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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Disagree that the Windies are that bad at all. There bowling attack is alot better than India's was in English conditions.

We will win this probably by 10, maybe 9 wickets but we haven't dominated the entire match. Just had great sessions that took the game away.


This is a pretty poor side.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

91jmay wrote:
Disagree that the Windies are that bad at all. There bowling attack is alot better than India's was in English conditions.

We will win this probably by 10, maybe 9 wickets but we haven't dominated the entire match. Just had great sessions that took the game away.

Yeah they haven't been that bad. There was a time at the end of the first test when we were about 50-4 after Pietersen had just got out and chasing 191. I thought we might lose it but Bell and Cook put that brilliant partnership together.

West Indies can bowl but their batting is really weak. They only really have Chanderpaul, even Sammy's ton was his first ever I think. Their top four have been really poor.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samuels has batted very well over the last 12 months, Chanders is great as well. If they had a stronger top 4 this would be a very competitive series, Chris Gayle/Sarwan would be an big boost to them.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still at a lost as to how Sammy got that ton.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is quite a talented lower order batsmen, and to be fair Broad has a hundred in tests (Harbhajan Singh does as well!) so it can happen with talented but technically flawed lower order players.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

91jmay wrote:
He is quite a talented lower order batsmen, and to be fair Broad has a hundred in tests (Harbhajan Singh does as well!) so it can happen with talented but technically flawed lower order players.


Broad at least is fairly consistent.

Sammy was pretty reckless.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah if Sammy concentrates he would be a better batsmen. He shouldn't be captain though. If you made someone else captain, and had Jerome Taylor that attack would be alot better.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have talent.

Just not a lot of brains right now it seems.

Although at least its more exciting than a team of 11 Chanderpauls.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bit late but Tendulkar got his 100th 100 a few days back, epic achievement.


I have growen up watching him. Was about 10 when he started out. Going to be sad when he is finally done. Truly amazing player. Also seems like a great person to.


I don't think Tendulkars 15k runs in test cricket will ever be broken.


Cook has a decent shot at breaking it, assuming he becomes captain and stays in the team for another 5-10 years..!
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two tiers of International Test cricket for me......

South Africa
India
England
Australia

New Zealand
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
West Indies

Ofcourse on the sub continent the home advantage is incredible
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow_junky wrote:
texans_uk wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:
sunnygsm wrote:
Bit late but Tendulkar got his 100th 100 a few days back, epic achievement.


I have growen up watching him. Was about 10 when he started out. Going to be sad when he is finally done. Truly amazing player. Also seems like a great person to.


I don't think Tendulkars 15k runs in test cricket will ever be broken.


Cook has a decent shot at breaking it, assuming he becomes captain and stays in the team for another 5-10 years..!


That is a serious ask.

Tendulkar is on 15,470
Cook is on 6,356

Tendulkar averages 55.44
Cook averages 48.89

The top 10 run scores all have averages over 50.

Cook will seriously have to go some.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

texans_uk wrote:
wow_junky wrote:
texans_uk wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:
sunnygsm wrote:
Bit late but Tendulkar got his 100th 100 a few days back, epic achievement.


I have growen up watching him. Was about 10 when he started out. Going to be sad when he is finally done. Truly amazing player. Also seems like a great person to.


I don't think Tendulkars 15k runs in test cricket will ever be broken.


Cook has a decent shot at breaking it, assuming he becomes captain and stays in the team for another 5-10 years..!


That is a serious ask.

Tendulkar is on 15,470
Cook is on 6,356

Tendulkar averages 55.44
Cook averages 48.89

The top 10 run scores all have averages over 50.

Cook will seriously have to go some.


By the time Tendulkar was Cook's age he had played 125 innings over 79 tests, scoring 6416 runs @ 57.2

Cook at the moment has played 139 innings over 79 tests, scoring 6356 runs @ 48.9

So average aside, he is on pace just about with age v runs. Now consider that Cook averages 11.2 tests a year vs 7.8 per year for Tendulkar, it stacks up slightly in Cook's favour in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blahman88 wrote:
There are two tiers of International Test cricket for me......

South Africa
India
England
Australia

New Zealand
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
West Indies

Ofcourse on the sub continent the home advantage is incredible


I'd argue Sri Lanka should possibly be in that upper tier. India as much as I try to root for them, suck complete balls outside of the subcontinent, at least lately. The test series in England was the single worst test series loss I've ever seen and the one in Australia was pretty bad too.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow_junky wrote:
texans_uk wrote:
wow_junky wrote:
texans_uk wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:
sunnygsm wrote:
Bit late but Tendulkar got his 100th 100 a few days back, epic achievement.


I have growen up watching him. Was about 10 when he started out. Going to be sad when he is finally done. Truly amazing player. Also seems like a great person to.


I don't think Tendulkars 15k runs in test cricket will ever be broken.


Cook has a decent shot at breaking it, assuming he becomes captain and stays in the team for another 5-10 years..!


That is a serious ask.

Tendulkar is on 15,470
Cook is on 6,356

Tendulkar averages 55.44
Cook averages 48.89

The top 10 run scores all have averages over 50.

Cook will seriously have to go some.


By the time Tendulkar was Cook's age he had played 125 innings over 79 tests, scoring 6416 runs @ 57.2

Cook at the moment has played 139 innings over 79 tests, scoring 6356 runs @ 48.9

So average aside, he is on pace just about with age v runs. Now consider that Cook averages 11.2 tests a year vs 7.8 per year for Tendulkar, it stacks up slightly in Cook's favour in my opinion.


Except Cook would have to play until he is 38 or 39.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunnygsm wrote:
Blahman88 wrote:
There are two tiers of International Test cricket for me......

South Africa
India
England
Australia

New Zealand
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
West Indies

Ofcourse on the sub continent the home advantage is incredible


I'd argue Sri Lanka should possibly be in that upper tier. India as much as I try to root for them, suck complete balls outside of the subcontinent, at least lately. The test series in England was the single worst test series loss I've ever seen and the one in Australia was pretty bad too.


I feel Sri Lanka are just the same as India, but do not compete at all well anywhere else. India have shown they can play in Australia and South Africa somewhat....

They just sucked in English conditions
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