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darkotto23
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i can't say im too happy about this. I liked what i saw from jack (althou i did miss half of last weeks game). I was kinda hoping we would keep 5 CB's.
It is nice to have Ty Law when we play vs the colts, he is Peytons nemesis.
So much for Phonz and Jack being our QB's of the future. 
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| darkotto23 wrote: | i can't say im too happy about this. I liked what i saw from jack (althou i did miss half of last weeks game). I was kinda hoping we would keep 5 CB's.
It is nice to have Ty Law when we play vs the colts, he is Peytons nemesis.
So much for Phonz and Jack being our QB's of the future. |
u mean cb's?
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What? I don't like this at all. Just an unnecessary move. There is nothing Law can contribute to this team that Williams couldn't at this point in his career.
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Seems like the Broncos are gearing up for a serious playoff run... Need veterans to guide the young bucks in
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darkotto23
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| orangeandblue86 wrote: | | darkotto23 wrote: | i can't say im too happy about this. I liked what i saw from jack (althou i did miss half of last weeks game). I was kinda hoping we would keep 5 CB's.
It is nice to have Ty Law when we play vs the colts, he is Peytons nemesis.
So much for Phonz and Jack being our QB's of the future. |
u mean cb's? |
no, no I was thinking we could implement at 2 QB system with Phonz and Jack at QB, but i guess that idea will never happen now 
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whenmidgetsatak
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Hopefully this makes Phonz permanent nickel. I am not too hopeful about Law
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Well now I'm officially upset. When we cut Kory L for Hochstein it made some sense considering the change to the blocking schemes and Hochstein's superior suitability for it relative to Kory.
But cutting a 25 year old with lots of promise for a washed-up player 10 years his senior? We could have had Jack Williams for the next 8 years but instead we get Ty Law for the next 8 games. I might be able to square myself with this move if we lacked a veteran presence in the secondary or on the defense as a whole. But we do not. We have the oldest secondary in the league and a defense loaded with vocal leaders - Dawkins, Reid, Davis, Williams, Haggan to name a few.
And before the McDaniels Apologists come out and say Jack Williams sucks, look at the tape. He had one bad game last week against Baltimore but to this point in the year has out-played 1st round pick Alphonso Smith. What are Law's qualifications for this job in the first place? Is that he's still a borderline Hall of Fame player? Nope, he hasn't played anywhere near a Pro Bowl level for several years, just ask the Jets. Is it that we lack veteran leadership? Not that either as I explained above. Is that we're losing games because of poor play from the secondary? Nope, we're 6-1 and lost last week because we played an elite defense and the McOrton offense couldn't counter what the Ravens were doing defensively. What could it be then.....? Oh, I think I've got it, he used to play for New England. He's on the team for the same reason the pisspoor LaMont Jordan is.
Good job, Mac. I was tentatively on your bandwagon but now I'm officially pissedoff at you. 
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Our team keeps getting older. We have to be one of the older teams in the league. I don't really mind this right now but it concerns me about the next 2-3 years, esp. our secondary.
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| brassglobos wrote: | | Our team keeps getting older. We have to be one of the older teams in the league. I don't really mind this right now but it concerns me about the next 2-3 years, esp. our secondary. |
Exactly. It's stuff like this that eventually lead to Mike Shanahan being fired. In a vane attempt to "win now" we sacrifice the future to sign washed-up veterans who have big names but little game.
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| AnAngryAmerican wrote: | Well now I'm officially upset. When we cut Kory L for Hochstein it made some sense considering the change to the blocking schemes and Hochstein's superior suitability for it relative to Kory.
But cutting a 25 year old with lots of promise for a washed-up player 10 years his senior? We could have had Jack Williams for the next 8 years but instead we get Ty Law for the next 8 games. I might be able to square myself with this move if we lacked a veteran presence in the secondary or on the defense as a whole. But we do not. We have the oldest secondary in the league and a defense loaded with vocal leaders - Dawkins, Reid, Davis, Williams, Haggan to name a few.
And before the McDaniels Apologists come out and say Jack Williams sucks, look at the tape. He had one bad game last week against Baltimore but to this point in the year has out-played 1st round pick Alphonso Smith. What are Law's qualifications for this job in the first place? Is that he's still a borderline Hall of Fame player? Nope, he hasn't played anywhere near a Pro Bowl level for several years, just ask the Jets. Is it that we lack veteran leadership? Not that either as I explained above. Is that we're losing games because of poor play from the secondary? Nope, we're 6-1 and lost last week because we played an elite defense and the McOrton offense couldn't counter what the Ravens were doing defensively. What could it be then.....? Oh, I think I've got it, he used to play for New England and was good 5 years ago.
Good job, Mac. I was tentatively on your bandwagon but now I'm officially pissedoff at you. |
While I understand your reaction, and agree to an extent, you have to realize that if Jack Williams were ever a starting CB for us, we would be in trouble. Its not like he cut Brandon Marshall for Keyshawn Johnson
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| AnAngryAmerican wrote: | | brassglobos wrote: | | Our team keeps getting older. We have to be one of the older teams in the league. I don't really mind this right now but it concerns me about the next 2-3 years, esp. our secondary. |
Exactly. It's stuff like this that eventually lead to Mike Shanahan being fired. In a vane attempt to "win now" we sacrifice the future to sign washed-up veterans who have big names but little game. |
The sky is truly falling.
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ZOMG!!!!
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| whenmidgetsatak wrote: | | AnAngryAmerican wrote: | Well now I'm officially upset. When we cut Kory L for Hochstein it made some sense considering the change to the blocking schemes and Hochstein's superior suitability for it relative to Kory.
But cutting a 25 year old with lots of promise for a washed-up player 10 years his senior? We could have had Jack Williams for the next 8 years but instead we get Ty Law for the next 8 games. I might be able to square myself with this move if we lacked a veteran presence in the secondary or on the defense as a whole. But we do not. We have the oldest secondary in the league and a defense loaded with vocal leaders - Dawkins, Reid, Davis, Williams, Haggan to name a few.
And before the McDaniels Apologists come out and say Jack Williams sucks, look at the tape. He had one bad game last week against Baltimore but to this point in the year has out-played 1st round pick Alphonso Smith. What are Law's qualifications for this job in the first place? Is that he's still a borderline Hall of Fame player? Nope, he hasn't played anywhere near a Pro Bowl level for several years, just ask the Jets. Is it that we lack veteran leadership? Not that either as I explained above. Is that we're losing games because of poor play from the secondary? Nope, we're 6-1 and lost last week because we played an elite defense and the McOrton offense couldn't counter what the Ravens were doing defensively. What could it be then.....? Oh, I think I've got it, he used to play for New England and was good 5 years ago.
Good job, Mac. I was tentatively on your bandwagon but now I'm officially pissedoff at you. |
While I understand your reaction, and agree to an extent, you have to realize that if Jack Williams were ever a starting CB for us, we would be in trouble. Its not like he cut Brandon Marshall for Keyshawn Johnson |
But we'd be better off with Ty Law starting? Please. Law hasn't played all year, probably isn't in game shape and will be adjusting to playing at altitude. Anyway you slice it, this is a bad move.
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| AnAngryAmerican wrote: | | whenmidgetsatak wrote: | | AnAngryAmerican wrote: | Well now I'm officially upset. When we cut Kory L for Hochstein it made some sense considering the change to the blocking schemes and Hochstein's superior suitability for it relative to Kory.
But cutting a 25 year old with lots of promise for a washed-up player 10 years his senior? We could have had Jack Williams for the next 8 years but instead we get Ty Law for the next 8 games. I might be able to square myself with this move if we lacked a veteran presence in the secondary or on the defense as a whole. But we do not. We have the oldest secondary in the league and a defense loaded with vocal leaders - Dawkins, Reid, Davis, Williams, Haggan to name a few.
And before the McDaniels Apologists come out and say Jack Williams sucks, look at the tape. He had one bad game last week against Baltimore but to this point in the year has out-played 1st round pick Alphonso Smith. What are Law's qualifications for this job in the first place? Is that he's still a borderline Hall of Fame player? Nope, he hasn't played anywhere near a Pro Bowl level for several years, just ask the Jets. Is it that we lack veteran leadership? Not that either as I explained above. Is that we're losing games because of poor play from the secondary? Nope, we're 6-1 and lost last week because we played an elite defense and the McOrton offense couldn't counter what the Ravens were doing defensively. What could it be then.....? Oh, I think I've got it, he used to play for New England and was good 5 years ago.
Good job, Mac. I was tentatively on your bandwagon but now I'm officially pissedoff at you. |
While I understand your reaction, and agree to an extent, you have to realize that if Jack Williams were ever a starting CB for us, we would be in trouble. Its not like he cut Brandon Marshall for Keyshawn Johnson |
But we'd be better off with Ty Law starting? Please. Law hasn't played all year, probably isn't in game shape and will be adjusting to playing at altitude. Anyway you slice it, this is a bad move. |
It sure looks like it now, but worst case scenario we have a worse 4th string CB. We have bigger things to worry about tbh
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It's wrong that Ty took his spot and his #26.
The last couple weeks Jack has played bad, primarily against bigger recievers like malcom floyd and kelly Washington. It makes it no better that in the coming weeks he would have to go against Limas Sweed, malcom Floyd and Malcom Kelly. He was never going to be a starting CB where the players are even bigger and more physical. Though he did well against smaller guys like Welker with his speed bigger guys will always be a problem for him.
I'm not saying he is the most needed player on our team but cutting a guy like Jordan or Lloyd would have made more sense.
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