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cjfollett


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Top players you do not want at all Reply with quote

If you look at the different top 15-20 ranked players from various signts, who are some players you don't want at #15 or even in the 1st round at all?

Off the top of my head, I have to say I don't want:
Timmons (high bust potential)
Moss (not a good fit for the Steelers)
Ginn (might be a decent WR eventually, but I see Dante Hall clone)
Hall (good but not great, and we have that already)
Branch (major bust potential)
Russell or Quinn (obviously)
Lynch (I've gone back and forth on him)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: Top players you do not want at all Reply with quote

[quote="cjfollett"]If you look at the different top 15-20 ranked players from various signts, who are some players you don't want at #15 or even in the 1st round at all?

Off the top of my head, I have to say I don't want:
Timmons (high bust potential)
Moss (not a good fit for the Steelers)
Ginn (might be a decent WR eventually, but I see Dante Hall clone)
Hall (good but not great, and we have that already)
Branch (major bust potential)
Russell or Quinn (obviously)
Lynch (I've gone back and forth on him)[/quote


Timmons-second coming of alonzo jackson
Moss - Cant fit
Ginn - another devin hester man without a position
hall-Looks like chad scott 2
branch-doesnt make any sense
lynch issues and more of a zone blocking rb
poz may not be effective at olb
revis-we have a punt returner and a good db can be found later
jarret we have posession wr
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Jamal Lewis seems to be a real uphill runner now. That's a problem. Downhill runners are preferred. Maybe he is running in the wrong direction. Espn DJ Gallo
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Larry Stavish


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Ginn
2. Branch
3. Bush
4. Buster Davis
5. Jarret
6. Lynch
7. Any Center
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CJ
Joe Thomas
Jamarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Gaines Adams
Laron Landry

I dont want to pay any of them.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spush wrote:
CJ
Joe Thomas
Jamarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Gaines Adams
Laron Landry

I dont want to pay any of them.


why wouldnt you want CJ or Adams?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: hmm Reply with quote

VanSlyke18 wrote:
spush wrote:
CJ
Joe Thomas
Jamarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Gaines Adams
Laron Landry

I dont want to pay any of them.


why wouldnt you want CJ or Adams?


The steelers dont want to and dont need to absorb those contracts
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: hmm Reply with quote

STELRFAN wrote:
VanSlyke18 wrote:
spush wrote:
CJ
Joe Thomas
Jamarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Gaines Adams
Laron Landry

I dont want to pay any of them.


why wouldnt you want CJ or Adams?


The steelers dont want to and dont need to absorb those contracts


Of course they want to. No team needs to.

Just know that one of them on the Steelers would likely mean that Faneca has been dealt. Frees up alot of cap.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynch
Moss
Timmons
Jarrett
Bowe
Blalock
Merriweather
the other S from a FL school, blanking on his name right now

Hall
Revis

Those are the ones that come to mind.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: hmm Reply with quote

STELRFAN wrote:
VanSlyke18 wrote:
spush wrote:
CJ
Joe Thomas
Jamarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Gaines Adams
Laron Landry

I dont want to pay any of them.


why wouldnt you want CJ or Adams?


The steelers dont want to and dont need to absorb those contracts


Thank you
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: hmm Reply with quote

VanSlyke18 wrote:
STELRFAN wrote:
VanSlyke18 wrote:
spush wrote:
CJ
Joe Thomas
Jamarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Gaines Adams
Laron Landry

I dont want to pay any of them.


why wouldnt you want CJ or Adams?


The steelers dont want to and dont need to absorb those contracts


Of course they want to. No team needs to.

Just know that one of them on the Steelers would likely mean that Faneca has been dealt. Frees up alot of cap.


reason for a second hmm faneca being traded means 4.5 millon cap hit because his contract would be accelerated. So they would actually loose cap space
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is Timmons the second coming of jackson seriously? There is no reason not to love this guy. Timmons hits like a freight train, he is excellent in coverage and run stopping, he attacks the line of scrimmage rather than waiting for the play to come to him and he is one of the most athletic players in this draft. If coached right, this guy is going to be an absolute monster. He can play the 43 and 34 defense and would be an excellent fit with the Steelers. His only negatives are that he is a little undersized and that he does not always read the play and relies on his instincts too often. He can easily gain some weight and bulk up and the more experience he gets, the more he will learn to read the plays. Florida State is known for producing great Linebackers as well. There is no doubt in my mind that if he stayed another season, we would be talking about Timmons in the top 10 in next years draft. And yes he has a high bust potential but Jamaal Anderson has a huge one too and yet everybody loves him even though he has no fit in out system. Timmons will be the Steelers selection (whether at 15 or a trade down a few spots, I don't know) and he will be a damn good one
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Leon Hall
2. Ted Ginn
3. Marshawn Lynch


My Bold Predicition: If Alan Branch falls past #20, he will be the steal of the steal of the 1st round (if you can call a 1st round pick a steal). Too bad the Steelers don't have much room for him unless they switch to a 4-3.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: hmm Reply with quote

Steelers22 wrote:
How is Timmons the second coming of jackson seriously? There is no reason not to love this guy. Timmons hits like a freight train, he is excellent in coverage and run stopping, he attacks the line of scrimmage rather than waiting for the play to come to him and he is one of the most athletic players in this draft. If coached right, this guy is going to be an absolute monster. He can play the 43 and 34 defense and would be an excellent fit with the Steelers. His only negatives are that he is a little undersized and that he does not always read the play and relies on his instincts too often. He can easily gain some weight and bulk up and the more experience he gets, the more he will learn to read the plays. Florida State is known for producing great Linebackers as well. There is no doubt in my mind that if he stayed another season, we would be talking about Timmons in the top 10 in next years draft. And yes he has a high bust potential but Jamaal Anderson has a huge one too and yet everybody loves him even though he has no fit in out system. Timmons will be the Steelers selection (whether at 15 or a trade down a few spots, I don't know) and he will be a damn good one


I dont like him as their pick id rather they take beason he only had one season as a starter same could be said for anderson but something about him screams alonzo jackson
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 2 strikes against Timmons in my eyes.
1. He only weighs 230 Lbs. That's far to light to be a 3-4 LB.
2. His experience, He's only started 1 season.

Now if we go to the 4-3 he would be a decent LB, but in that argument I'd rather draft Defensive ends like Tim Crowder and Jamaal Anderson. Also, In a 4-3 you probably don't want your biggest front 7 contract on a 230Lb Linebacker on the weakside. Pay the DE's and DT's. Form your D around the Line.

Some believe he could be a 3-4 OLB. Unless we got a monster LB backing him up like Kirkland or Kendrel Bell, his lack of size is more likely to be a hindrance in stopping the run.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

SMashMouthMike wrote:
There are 2 strikes against Timmons in my eyes.
1. He only weighs 230 Lbs. That's far to light to be a 3-4 LB.
2. His experience, He's only started 1 season.

Now if we go to the 4-3 he would be a decent LB, but in that argument I'd rather draft Defensive ends like Tim Crowder and Jamaal Anderson. Also, In a 4-3 you probably don't want your biggest front 7 contract on a 230Lb Linebacker on the weakside. Pay the DE's and DT's. Form your D around the Line.

Some believe he could be a 3-4 OLB. Unless we got a monster LB backing him up like Kirkland or Kendrel Bell, his lack of size is more likely to be a hindrance in stopping the run.


Exactly dont want to see him get pushed around
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