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ktfuehrer


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteelProven wrote:
ktfuehrer wrote:
SteelProven wrote:
RangerD wrote:
ktfuehrer wrote:
RangerD wrote:
I doubt we draft as a 3-4 team this year, though.
There will be a DE/OLB taken in the 1st or 2nd.


Yeah but it could very well be a 4-3 DE or a 4-3 LB


I just don't see Tomlin changing the defense from 3-4 to 4-3 in his first year. If he wanted to change the defense why retain LeBeau? Who's greatest defensive strength is running a 3-4. Why not just bring in a 4-3 defensive coach it he'd planned on changing it?
Tomlin doesn't want to rebuild a franchise like the Steelers. The most feasible change will be to a 3-4 hybrid in the next 2-3 seasons, then with the right players a stronger tendency to a 4-3 look around year 5.


O.k. maybe I'm not understanding something. Completely tranisistion from one defense to another to another. That's a lot of changing, drafting and FA work for that to get done. Keisel will be gone, Hampton will be gone, Smith will be gone, Foote will be gone, Farrior will be gone, Harrison will be gone, and Haggans will be gone all about 5 yrs. So if Tomlin does want to make this move he better ask the Rooneys for more FA lead way. Because stout DE and DTs don't grow on trees and most of them aren't discovered for 2-3 years after drafted. IMO
It's not so much one D, to another, to another...it's more the 3-4 is evolving (Chargers, Pats, and Ravens are probably the best examples), so that is inevitable. Then if we evolve to the 3-4 hybrid and Tomlin decides it's time to switch or Lebeau leaves, the 4-3 will be less of a bumpy road. That's how I see it.
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Cutwolf


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamaal Anderson please.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cutwolf wrote:
Jamaal Anderson please.


I was going to argue this. But if Anderson can be the Steelers version of R. Seymour I'd go along with it.
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ktfuehrer


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jamaal Anderson please.


I was going to argue this. But if Anderson can be the Steelers version of R. Seymour I'd go along with it.
Minus the injuries, who wouldn't!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer comparing Anderson to LC Greenwood
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I prefer comparing Anderson to LC Greenwood


so basically your saying the Steelers should switch to a 4-3?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No what I am saying and I am 99.999999% sure of

The Steelers will be a 43 base team by the 2008 season.

they will sprinkle in some 46 and maybe a lil 34

Why do you hire a 43 Cover 2 head coach otherwise?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StillersFury wrote:
No what I am saying and I am 99.999999% sure of

The Steelers will be a 43 base team by the 2008 season.

they will sprinkle in some 46 and maybe a lil 34

Why do you hire a 43 Cover 2 head coach otherwise?


Yep - 3-4 loyalists don't want to hear this, but I believe it's the truth.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StillersFury wrote:
No what I am saying and I am 99.999999% sure of

The Steelers will be a 43 base team by the 2008 season.

they will sprinkle in some 46 and maybe a lil 34

Why do you hire a 43 Cover 2 head coach otherwise?


the same reason they hired a 4-3 coach in 1991. The same reason a cover 2 coach converted to a 3-4 in 1983. Tomlin doesn't have to change the defense, just because he's a 4-3 guy. If the defense is working bring in some one who knows and keep it going. Don't take this as a slight I'm just not a fan of the 4-3.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteelProven wrote:
StillersFury wrote:
No what I am saying and I am 99.999999% sure of

The Steelers will be a 43 base team by the 2008 season.

they will sprinkle in some 46 and maybe a lil 34

Why do you hire a 43 Cover 2 head coach otherwise?


the same reason they hired a 4-3 coach in 1991. The same reason a cover 2 coach converted to a 3-4 in 1983. Tomlin doesn't have to change the defense, just because he's a 4-3 guy. If the defense is working bring in some one who knows and keep it going. Don't take this as a slight I'm just not a fan of the 4-3.



We'll probably still be talking about this right up until 2008! LOL! Seriously, I hope the draft sheds some light on it, one way or the other, but it might not- if we take a "tweener" who can play either 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB we still won't know for sure!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the same reason they hired a 4-3 coach in 1991.


Cowher was hired in 92 and he coached a 34 with the Chiefs

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Don't take this as a slight I'm just not a fan of the 4-3.


Dont take this wrong after the draft your not going to be happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why do you hire a 43 Cover 2 head coach otherwise?



Then why keep a 34 DC in Lebeau? If the transition were happening that soon I'd want to start fresh with my own Tampa 2 guy.
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