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R3N3G4D3
Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 5581 Location: T3X4S
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | Bad pick for the Denver Broncos. I don't see Hardy as a good fit for a 3-4 defense, he's a bit undersized and doesn't have the strength to play the position. I feel he's best suited as a 4-3 LDE.
With that being said, I'd prefer Allen Bailey, DE, Miami (who isn't in your mock?) as our pick. Bailey is an ideal 3-4 defensive end, and is climbing up my board. I have him ranked third amongst 3-4 DE prospects, and his stock continues to rise. He's a perfect fit for our system, and wouldn't have to contribute immediately - which is good, he's raw. |
Stop saying ' Who isn't in your mock?' Allen Bailey is not a first rounder. Hardy is not undersized, he's a beast. Not to mention he's very strong. I don't know who you've been watching but it hasn't been Hardy. |
1. Don't tell me what to do, I say what I wish. That's like me telling you to stop saying your mocks are the best in the forum, when they obviously aren't.
2. Bailey? Not a first rounder? Wow, you need to catch up on your prospects. He's considered a top twenty pick.
3. I never said Hardy was undersized or not strong, overall. I said he was those for the 3-4 defensive end position.
4. I watch plenty of college football, and its players. Thanks. |
Mine is the best in this forum, and I'll bet you my entire life that Bailey WILL NOT be a top 20 pick in this years draft, I don't care what the rankings say. Tell that kid to stay healthy first. |
You say that as if it's fact, but it's an opinion. Drop the ego, because I'm sure plently of people will agree with me.
Okay, I will and I'll tell Hardy the same. I'll also tell you to watch Bailey play, and see how dominant he's been this year. |
I've watched Bailey play, he's probably the 10th best defensive lineman in this draft. Don't worry about my ego, I'm not cocky. I'm confident. |
You're the only one who doesn't think he's a first round prospect, from what I've seen.
Ohh, but I still proved you wrong.  |
Well seeing as how Bailey isn't even on Kipers big board, but you did said he was ranked in top 20 right? lol
I don't know what you've been reading but there are much better defensive lineman than that kid in this draft. Get off his jock, cause he won't take you anywhere with it. |
Kiper is a joke, his big boards mean nothing.
I've been reading the collected opinions of people on this forum, as well as various scouts.
Oh, wow, you're tough. Making insults online? LOL, grow up and get off my jock.  _________________
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bpred51 
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 203
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | Bad pick for the Denver Broncos. I don't see Hardy as a good fit for a 3-4 defense, he's a bit undersized and doesn't have the strength to play the position. I feel he's best suited as a 4-3 LDE.
With that being said, I'd prefer Allen Bailey, DE, Miami (who isn't in your mock?) as our pick. Bailey is an ideal 3-4 defensive end, and is climbing up my board. I have him ranked third amongst 3-4 DE prospects, and his stock continues to rise. He's a perfect fit for our system, and wouldn't have to contribute immediately - which is good, he's raw. |
Stop saying ' Who isn't in your mock?' Allen Bailey is not a first rounder. Hardy is not undersized, he's a beast. Not to mention he's very strong. I don't know who you've been watching but it hasn't been Hardy. |
1. Don't tell me what to do, I say what I wish. That's like me telling you to stop saying your mocks are the best in the forum, when they obviously aren't.
2. Bailey? Not a first rounder? Wow, you need to catch up on your prospects. He's considered a top twenty pick.
3. I never said Hardy was undersized or not strong, overall. I said he was those for the 3-4 defensive end position.
4. I watch plenty of college football, and its players. Thanks. |
Mine is the best in this forum, and I'll bet you my entire life that Bailey WILL NOT be a top 20 pick in this years draft, I don't care what the rankings say. Tell that kid to stay healthy first. |
You say that as if it's fact, but it's an opinion. Drop the ego, because I'm sure plently of people will agree with me.
Okay, I will and I'll tell Hardy the same. I'll also tell you to watch Bailey play, and see how dominant he's been this year. |
I've watched Bailey play, he's probably the 10th best defensive lineman in this draft. Don't worry about my ego, I'm not cocky. I'm confident. |
You're the only one who doesn't think he's a first round prospect, from what I've seen.
Ohh, but I still proved you wrong.  |
Well seeing as how Bailey isn't even on Kipers big board, but you did said he was ranked in top 20 right? lol
I don't know what you've been reading but there are much better defensive lineman than that kid in this draft. Get off his jock, cause he won't take you anywhere with it. |
Kiper is a joke, his big boards mean nothing.
I've been reading the collected opinions of people on this forum, as well as various scouts.
Oh, wow, you're tough. Making insults online? LOL, grow up and get off my jock.  |
I've been reading them as well but I'm going to go with a guy whose been doing it for the past 25 years and gets paid instead of a bunch of random people with a bunch of opinions.
Seeing as your in my thread that i created, your on my jock little boy.  _________________
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- 2x First Team All SEC ( 2007, 2008 )
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R3N3G4D3
Joined: 16 Aug 2008 Posts: 5581 Location: T3X4S
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | | bpred51 wrote: | | R3N3G4D3 wrote: | Bad pick for the Denver Broncos. I don't see Hardy as a good fit for a 3-4 defense, he's a bit undersized and doesn't have the strength to play the position. I feel he's best suited as a 4-3 LDE.
With that being said, I'd prefer Allen Bailey, DE, Miami (who isn't in your mock?) as our pick. Bailey is an ideal 3-4 defensive end, and is climbing up my board. I have him ranked third amongst 3-4 DE prospects, and his stock continues to rise. He's a perfect fit for our system, and wouldn't have to contribute immediately - which is good, he's raw. |
Stop saying ' Who isn't in your mock?' Allen Bailey is not a first rounder. Hardy is not undersized, he's a beast. Not to mention he's very strong. I don't know who you've been watching but it hasn't been Hardy. |
1. Don't tell me what to do, I say what I wish. That's like me telling you to stop saying your mocks are the best in the forum, when they obviously aren't.
2. Bailey? Not a first rounder? Wow, you need to catch up on your prospects. He's considered a top twenty pick.
3. I never said Hardy was undersized or not strong, overall. I said he was those for the 3-4 defensive end position.
4. I watch plenty of college football, and its players. Thanks. |
Mine is the best in this forum, and I'll bet you my entire life that Bailey WILL NOT be a top 20 pick in this years draft, I don't care what the rankings say. Tell that kid to stay healthy first. |
You say that as if it's fact, but it's an opinion. Drop the ego, because I'm sure plently of people will agree with me.
Okay, I will and I'll tell Hardy the same. I'll also tell you to watch Bailey play, and see how dominant he's been this year. |
I've watched Bailey play, he's probably the 10th best defensive lineman in this draft. Don't worry about my ego, I'm not cocky. I'm confident. |
You're the only one who doesn't think he's a first round prospect, from what I've seen.
Ohh, but I still proved you wrong.  |
Well seeing as how Bailey isn't even on Kipers big board, but you did said he was ranked in top 20 right? lol
I don't know what you've been reading but there are much better defensive lineman than that kid in this draft. Get off his jock, cause he won't take you anywhere with it. |
Kiper is a joke, his big boards mean nothing.
I've been reading the collected opinions of people on this forum, as well as various scouts.
Oh, wow, you're tough. Making insults online? LOL, grow up and get off my jock.  |
I've been reading them as well but I'm going to go with a guy whose been doing it for the past 25 years and gets paid instead of a bunch of random people with a bunch of opinions.
Seeing as your in my thread that i created, your on my jock little boy.  |
You follow yours, and I follow mine. You're the only person I've seen to think that.
Ohh, but you're the one who first responded with a wise comment. So, kid, you're on my jock. _________________
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Tooki 
Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 816 Location: Oz
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Good Seattle picks.
With the Jake Locker criticism, our good friend Matt Hasselbeck (amongst the elite in reading defences) can teach Locker to read D & also utilise the pocket which Hass can do well too.
If we can drag Mike Holmgren back he would be at least a Pro-Bowl QB. _________________
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bpred51 
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 203
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Tooki wrote: | Good Seattle picks.
With the Jake Locker criticism, our good friend Matt Hasselbeck (amongst the elite in reading defences) can teach Locker to read D & also utilise the pocket which Hass can do well too.
If we can drag Mike Holmgren back he would be at least a Pro-Bowl QB. |
I'm just hoping Locker will actually leave this season, he could use another year to polish up some skills. _________________
Brandon ' The Predator ' Spikes
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- 2008 First Team All-American |
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-DOA- 
Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 325
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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You and R3N3G4D3 really need to lay off each other. Nothing worse than to see a thread ruined by a bunch of bickering. Bad Bengals pick. Even if Tank walks, we have bigger needs at CB or FS that would need to be addressed first. I highly doubt Tank walks anyways. He likes it here and we'd love to re-sign him. _________________
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Torres8518 
Joined: 24 Jul 2009 Posts: 1386 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| -DOA- wrote: | | You and R3N3G4D3 really need to lay off each other. Nothing worse than to see a thread ruined by a bunch of bickering. Bad Bengals pick. Even if Tank walks, we have bigger needs at CB or FS that would need to be addressed first. I highly doubt Tank walks anyways. He likes it here and we'd love to re-sign him. |
Agreed, I'd prefer Trevard Lindley out of Kentucky. _________________ Bengals Pro Bowl Watch
Chad OchoCinco, Cedric Benson, Leon Hall, Evan Mathis, Bobbie Williams, Johnathon Joseph, Carson Palmer. |
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bpred51 
Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 203
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Torres8518 wrote: | | -DOA- wrote: | | You and R3N3G4D3 really need to lay off each other. Nothing worse than to see a thread ruined by a bunch of bickering. Bad Bengals pick. Even if Tank walks, we have bigger needs at CB or FS that would need to be addressed first. I highly doubt Tank walks anyways. He likes it here and we'd love to re-sign him. |
Agreed, I'd prefer Trevard Lindley out of Kentucky. |
Made changes. _________________
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- 2x First Team All SEC ( 2007, 2008 )
- 2008 First Team All-American |
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ninjapirate 
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 11221 Location: Vegas or Reno
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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The eagles can't cover TE's to save their lives. This is usually the task appointed to our SAM linebacker. Can Kindle stop the wittens, cooleys and boss' of the world?
If the answer is no, then he is worthless. _________________
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bpred51 
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ninjapirate wrote: | The eagles can't cover TE's to save their lives. This is usually the task appointed to our SAM linebacker. Can Kindle stop the wittens, cooleys and boss' of the world?
If the answer is no, then he is worthless. |
He absolutely can cover tight ends. _________________
Brandon ' The Predator ' Spikes
- 2006 & 2008 National Champion
- 2x First Team All SEC ( 2007, 2008 )
- 2008 First Team All-American |
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ninjapirate 
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 11221 Location: Vegas or Reno
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| bpred51 wrote: | | ninjapirate wrote: | The eagles can't cover TE's to save their lives. This is usually the task appointed to our SAM linebacker. Can Kindle stop the wittens, cooleys and boss' of the world?
If the answer is no, then he is worthless. |
He absolutely can cover tight ends. |
Ah then he is fine. _________________
Thanks to PatsDynasty21 on the sig.
Half ninja, half pirate and 100% pretty cool. |
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leftysport54
Joined: 24 Jul 2009 Posts: 58 Location: Philly
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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quite obviously you are a Brandon Spikes fan, but in all seriousness, how can you give the Cardinals Spikes with Rolando McClain (a top 10 prospect) on the board? McClain comes from a 3-4 defense, is more athletic, doesn't gauge out eyes, and has more upside. I love me some Spikes, but he is a 4-3 LB, and not as good as McClain.
As for the Eagles, I like the Kindle pick.
Just a note, what the hell is Adam Ulatowski doing in the 1st round? |
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bpred51 
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| leftysport54 wrote: | quite obviously you are a Brandon Spikes fan, but in all seriousness, how can you give the Cardinals Spikes with Rolando McClain (a top 10 prospect) on the board? McClain comes from a 3-4 defense, is more athletic, doesn't gauge out eyes, and has more upside. I love me some Spikes, but he is a 4-3 LB, and not as good as McClain.
As for the Eagles, I like the Kindle pick.
Just a note, what the hell is Adam Ulatowski doing in the 1st round? |
Spikes is a better prospect, and McClain might stay again for his senior season depending on how Bama does.
Ulatowski has climbed rapidly but I guess Ciron Black could go there, even though he's more of a RT and not a LT _________________
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- 2006 & 2008 National Champion
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- 2008 First Team All-American |
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The Thorpedo 
Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 2833 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Good Vikings pick. _________________
| Mossburg wrote: | | I'm calling it right now, so put this in your sigs. This one is going to 9 OTs. Everyone will foul out, and Perkins will play Lindsey Hunter 1 on 1 full court. |
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CaribouLou 
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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The Raiders don't really have a big need at DE if one at all. I'd prefer Josh Nesbitt (Who isn't in your mock?) as our pick.
But really, I would say that RT, DT, and QB if a good prospect is on board to be picked for the Raiders. _________________
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