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Andrus Peat
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Brandon Scherff
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Kevin White
18%
 18%  [ 6 ]
Danny Shelton
50%
 50%  [ 16 ]
La'el Collins
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Trae Waynes
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Marcus Peters
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Shane Ray
9%
 9%  [ 3 ]
DeVante Parker
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Alvin "Bud" Dupree
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Randy Gregory
15%
 15%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:34 am    Post subject: Vikings Forum Mock Draft: Da Bears OTC Reply with quote

1. Tampa Bay - QB Jameis Winston, Florida St.
2. Tennessee - DL Leonard Williams, USC
3. Jacksonville - DE/OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson
4. Oakland - WR Amari Cooper, Alabama
5. Washington - DE/OLB Dante Fowler, Florida State
6. New York Jets - QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon
7. Chicago
8. Atlanta
9. New York Giants
10. St. Louis
11. Minnesota
12. Cleveland
13. New Orleans
14. Miami
15. San Francisco
16. Houston
17. San Diego
18. Kansas City
19. Cleveland
20. Philadelphia
21. Cincinnati
22. Pittsburgh
23. Detroit
24. Arizona
25. Carolina
26. Baltimore
27. Dallas
28. Denver
29. Indianapolis
30. Green Bay
31. New Orleans
32. New England
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is Gregory not an option? He gets my vote, great fit for Fangio.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't have a 3-4 without a solid nose. There are better players, and the Bears have set themselves up to draft BPA based in free agency moves. I don't believe they were able to sign a NT though.
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Can't have a 3-4 without a solid nose. There are better players, and the Bears have set themselves up to draft BPA based in free agency moves. I don't believe they were able to sign a NT though.


Doesn't make sense to take a part time player in the top 10. The 49ers didn't seem to be all that reliant on a NT for their scheme.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes, Gregory should get added soon, forgot to add in him, he's probably not up there yet because of the failed drug test.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikingsrule wrote:
rpmwr19 wrote:
Can't have a 3-4 without a solid nose. There are better players, and the Bears have set themselves up to draft BPA based in free agency moves. I don't believe they were able to sign a NT though.


Doesn't make sense to take a part time player in the top 10. The 49ers didn't seem to be all that reliant on a NT for their scheme.

Bears aren't running the 49ers scheme. They are running an actual 3-4 with a 0-tech nose. Shelton also isn't a part time player. He can be a 2-4-5 nickel defense tackle as well.
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Ah yes, Gregory should get added soon, forgot to add in him, he's probably not up there yet because of the failed drug test.


I still think he's the best pick for many of the same reasons why people argue for the Vikings to take him at 11. Gregory is the best natural pass rusher on the board and the 49ers are desperate for an edge rusher who can beat Tackles. Jared Allen is washed up and Pernell McPhee is a strong side thumper and marginal pass rusher.


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rpmwr19 wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
rpmwr19 wrote:
Can't have a 3-4 without a solid nose. There are better players, and the Bears have set themselves up to draft BPA based in free agency moves. I don't believe they were able to sign a NT though.


Doesn't make sense to take a part time player in the top 10. The 49ers didn't seem to be all that reliant on a NT for their scheme.

Bears aren't running the 49ers scheme. They are running an actual 3-4 with a 0-tech nose. Shelton also isn't a part time player. He can be a 2-4-5 nickel defense tackle as well.


Wouldnt the Bears use Lamarr Houston and another penetrating DT in that scenario? Basically what the Packers do in 2-4. If anything, Malcom Brown would be a better fit than Shelton if you're looking for a bigger penetrating NT.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Houston and Shelton could both play in the 2-4-5 and Shelton is a better fit for a 0-tech nose in a base 3-4.

Shelton can play the penatrator role and lane clogger.
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Houston and Shelton could both play in the 2-4-5 and Shelton is a better fit for a 0-tech nose in a base 3-4.

Shelton can play the penatrator role and lane clogger.


I worry about Shelton's ability to get after the QB at the next level, if he has the athleticism to do it going forward. Its this concern that makes me question if he can hold up as an every down player, even from a physical standpoint. Will he have to leave the field in nickel? If his purpose is to be a lane clogger in base 50% of the time, is that worth a top 10 pick in today's NFL?

Why not get the dominant edge rusher if that is what Gregory is being advertised as?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because a 3-4 also needs a viable 0-tech to be successful. They at lest have guys on roster who can play some rush linebacker. They maybe have an aged Jay Ratliff to play NT. If you can get one that can be a base 0T and contribute in your nickel packages that's pretty rare.

All of this being said, Gregory would still make sense too.
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rpmwr19 wrote:
Because a 3-4 also needs a viable 0-tech to be successful. They at lest have guys on roster who can play some rush linebacker. They maybe have an aged Jay Ratliff to play NT. If you can get one that can be a base 0T and contribute in your nickel packages that's pretty rare.

All of this being said, Gregory would still make sense too.


Ratliff was pretty good in Dallas at NT in Phillips defense, what happened to him? Forgot he was on that team.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

was going to go Gregory as well
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the #'s, if a mod wants to add Gregory to the poll go for it, I just can't anymore. Or just bold it in your post and give the # of votes for Gregory already, and that'll be easy enough to track.
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The Gnat wrote:
Looking at the #'s, if a mod wants to add Gregory to the poll go for it, I just can't anymore. Or just bold it in your post and give the # of votes for Gregory already, and that'll be easy enough to track.


I added Gregory to the poll.
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