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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:20 am    Post subject: Trade rumors involving the #2 Pick Reply with quote

Since Nick Saban has hung his "for sale at the right price" sign on the #2 pick, I thought I'd get a thread going where we can post the rumors we come across involving trades for it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rumor that had the Cardinals sending a package of picks to Miami for the #2 pick seems to be worth the price of a wooden nickel. One of the folks on the Cardinals board rasied a very good point which essentially shot it down: Denny Green doesn't trade up in the draft as he feels it's a waste of picks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another rumor that I caught was that Philly would be sending all of their Day 1 picks (#31, #35, #63, #77, and #94) to Miami for the #2 pick.

This sounds too good to be true and most likely is.

Despite the fact that Miami is desperate for picks and this move would yield an additional 4 picks on Day 1, the values don't add up. The sum value for all of Philly's Day 1 picks is 1755 and the #2 pick is worth 2600 points. Additionally, Philly is a team that builds through the draft and would not capriciously unload so many picks just for one player.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miami's best bet for a trade during the draft would be to have the 49ers take Braylon Edwards with the first pick. This would force all of the teams who are in the market for a play-making WR to start jockeying for position for Mike Williams, who would never fall past the Bucs who pick 5th. It could also force the Bucs to trade up to land Williams who might not make it past Chicago.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't qualify as a rumor, maybe wishful thinking on the part of a talking head on Orlando sports talk radio.

Tampa Bay is trying out Alex Smith.

Gruden is not happy with Chris Sims, has Griese signed but may not see him as the team's long term QB. Doesn't have the cap room to sign all their draft picks this year.

Bucs trade the #5 (plus???) to Miami for the #2 to draft Smith before the Browns can.

My take:

How's this sound? Tampa Bay trades the #5, and this year's 2nd rounder (#36?) plus next year's 2nd rounder to Miami for the #2.

Could Ronnie Brown would be there at #5 if that's where Saban is headed? Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trade down with a team, get their 2nd round pick,

-Draft cedric benson
- Adrian McPherson, a mobile QB that can scramble out of the pocket, and also launch it down-field
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A_Dolphins_Fan wrote:
Miami's best bet for a trade during the draft would be to have the 49ers take Braylon Edwards with the first pick. This would force all of the teams who are in the market for a play-making WR to start jockeying for position for Mike Williams, who would never fall past the Bucs who pick 5th. It could also force the Bucs to trade up to land Williams who might not make it past Chicago.


This would be your best bet...and would make it very interesting
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoLFaN wrote:
trade down with a team, get their 2nd round pick,

-Draft cedric benson
- Adrian McPherson, a mobile QB that can scramble out of the pocket, and also launch it down-field

OK, that's not really a rumor...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phinfan76 wrote:
Doesn't qualify as a rumor, maybe wishful thinking on the part of a talking head on Orlando sports talk radio.

A lot of rumors get started that way. Don't sweat it.

I love that trade idea. Saban would have to be nuts if he didn't agree to that. He could take either Auburn back, Merriman, or trade down again.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I've heard about the Tampa Bay rumor several times now, seems logical, they won't have to trade too far up to choose between Braylon and Alex Smith.

Here's another. . . read on KFFL that Braylon said he would love to play back in his hometown...Detroit. So, what do you guys think of us trading down to #10...I doubt Detroit will trade down for another reciever, but its a possibility.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lions have drafted/signed plent of WRs. They wont trade anything else to moe upp and 2nd overall for 10tth overall is a bit lopsided...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A_Dolphins_Fan wrote:
Miami's best bet for a trade during the draft would be to have the 49ers take Braylon Edwards with the first pick. This would force all of the teams who are in the market for a play-making WR to start jockeying for position for Mike Williams, who would never fall past the Bucs who pick 5th. It could also force the Bucs to trade up to land Williams who might not make it past Chicago.
Thats why I see the #2 as part of the Surtain trade to KC. They would love to get Mike Williams and a CB like Surtain. If my offer isn't good enough add a draft pick or player that would make the deal a little sweeter.
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KCs picks alone wouldnt be enough for number two overall, let alone Surtain, and they have no defensive players to help us. Id rather draft an RB or trade for Henry/Alexander/Edge than get Larry Johnson, and the Chiefs wont part with one of their OL. Basically they arent getting our 2nd overall and surtain. I could see our number two overall and surtain heading to Arizona though. Perhaps something like this:

Dolphins get: 8th overall, 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder, 2nd rounder next year

Cardinals get: Surtain, 2nd overall, 5th rounder next year.

I cant see the Cards agreeing to that though as they bhave no need to trade up...

The Redskins though might want to so this is zanother idea:

Dolphins get: 9th overall, 3rd rounder(they have no second), 4th rounder, 1st rounder next year

Redskins get: 2nd iverall, Surtain.

I think both teams make off well here. We get rid of Surtain and get a 3rd and 4th, plus a 1st rounder nex year for it. They get a Cb opposite Springs and a star WR opposite Moss.

We could also try and work in Gardner, but I see Saban wanting picks over Gardner...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you think about this? true or false?

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/04/12/Bucs/Bucs_eye_top_QBs_in_d.shtml
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gruden's doing his due dilligence. He's evaluating all of the top prospects and developing a ranking in his mind. If he thinks that the QB prospects are significantly better than the other prospects that he feels will be available at the 5th pick, then he'll trade up. It's not as though he won't find any takers if he's willing to match value for the pick he wants.
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