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broncofansd


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Draft Day Trades!!!! What Denver needs to do. Reply with quote

On Sat. I think that the most important thing the Broncos can do is trade the #56 Pick and a pick next year maybe 4rth to Carolina for Kris Jenkins. This thought came to me when I heard that we might trade up and get Calvin Johnson. I thought with a late 3rd Round Pick which position is the most important for Denver to win. It was DT. I think by adding Jenkins will make Warren/Lang/Dumervill all better. Having 2 big bodies is exactly what Bates wants. Then Denver goes and drafts the following players.

#21 Pick - Robert Meachum WR Tennesee 6'2" 215 Blazing fast/great hands able to stretch the field. (The reason the Colts won the Superbowl is Harrison/Wayne/Dallas Clark/Rhodes/Adai is matchup problems that they cause.) With Walker/Meachum/Marshall/Schefler/Henry/Bell (not sure on Rod Smith's hip or Stokley's heal) Denver will have the offense to stand up to anyone.

#70 Pick - Buster Davis LB Florida St. Watch the film. That is what all the experts say. Every game I watched with Buster he was all over the place. Buster is a slightly smaller verson of Al Wilson!!!! A true Thumper!!!!


#86 Pick - James Marten Tackle Boston College. Big Tackle who can sit for a year and learn Denver's zone blocking system.


176 Pick - Ramonce Taylor RB Texas Wouldn't be a Denver draft without taking a RB

198 Pick - Tyler Palko QB Pittsburgh. Drafting a young QB to sit behind Cutler.

233 Pick - Louis Leonard DT Fresno St. Big DT to rotate in on the DLINE

My thought is by adding Kris Jenkins you get a starting DT
adding Robert Meachum you get the #2/3 reciever in the draft 71 catches/1298 yards/ 11 TDs
Heck Calvin Johnson's #'s 67 catches/1016 yards/13 touchdowns
adding Buster Davis just a excellent football player.


Kris Jenkins STARTER Major UPGRADE AT DT
Robert Meachum STARTER FUTURE 2nd RECIEVER/3rd This year
Buster Davis STARTER Or future starter
James Marten STARTER or future starter
Romance Taylor Backup RB
TYLER Palko Backup QB
Louis Leonard Backup DT

Like it or not this League is about MATCHUP PROBLEMS!!!!! Imagine 4 WR SET JAVON WALKER/ROBERT MEACHUM/ROD SMITH/BRANDON MARSHALL/STOCKLEY and Travis Henry

What does anyone think?????
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would Taylor become the team drug dealer too?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HerculesRockefe wrote:
Would Taylor become the team drug dealer too?

Yeah, that way he fills two jobs Very Happy
I wouldn't mind drafting him late though, He can return punts, kickoffs, and be a great change of pace scat-back.
I dissagree with signing a QB, Cutler is a "Young QB"! + Denver doesn't keep 3 qb's on roster.
I totally agree with getting jenkins, he will be a huge upgrade (if healthy)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

james marten does not fit our scheme. dont let his lack of bulk fool you. he does not have the foot work or athleticism to be a ZBS lineman.
ok, alot of fans just think "Light" players when it comes to ZBS but thats not the case. so i will inform you and let you see why this clumsy oaf does not fit.

the ZBS is when two or three offensive linemen work in tandem as opposed to each offensive lineman having a specific, predetermined man to block. they work in a "ZONE." the key is for two linemen to come off in unison and attack a single DL player to the play side. then as the play progresses one of them leaves and moves to the second level to block a LB. The key is for the lineman to have chemestry so they can decide who and when one of them will leave to block the linebacker. by doing this it will create a "crease" for the RB to cut back into.

now the linemen must do 4 key things for this to work:

1. They MUST stay hip to hip with each other. this is dificult to do without tripping over each other without repitions working together.
2. They also need to keep their shoulders square to the line.
3. Most importantly, they both have to keep thier eyes are on the linebacker, knowing where he is at all times.
4. finally they must comunicate with each other and know who is giong to take over the DL and who is going to move to the 2nd level.

this usually depends on the DE. if he tries to edge rush then the G moves to the 2nd level, if he spins inside then the OT moves to block the LB.

OR

if the paly calls for the DT to be double teamed (in cases of going against a 3-4) it is the C and the G who have to make the double team and the subsequent decision to move on to the second level.

now this is simply put and obviously it is much more complex than this but even with this you can see why Marten is not a good fit for us. he is a Mauler type who is best at standing his ground and knocking the guy in front of him on his [inappropriate/removed] where as in the ZBS the OT is constantly on the move, either trying to mirror the edge rusher or moving on to the second level and trying to block the LB (or in some cases the S).

so if you want to look for ZBS linemen look for these key words "Athletic", "Technician", "Agile", "Instinctive" and "Great Balance"
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

broncos_fan _from _uk wrote:
james marten does not fit our scheme. dont let his lack of bulk fool you. he does not have the foot work or athleticism to be a ZBS lineman.
ok, alot of fans just think "Light" players when it comes to ZBS but thats not the case. so i will inform you and let you see why this clumsy oaf does not fit.

the ZBS is when two or three offensive linemen work in tandem as opposed to each offensive lineman having a specific, predetermined man to block. they work in a "ZONE." the key is for two linemen to come off in unison and attack a single DL player to the play side. then as the play progresses one of them leaves and moves to the second level to block a LB. The key is for the lineman to have chemestry so they can decide who and when one of them will leave to block the linebacker. by doing this it will create a "crease" for the RB to cut back into.

now the linemen must do 4 key things for this to work:

1. They MUST stay hip to hip with each other. this is dificult to do without tripping over each other without repitions working together.
2. They also need to keep their shoulders square to the line.
3. Most importantly, they both have to keep thier eyes are on the linebacker, knowing where he is at all times.
4. finally they must comunicate with each other and know who is giong to take over the DL and who is going to move to the 2nd level.

this usually depends on the DE. if he tries to edge rush then the G moves to the 2nd level, if he spins inside then the OT moves to block the LB.

OR

if the paly calls for the DT to be double teamed (in cases of going against a 3-4) it is the C and the G who have to make the double team and the subsequent decision to move on to the second level.

now this is simply put and obviously it is much more complex than this but even with this you can see why Marten is not a good fit for us. he is a Mauler type who is best at standing his ground and knocking the guy in front of him on his - where as in the ZBS the OT is constantly on the move, either trying to mirror the edge rusher or moving on to the second level and trying to block the LB (or in some cases the S).

so if you want to look for ZBS linemen look for these key words "Athletic", "Technician", "Agile", "Instinctive" and "Great Balance"


Great post UK. I couldnt agree more. I do think that Herbert Taylor might be good in the later rounds or Barbre
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LEOship


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

broncos_fan _from _uk wrote:
james marten does not fit our scheme. dont let his lack of bulk fool you. he does not have the foot work or athleticism to be a ZBS lineman.
ok, alot of fans just think "Light" players when it comes to ZBS but thats not the case. so i will inform you and let you see why this clumsy oaf does not fit.

the ZBS is when two or three offensive linemen work in tandem as opposed to each offensive lineman having a specific, predetermined man to block. they work in a "ZONE." the key is for two linemen to come off in unison and attack a single DL player to the play side. then as the play progresses one of them leaves and moves to the second level to block a LB. The key is for the lineman to have chemestry so they can decide who and when one of them will leave to block the linebacker. by doing this it will create a "crease" for the RB to cut back into.

now the linemen must do 4 key things for this to work:

1. They MUST stay hip to hip with each other. this is dificult to do without tripping over each other without repitions working together.
2. They also need to keep their shoulders square to the line.
3. Most importantly, they both have to keep thier eyes are on the linebacker, knowing where he is at all times.
4. finally they must comunicate with each other and know who is giong to take over the DL and who is going to move to the 2nd level.

this usually depends on the DE. if he tries to edge rush then the G moves to the 2nd level, if he spins inside then the OT moves to block the LB.

OR

if the paly calls for the DT to be double teamed (in cases of going against a 3-4) it is the C and the G who have to make the double team and the subsequent decision to move on to the second level.

now this is simply put and obviously it is much more complex than this but even with this you can see why Marten is not a good fit for us. he is a Mauler type who is best at standing his ground and knocking the guy in front of him on his - where as in the ZBS the OT is constantly on the move, either trying to mirror the edge rusher or moving on to the second level and trying to block the LB (or in some cases the S).

so if you want to look for ZBS linemen look for these key words "Athletic", "Technician", "Agile", "Instinctive" and "Great Balance"


im starting to think we go with a OL in the 1st and trade up for levi
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats why UK is "The Scout" Very Happy Like I said man you always now who would do good in our system.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LEOship wrote:
broncos_fan _from _uk wrote:
james marten does not fit our scheme. dont let his lack of bulk fool you. he does not have the foot work or athleticism to be a ZBS lineman.
ok, alot of fans just think "Light" players when it comes to ZBS but thats not the case. so i will inform you and let you see why this clumsy oaf does not fit.

the ZBS is when two or three offensive linemen work in tandem as opposed to each offensive lineman having a specific, predetermined man to block. they work in a "ZONE." the key is for two linemen to come off in unison and attack a single DL player to the play side. then as the play progresses one of them leaves and moves to the second level to block a LB. The key is for the lineman to have chemestry so they can decide who and when one of them will leave to block the linebacker. by doing this it will create a "crease" for the RB to cut back into.

now the linemen must do 4 key things for this to work:

1. They MUST stay hip to hip with each other. this is dificult to do without tripping over each other without repitions working together.
2. They also need to keep their shoulders square to the line.
3. Most importantly, they both have to keep thier eyes are on the linebacker, knowing where he is at all times.
4. finally they must comunicate with each other and know who is giong to take over the DL and who is going to move to the 2nd level.

this usually depends on the DE. if he tries to edge rush then the G moves to the 2nd level, if he spins inside then the OT moves to block the LB.

OR

if the paly calls for the DT to be double teamed (in cases of going against a 3-4) it is the C and the G who have to make the double team and the subsequent decision to move on to the second level.

now this is simply put and obviously it is much more complex than this but even with this you can see why Marten is not a good fit for us. he is a Mauler type who is best at standing his ground and knocking the guy in front of him on his - where as in the ZBS the OT is constantly on the move, either trying to mirror the edge rusher or moving on to the second level and trying to block the LB (or in some cases the S).

so if you want to look for ZBS linemen look for these key words "Athletic", "Technician", "Agile", "Instinctive" and "Great Balance"


im starting to think we go with a OL in the 1st and trade up for levi


I hope not we already tried to use a big T in George Foster, if we take a linemen in the first round I hope it is Staely. He is a converted TE like Lepsis, and is athletic enough to be a Broncos linemen.
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