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jetsfan4life51


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Overrated/Underrated Reply with quote

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10205109

He has Chad overrated and Rhodes underrated.

I think Eric Barton and Shaun Ellis are better picks for underrated and D'Brick is a better pick for overrated. Well atleast from this site. A lot of people know Kerry Rhodes, it's just that the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest, and Lynch gets his due from the league. Shaun Ellis is a captain. Week in and week out he performs. Eric Barton makes as many plays as Vilma, but doesn't get the recognition. How is Chad overrated? Because he proved everyone wrong and exceeded expectations? No one is calling him a Super Bowl caliber QB. Now in Ferguson's case, I think he's going to be great, but a lot of people are picking him over McNeil, who clearly had the better season.


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Arizona Cardinals
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LB Gerald Hayes. Now that Adrian Wilson has finally gone to the Pro Bowl, it's Hayes who gets the slot here. He was a force in the middle as a 4-3 middle linebacker, and should be just as good in the Cardinals' 3-4 defense.


Totally agree on Gerald Hayes, nobody knows who he is.

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Baltimore Ravens
Overrated

RB Willis McGahee. Blame the Bills line all you want, but this guy just hasn't performed like a star back.

Underrated

NT Kelly Gregg. He is a short keg-like body in the middle of the defense who helps keep the linebackers clean to flow to the football. He does the dirty work inside.


Completely true for both.

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Jacksonville Jaguars
Underrated

DT John Henderson. For whatever reason, he doesn't get the due he deserves. Maybe it's because he plays next to Marcus Stroud.


I think Daryl Smith is more underrated than Henderson.

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Miami Dolphins
Overrated

LB Joey Porter. And it isn't even close. Why they paid him all that money is a great mystery


Thank You!!

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New Orleans Saints
Underrated

G Jahri Evans. As a rookie, he didn't give up a sack. That's high marks for a young lineman.


I bet not too many know him either. Maybe Jacob Bender can have a season like Evans. Pray

Feel free to post your own underrated/overrated for each team. I will sometime today.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prisco is a moron..He always critcizes every move the Jets make and what the Jets got...Pennington OVERATED.Hes underrated..its not always about stats..Chad carried this team all the way thru the playoffs and provided this young team with leadership.....Chad knows how to WIN...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetsfan4life51's Overrated/Underrated Players, NFL Edition

Arizona Cardinals
Overrated: Chike Okeafor DE. Sometimes I feel people think he is really good. I think he's just above average.
Underrated: Gerald Hayes LB. In 14 games he had 93 tackles, 1 sack and 3 INTs. He's got the size to play in the 3-4 for as well.

Atlanta Falcons
Overrated: Chris Crocker S. Cleveland did the smart thing and now have two emerging players at S. Jimmy Williams should start over him.
Underrated: Michael Boley LB. Improved a lot over his sophmore season registering 12 more tackles, 3 more sacks and 2 more INTs than the previous season. A lot of people think the Falcons need LB help, but don't realize that Boley is good.

Baltimore Ravens
Overrated: Willis McGahee RB. Unless he's playing the Jets he's not an elite back like people think he is. He's been riddled with injuries as well.
Derrick Mason WR. Mark Clayton is better than him, but Mason is the bigger name.
Underrated: Kelly Gregg NT. He anchors the line and lets the LBs make all the plays. No recognition, just like most NTs.
Trevor Pryce DE. He had a quiet 13 sacks. With all that talent on the team and switching between 3-4 and 4-3, how do you post 13 sacks?
Bart Scott LB. Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Adalius Thomas...who cares about Bart Scott?

Buffalo Bills
Overrated: Terrence McGee CB. A lot of people say he's a good corner but I don't see it. He's a good returner.
Underrated: JP Losman QB, Lee Evans WR, and basically the entire defense. There's too much to go into but Keith Ellison, Angelo Crowell, Aaron Schobel are good players that nobody knows.

Carolina Panthers
Overrated: Kris Jenkins DT. He hasn't done anything to be considered elite and he's always injured now.
Underrated: David Carr QB. See Pete Prisco's explanation.

Chicago Bears
Overrated: Alex Brown DE. I really like Alex Brown and I think he's a solid player but he hasn't posted more than 7 sacks in a season. Good DE's get double digit sacks.
Adam Archuletta S. That's a given.
Underrated: Brian Griese QB. If he was QB it's possible the Bears are champs and not the Colts.
Adrian Peterson RB. He's the best 3rd string back in the league. Now he'll have a bigger role with Thomas Jones gone. Bears fans think he has the talent and ability to start on some teams.

Cincinnati Bengals
Overrated: Delta O'Neal CB. Stole it from Prisco, couldn't think of anyone else. He was more of a "right place at the right time" kind of guy in 2005.
Underrated: Robert Geathers DE. Not a full time starter but had 10.5 sacks.
Domato Peko DT. Wish we drafted him last year to play NT. Probably the best/only run stuffer on the team.

Cleveland Browns
Overrated: Jamal Lewis RB. He's not going to help them out much. He should be putting up over 1500 yards.
Underrated: Andra Davis LB. Still no Pro Bowl for him?
Sean Jones S. Had a season like Kerry Rhodes and was snubbed like Kerry Rhodes.

Dallas Cowboys
Overrated: Tony Romo QB. HE HAS DONE NOTHING! Pro Bowl? That's absurd. Vince Young deserved the Pro Bowl more than Romo.
Roy Williams S. Just convert him to LB.
A few of their OL are overrated as well.
Underrated: The entire front 7. Including a few backups.

Denver Broncos
Overrated:Dre Bly CB. I guess it's just me but I was never big on him.
Underrated: Ian Gold LB. I've always liked Gold, but maybe he's not that underrated. I never hear people talk about him though. The OL can be considered as well.

Detroit Lions
Overrated: Kevin Jones RB. What happened to you? Definetly not worth the 1st round pick. Hit a hole and run hard, don't dance around and hope for something to happen.
Underrated: Cory Redding DT. Had a great year but has Shaun Rogers next to him.

Green Bay Packers
Overrated: Greg Jennings WR. Did absolutely nothing after Week 5 but Packers fans think he's amazing. 3 TDs and a 101 and 105 yard game.
Underrated: Al Harris CB. Just ask Hasselback.

Houston Texans
Overrated: Morlon Greenwood LB. He has good numbers because the defense isn't good.
Underrated: Charles Spencer LT. He was becoming a great LT for the Texans until he suffered a horrible injury.

Indianapolis Colts
Overrated: Bob Sanders S. I understand how he helps out the team but stay on the field and try to grab more than 1 INT a year before you are crowned elite by everyone.
Underrated: Dallas Clark TE. Couldn't really think of anyone, Prisco did a good job with that.

Jacksonville Jaguars
Overrated: Reggie Williams WR. Every year is supposed to be a breakout for him.
Underrated: Daryl Smith LB. Great player surrounded by big names.

Kansas City Chiefs
Overrated: Ty Law, Pat Surtain CB and Greg Wesley S. It's not that they are that overrated, they are getting old and not performing well.
Underrated: Tamba Hali DE. Better than Mark Anderson because he plays 3 downs and isn't just a pass rusher. 8 sacks, 5 FF and an INT for the rook.

Miami Dolphins
Overrated: Joey Porter LB. 3-4 OLBs are supposed to put up great numbers. The Pittsburgh system should have gave him 20 sacks a year. Instead he couldn't get over 10.5. Now he's considered one of the best signings. He's only good at trash talking and fighting at casinos.
Underrated: Ronnie Brown RB. Give him blocking.
Channing Crowder LB. I think you Jets fans should know his name. If not you will learn it soon.

Minnesota Vikings
Overrated: Bryant McKinnie LT. See Pete Prisco's explanation.
Underrated: Kevin and Pat Williams DT. They are monsters up the middle. The reason that run defense was so nasty.

New England Patriots
Overrated: Wes Welker WR. What the hell did he do to garner a 2nd round pick? He's a decent slot guy and returner.
Underrated: Ty Warren DE. I don't know who else to pick. I think he's getting his due now but he used to be heavily underrated.

New Orleans Saints
Overrated: Charles Grant DE. If he was consistant he could have a lot more sacks.
Underrated: Jahri Evans OG. Helped protect Drew Brees and pave the way for Deuce and Reggie. Not many people know of him because he was a rookie.

New York Giants
Overrated: Brandon Jacobs RB. He needs to be more consistent with his power. One play he'll truck 3 guys, then some whimpy DB will take him down. Giants fans think he can carry the load like Tiki.
Plaxico Burress WR. Soooo much talent but he doesn't try. I wouldn't want him on my team. Give an effort and maybe your QB will look decent.
Underrated: Chris Snee OG, Shaun O'Hara C, Kareem McKenzie RT. They make up for a terrific right side of the line. Snee is the most underrated out of the 3.

New York Jets
Overrated:D'Brickashaw Ferguson LT. I love him but he gets a lot of love by the forum. McNeil is better.
Underrated: Eric Barton LB. If he stayed in Oakland he would probably be a bigger name.
Kerry Rhodes S. That's a given to Jets fans.

Oakland Raiders
Overrated: Dominic Rhodes RB. He isn't a number 1 back, and there are probably a bunch of number 2's I would take over him.
Underrated: Kirk Morrison LB. The leader of the young Raiders defense. Had a great rookie season and started making bigger plays this season.

Philadelphia Eagles
Overrated: Darren Howard DE. Two guys, Trent Cole and Juqua Thomas, who weren't going to get much time had more sacks than you. You are capable of 11 sacks.
Underrated: Trent Cole DE. Had more sacks than Howard, could start for a few teams.

Pittsburgh Steelers
Overrated: Ben Roethlisberger QB. He had a terrific defense, OL and RB tandem that carried him to the Super Bowl. Plus he had the refs on his side. When he throws over 20 passes he SUCKS.
Ike Taylor CB. Steeler fans talked him up a boatload after '05 and he really *explicit* the bed in '06.
Underrated: Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel DL. Combined for 10 sacks. They both put up good numbers considering they are in a 3-4 defense. Now Hampton gets the recognition for anchoring the line.

St. Louis Rams
Overrated: Randy McMichael TE. He can't catch a cold.
Underrated: Leonard Little DE. He's one of the best DE's in the game but doesn't get Peppers or Freeney recognition. He's forced 9, 7 and 6 fumbles in 3 different seasons. One season he averaged over a sack per game.

San Diego Chargers
Overrated: Keenan McCardell WR. He's clearly lost a step, and there's nobody else to pick Smile.
Underrated: The OL. LT gets all the recognition, and he should, but the line deserves credit. One of the best lines in the league, and very young.
Igor Olshansky and Luis Castillo DL. Both help make the Chargers a formidable defense. Very strong and overpowering. Merriman gets all the credit but Igor and Castillo open up opportunities for him.

San Francisco 49ers
Overrated: Vernon Davis TE. He's got all the potential in the world, but he hasn't been able to show that he's a Top 5 TE.
Underrated: Brandon Moore LB. He has become the leader of the defense and just kept making plays. He will be next to Willis and Lawson, Oh my!

Seattle Seahawks
Overrated: Nate Burleson WR. Why did Seattle give him all that money? Now Shaun Alexander ain't looking so well. Could have used it on Hutch.
Underrated: Leroy Hill LB. With Pro Bowl material in Julian Peterson and Lofa Tatupu at LB, Leroy Hill gets lost in the mix. Had 7.5 sacks as a rookie.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Overrated: Jeff Garcia QB. He needs the right system and Marty Mourningwhig(sp).
Underrated: Alex Smith TE. He needs to start over Anthony Becht right away.

Tennessee Titans
Overrated: Chris Brown RB. Has never played a full season. Had a promising sophmore season but hasn't done anything since.
Underrated: Michael Roos LT. Starting to develop into a very reliable LT, not many people know of him.

Washington Redskins
Overrated: Antwaan Randle El and Brandon Lloyd WR. What have they done to get all of that money??
Underrated: Kedric Gholston DT. He will probably be the best defensive lineman on the team next season.

I happen to agree with a lot of the guys Prisco put up, I tried to give different names but a lot are similar, and I realize some may be stretches.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you explain the Mcgahee overrated logic to me? "say what you want about the bills o-line, but he still hasnt gotten it done"? that makes no sense...he hasnt gotten it done because of the o-line. lets take a look at edgerin james and see if we still blame mcgahee for his lack of success.
its not mcgahees fault he had a bad line; if he had a good one we wouldnt be having this overrated talk right now. a runningback cannot control whos in front of him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty good list, but I just disagree with a few things.

Overrated

Vernon Davis - Hasn't had a chance to prove himself, and it's too early for him to be overrated.

D'Brickashaw Ferguson - More of a problem with the explanation. Just because we like him doesn't mean we think he's awesome. And I doubt that anyone here has argued that he was better than McNeil last year.

Bob Sanders - Picking off passes isn't his thing. It's not his main job. The guy does need to stay healthy though.


Underrated

Trevor Price - No doubt he had a phenomenal year but with a supporting cast like that, you can't really give him all the credit.


Totally agree with:
Ike Taylor, Big Ben, Romo, Bly, Surtain, Porter, Welker, Burress, Howard, Randle El.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-E-T-S wrote:
Pretty good list, but I just disagree with a few things.

Overrated

Vernon Davis - Hasn't had a chance to prove himself, and it's too early for him to be overrated.

D'Brickashaw Ferguson - More of a problem with the explanation. Just because we like him doesn't mean we think he's awesome. And I doubt that anyone here has argued that he was better than McNeil last year.

Bob Sanders - Picking off passes isn't his thing. It's not his main job. The guy does need to stay healthy though.


Underrated

Trevor Price - No doubt he had a phenomenal year but with a supporting cast like that, you can't really give him all the credit.


Totally agree with:
Ike Taylor, Big Ben, Romo, Bly, Surtain, Porter, Welker, Burress, Howard, Randle El.


I said a few were stretches, Bob Sanders being one of them.

D'Brick is also a stretch, us Jets fans don't overrated him, however the rest of the forum chose him over Marcus McNeil. I was being picky and I needed someone.

Vernon Davis is being dubbed a top 5 TE. He has that potential, but he hasn't done anything to be considered top 10 yet. After the season I expect that to change.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetsfan4life51 wrote:
J-E-T-S wrote:
Pretty good list, but I just disagree with a few things.

Overrated

Vernon Davis - Hasn't had a chance to prove himself, and it's too early for him to be overrated.

D'Brickashaw Ferguson - More of a problem with the explanation. Just because we like him doesn't mean we think he's awesome. And I doubt that anyone here has argued that he was better than McNeil last year.

Bob Sanders - Picking off passes isn't his thing. It's not his main job. The guy does need to stay healthy though.


Underrated

Trevor Price - No doubt he had a phenomenal year but with a supporting cast like that, you can't really give him all the credit.


Totally agree with:
Ike Taylor, Big Ben, Romo, Bly, Surtain, Porter, Welker, Burress, Howard, Randle El.


I said a few were stretches, Bob Sanders being one of them.

D'Brick is also a stretch, us Jets fans don't overrated him, however the rest of the forum chose him over Marcus McNeil. I was being picky and I needed someone.

Vernon Davis is being dubbed a top 5 TE. He has that potential, but he hasn't done anything to be considered top 10 yet. After the season I expect that to change.


Well if that's true then you were right to put him in the overrated column.
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