Is Gholston really THAT bad?!

bzane · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 23

I do not get to watch Jets' games so would like to ask the fans if Vernon Gholston is as big a disappointment as he seems to be, judging from what I read here.

When he was drafted, it seemed like everybody was excited about his prospects- there were many postings of a photo of Gholston's bodybuilder physique, and a lot of predictions that he would be a "beast", based apparently as much on his picture as anything he had done on the field.

Now, it seems like everything you read about him on the fan forums is negative- almost beyond the criticism levelled at a disappointing player, and approaching the dreaded condemnation of "bust"- and only in his second year.

Generally, players are given a grace period of two or three years before the fans give up on them- and yet it seems like the verdict is in on Gholston already. I don't see the famous physique photo posted here anymore, nor see the word "beast" attached to him.

I read the post-game statistics, and it seems like Gholston gets maybe one tackle, or one assist, per game, and zero sacks.

What happened?

Is Vernon Gholston really that bad?

Darrelle Revis · Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1342

No, he's not.

I try to watch Gholston whenever he's on the field (which was a lot before Pace got back) and while he didn't get any sacks, he did a great job of taking up blockers so other guys like Harris/Scott/Rhodes/Leohnard could get through and bring pressure.

He's not flashy or worth the 6th overall pick, but Gholston collapses the pocket pretty well and takes up blockers. He's contributing and will be a solid NFL player IMO.

Davey · Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 12193 Location: New Jersey

Sort of, not really, but yeah.
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Jetsman82 · Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 8219 Location: sixOHnine

He hasn't been what we thought he'd be. But he hasn't been horrible.

He's been getting some good pressure this year. And when he isn't you can see him occupying 2 or even 3 blockers.
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bzane · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 23

Gosh, I didn't mean to grind your gears; I'm only going by what has been posted on this site, which is my best source of information. And I'll admit I haven't re-read every Gholston thread, but I do remember a lot more vividly than any mention of the Ohio State sack record the multiple postings of that bodybuilder photo, which evidently sold a lot of fans on Gholston; there were even posts that had little or no caption- just the physique shot, as though that were all the proof needed.

Now, nobody's posting the photo anymore, and the word "beast" has been replaced by "bust" in some of the posts. I can't recall ever seeing a more sudden fall-from-Grace.

Jetsman82 · Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 8219 Location: sixOHnine

It doesn't help playing in NY. Where there is zero tolerance.

He's no bust. With the improvment from last year to this year, I think well see another improvement from this year to next year.
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SatireSphere · Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 3498 Location: Tzi on the sig.

He actually really reminds me of how Calvin Pace stunk his few first years in Arizona and improved and played very well in his contract year.

Hopefully New England is there to snatch him up when that day comes.
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jetskid007 · Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 3678

Gholston is just pure talent and in my opinion for where he was drafted he is "that bad". Now if we were to drop the number 6 overall pick tag, I would say he has played alright. That being said, he is not doing what he was drafted to do and it frustraites me. He has shown glimpses but until he gets a sack I feel like he has nothing to show for; he is too weak mentally and as the weeks go by without a sack, he looks like he puts more pressure on himself and does worse. When it's all said and done, I think he needs to go to a different organization with a very good coaching staff in order to succeed; I don't see him being an effective 3-4 OLB in his career and the quicker we admit we made a mistake, the easier it will be to move on.
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