and staying out of trouble. Has been a driving force in the line for UT and is more than just a run stuffer, he can actually get pressure on the QB. This guy can come in and play and can show instant impact on the D.

RED FLAG: Lazy.

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#89 Greg Carr, Florida State.
Junior Wide Receiver.
6 6 215.

Never mind what had happened to FSU' offense in two years before. He is a truly red target WR. He may be a good steal mid rounder if he skips his senior campaign because many teams will focus on Bowman, Sweed, Monks, Urriantia, Kelly or even Hardy for first 2 rounds. Alot of us whine about McCareins' performance so Carr should take over McCareins' role although the popular choices are Smith and Stuckey.




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#49 Sedrick Ellis, Southern California.
Senior Defensive Tackle.
6 1 305.

I watched few plays on him last night. I got to say that this dude is the one Mangini has been looking for. He bench-pressed more than 500 lbs. He has used his arms very well. He probably runs sub 5 forty. He read the ball very well which that means once he is pushed back he will abandon the battle and runs around to follow the ballcarrier. He should save Vilma's sorry butt. The size is light but remember he is a lock for first round so you dont want to have a "size ready" lazy bum for big money. He will add some weight on him with NFL conditioning

He underwent arthroscopic surgery on his left knee that he injured during lightwork drill before the season began. He looks okay to me.

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#18 Jacob Tamme, Kentucky.
Senior Tight End.
6 5 240.

I believe few of you guys had pledged for Jets to sign Cooley as a free agent after this season but he just signed to extended contract with Redskins.

Tamme has a possibly top notch speed and reliable hands as a TE. If he maintains to clock 4.5 in forty then he could be seen as a WR or a 3rd down or short yardage power RB/FB which will qualify Tamme as a versatile player Mangini covets. He could challenge Ryan and Kozlowski for that spot but the biggest knock on him is a poor blocking skill.

If Mangini plans to ulitize schemes that fit with Clemens' strength then he has to add hand threatening TE to side with Baker because Clemens came from the west coast where TE has been popularily ulitized. Clemens' holding the football too much may be blamed on old fashioned 2 WR set because Coles and Cotchery did not get themselves open frequently. Clemens may need 3 or 4 sure handed receivers downfield to get rid of football quicker.

Not to mention, he has played very well as ST.


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#54 Quentin Groves, Auburn.
Senior Defensive End.
6 4, 250.

Workout wonder who possibly runs sub 4.5 in forty. He may be the Bryan Thomas clone. Saying no more since he is clearly a popular choice by this forum.

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#74 Michael Oher, Ole Miss.
Junior Offensive Tackle.
6 6, 325.

One of the top offensive lineman coming into next years draft is considered to be one of the most athletic players of his weight and height class ever. Michael truly shoes how neglected kids in the ghettos and places where they cannot preform to their potential truly deserve second chances in life. Oher grew up with out a bed for the majority of his life and finally found a home under a coach at the school and lived in their house. Durring basketball season Oher rode the bench not because he couldn't dunk the ball, but because of his amazing athletic ability desired to be Like Michael Jordan saying he was the best point gaurd and shooting threes and hitting fade away shots. Going into college he had very little experience at playing football. Starting in his Junior year, and then into his senior Oher played Offensive line starting at RT and then moving to LT in his senior year.


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#92 Dre Moore, Maryland.
Senior Defensive Tackle.
6 4, 311.

Very strong and athletic player. Has NT experience in the 3-4. Plays against top competition. One of the strongest players on the team. Has fairly good size for the position. Good against the run. Needs to improve technique and play with better leverage. Might need to bulk up a little to play NT in the pros.

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#34 Avery Roberson, Georgia Tech.
Senior Defensive Back.
6 2, 200.


He is very good run stopper. Jets have problem with run defense. This kid is big and stout. Eyeing for ballcarrier very well. He has played as special team and backup DB prior to last year which he had started 9 in 13 games. He is versatile with natural run support which is greatly upgraded to either Coleman. I am not sure about his coverage skill but I dont expect him to be NFL starter every week.

Steelers had a great run defense because Cowher kept collecting run stopping DBs. 3 lines force (DL, LB and DB) not just 1 or 2 line force like what Jets are sitting on right now.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel the need to sticky this thread and change the name a little. Good idea. I wasn't even thinking of this so early in the season. I like where your head is at QJ.
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I really dont see the need to stock up on DB's at the moment we drafted Revis for a reason and that is to start games. We have Rhodes Coleman and Dyson all capable starters. Along with that Miller and as much as I hate Poteat he is a decent Fillin at nickle situations. If he is a depth pick in the late rounds i think that is fine, I really have little idea who he is though. I think picking up an UDFA or a FA for the veterans minimum would be a better option to this
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Dman515 wrote:
I really dont see the need to stock up on DB's at the moment we drafted Revis for a reason and that is to start games. We have Rhodes Coleman and Dyson all capable starters. Along with that Miller and as much as I hate Poteat he is a decent Fillin at nickle situations. If he is a depth pick in the late rounds i think that is fine, I really have little idea who he is though. I think picking up an UDFA or a FA for the veterans minimum would be a better option to this


who is stout against run?

Barrett- physical cb(tackling) and a plenty of cushion provider.
Rhodes- free style attack.
Coleman- tackling machine but is not hard nose at line.
Miller- physical cb but not stout enough against run as of now.
Washington- hard hitter.
Revis- shutdown cb with run support.
dyson- super coverage.
D.Coleman- better coverage.
Smith- Supposedly run stopper but injury prevent him from unveil himself.

I believe Coleman is at his contact year. Also, you can shave Barrett or Dyson or both off if Miller is ready to be starter so there may be a room for Roberson.

I like the notion of having Miller, Smith and Roberson to aid the run defense when they are mature.
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If u look at what I said I never mentioned that we had a true run stopper at the CB positions, I was just saying its not gonna be as big of a need as other positions. With Harris developing into hopefully a pure run stuffer and tackling machine next to Vilma, and Revis as well as Dyson being full tyme men by the end of this season barring injury. It is shown that we have depth at these positions as well. I feel that we have bigger needs to fill OG, DE, DT, WR, 3RB,
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I always thought Miller was good at stopping the run. He is a big hitter and very physical.
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I always thought Miller was good at stopping the run. He is a big hitter and very physical.


He could be but right now, even though he hits very hard for a CB, he's not the greatest tackler in the world.
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Dman515 wrote:
If u look at what I said I never mentioned that we had a true run stopper at the CB positions, I was just saying its not gonna be as big of a need as other positions. With Harris developing into hopefully a pure run stuffer and tackling machine next to Vilma, and Revis as well as Dyson being full tyme men by the end of this season barring injury. It is shown that we have depth at these positions as well. I feel that we have bigger needs to fill OG, DE, DT, WR, 3RB,


You also need to look at the originial post for roberson. It said Jets had problem with run defense and Jets should go with 3 line force instead of front line or front line and LB. Once Jets have 3 line force set, they will spread out the defense more aggressively like Steelers did under Cowher.

I spoke of DB not just CB.
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On Dre Moore, I usually like Maryland products just because of physical presence. After I watched Maryland vs Villiniona something game, I changed my mind regarding him because he was awful slow and lazy.

When the game is viewed by the box instead of field level camera, You can see Moore because he is the biggest one in the line and it will bother you because he reminds you of a lab rat without smell. I say Pass on him.
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quietjets wrote:
On Dre Moore, I usually like Maryland products just because of physical presence. After I watched Maryland vs Villiniona something game, I changed my mind regarding him because he was awful slow and lazy.

When the game is viewed by the box instead of field level camera, You can see Moore because he is the biggest one in the line and it will bother you because he reminds you of a lab rat without smell. I say Pass on him.


Yea I had a feeling he had a work ethic issue but I wasn't sure so I left it out. I'll have to pay more attention to that because he's got great potential at NT. Hopefully his effort picks up.
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Oher will be top OG off the board easily in either this or next year's draft.

He already has polished techiques to play in NFL. He needs to watch his weight because Mangini does not like to spend day one pick on flabby lineman. Solid run blocking and mauler as I hope he can do better at pass protecting so he can give Mangini some flexible because Mangini likes Bender as well. LG or RG or RT or even LT. It would be better than any perfect murder.
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In my Sociology class we are going to read a book about Michael Oher. Apparently he was 1 of 13 but it was 13 different dads and he grew up on the streets with just a mom. They found him because of his size and he is a natural at OG.
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In my Sociology class we are going to read a book about Michael Oher. Apparently he was 1 of 13 but it was 13 different dads and he grew up on the streets with just a mom. They found him because of his size and he is a natural at OG.


I've read the book by Michael Lewis. It's called Blinde Side: Evolution of a Game. I would recommend it to any football fan, but Oher is going to be playing OT.

He is a natural LT coming out of high school and was moved to RG because that was easiest position on the line and he was having trouble picking up the scheme and technique. He was just used to destroying his opponents with pure physical dominance.

Oher is more then athletic enough to be an OT in this league. Read the book. He was touted as the next Jonathan Ogden coming out of high school. Also, by the way, once he had a proper education they found he had an Above Average IQ (when he first took the IQ test he scored borderline retarded).

I'm a big fan of Michael Oher. Believe me when I say this that he is a rare physical specimen that you need to watch out for.
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He already has an autobiography book? Wow. I guess he used this money to support his education.

If he still struggles with acedemic and comes out early then he wont be a Jet, unfortunately. In his case, I strongly encourage him to stay for senior year so he has plenty of choices if not football.
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