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Texasmade
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| BlueCrush wrote: | | Colton wrote: | | Supersuavesky wrote: | | VanSlyke18 wrote: | What's more disturbing?...
The fact that this happened, or the fact that most of this board assumes that it happens on a regular basis and accepts it?
Where, along the path of striving to be good football players, did it become acceptable to take the easy way out?
It's disgusting. |
Another person that has never played before.
We don't assume it happens. It does. One time I gave someone an indian burn.  No joke. |
This is getting a little sad. I love how people on here constantly compare their "glory days" of high school football to the stuff that happens in D-1 College Football.
Does this kind of stuff happen in high School? Sure it does. You got a bunch of hormonal teenagers trying to be the biggest badass on the field so they think punching someone in the pile is cool and makes them tough, whatever. It happened to me and I threw some elbows at the bottom a few time. But this is high level college football were talking about. Not some scrub high school team If he can't control himself or his emotions at this point, being a senior in college, why should he be trusted as a Pro?
Instead of taking the word of a bunch of High School Heroes, i'd rather hear what Mike Golic, a former D-1, NFL Lineman has to say about this kind of stuff.
| Quote: | | http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4616581 |
Go hear, and watch this little clip of what Golic says about the stuff that goes on in the piles.
This is a big deal. What he did, wasn't trying to just hurt someone with a big hit. He was out to intentionally, maliciously, and permanently injure another person, and not to mention that they guy was basically laying there helplessly and unable to defend himself. Spikes is a coward. And in no way should this just be looked over as just something that happens. |
Its sad people don't understand how serious this was... and are acting like its something light. Going after someone's eye intentionally is the same as a malicious hit at someones knees.... your trying to ruin their career.
Its a lot dirtier than the Blount play imo, and I'm disgusted that Urban Meyer only suspended him a half a game....its disgusting. |
Urban Myer is a joke what else would you expect......
Anyone who thinks this isn't going to resurface, and be a potential red flag on him come April is jsut foolish. |
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the Big Ten reviews game film, and suspends players for personal foul type plays, or helmet to helmet contact. OSU senior captain Kurt Coleman was suspended for an entire game for a play that was called on the field a personal foul, and he was already the third Big Ten player to have that punishment laid down. Now how is it that a guy, who made a play thats made EVERY game, called nearly EVERY game, suspended for an entire game, and the guy that takes the context of the game to another level by trying to cheapshot an opponent when he feels that the camera isn't on him, is suspended for a half, and the conference, the NCAA, nobody is reviewing Florida and demanding a harsher penalty?
Think these names
Marcus Vick
Robert Reynolds
LeGarrette Blount
Vick was suspended indefinitely for stomping the leg of Elvis Dumervil in a bowl game, and from what I recall didn't play another game for the Hoakies.
Robert Reynolds was an Ohio State linebacker, who in 2003 attempted to choke Wisconsin QB Jim Sorgi after taking him down to the turf during the football game. Reynolds was clearly caught on camera, and suspended for the following game versus Iowa.
Blount we all know about, missed over half of the season for throwing, and landing a punch on a Boise State player after the contest.
I don't see how Spikes punishment should be less than these I have managed to highlight. As Jannelle said on ESPN's First Take this morning, The SEC's lovefest with the Florida Gators reigned supreme once again in the final decision. Had this player been on any other team in the conference, he likely would have been punished more severely.
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Texasmade
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| H2ThaIzzo wrote: | | I don't see how Spikes punishment should be less than these I have managed to highlight. As Jannelle said on ESPN's First Take this morning, The SEC's lovefest with the Florida Gators reigned supreme once again in the final decision. Had this player been on any other team in the conference, he likely would have been punished more severely. |
If Florida had a coach with any kind of backbone then this wouldn't be an issue. Florida has had 24 kids arrested since 2005, but since Florida is winning NC no one raises an eye brow to the fact. If Myer doesn't grow a pair and start making some changes Florida is on the verge of laying claim to the new Thug-U. |
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Supersuavesky
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Are you all serious? What part of it's not a big deal do you not understand.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-georgia-ealey-spikes&prov=ap&type=lgns
| Quote: | “That really didn’t matter to me,” Ealey said of the suspension. “That’s their decision. He shouldn’t, I think, get suspended at all. We were just out there playing football.”
Ealey said he had his eyes closed when Spikes stuck his hand in his helmet and he wasn’t hurt.
“He really didn’t gouge my eyes,” Ealey said. “He really didn’t get a chance to get close to my eyes.”
The freshman said he believes similar incidents happen all the time.
“I’m pretty sure it goes on back and forth,” he said. “We probably do it and other teams do too. It’s all football. We’re just out there trying to have fun.” |
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Texasmade
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| Supersuavesky wrote: | Are you all serious? What part of it's not a big deal do you not understand.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-georgia-ealey-spikes&prov=ap&type=lgns
| Quote: | “That really didn’t matter to me,” Ealey said of the suspension. “That’s their decision. He shouldn’t, I think, get suspended at all. We were just out there playing football.”
Ealey said he had his eyes closed when Spikes stuck his hand in his helmet and he wasn’t hurt.
“He really didn’t gouge my eyes,” Ealey said. “He really didn’t get a chance to get close to my eyes.”
The freshman said he believes similar incidents happen all the time.
“I’m pretty sure it goes on back and forth,” he said. “We probably do it and other teams do too. It’s all football. We’re just out there trying to have fun.” |
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How is it not a big deal? Intetionally trying to jab your fingers in someones eyes is a big deal. If you refering to it effecting his draft stock you might be right, although the topic will still come up at some point come April.
Look at it like this, what if he had succeeded in his attempt to be a POS and actually gotten his fingers into Ealye's eyes and caused him any kind of damage....what it not be a big deal then? Just look at the Blount incident. If Blount swings and misses, its not near as big of a story as it turned out to be, punches get thrown all the time in football, granted not many after the game. But since he swung and made contact he's all but exhiled from CFB, and rightfully so.
And before you go of on your temper tantrum about how I probably never played football, I played 2 years at Texas State. Not once did I someone intentionally try to gouge my eyes. |
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| Texasmade wrote: | | BlueCrush wrote: | | Colton wrote: | | Supersuavesky wrote: | | VanSlyke18 wrote: | What's more disturbing?...
The fact that this happened, or the fact that most of this board assumes that it happens on a regular basis and accepts it?
Where, along the path of striving to be good football players, did it become acceptable to take the easy way out?
It's disgusting. |
Another person that has never played before.
We don't assume it happens. It does. One time I gave someone an indian burn. No joke. |
This is getting a little sad. I love how people on here constantly compare their "glory days" of high school football to the stuff that happens in D-1 College Football.
Does this kind of stuff happen in high School? Sure it does. You got a bunch of hormonal teenagers trying to be the biggest badass on the field so they think punching someone in the pile is cool and makes them tough, whatever. It happened to me and I threw some elbows at the bottom a few time. But this is high level college football were talking about. Not some scrub high school team If he can't control himself or his emotions at this point, being a senior in college, why should he be trusted as a Pro?
Instead of taking the word of a bunch of High School Heroes, i'd rather hear what Mike Golic, a former D-1, NFL Lineman has to say about this kind of stuff.
| Quote: | | http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4616581 |
Go hear, and watch this little clip of what Golic says about the stuff that goes on in the piles.
This is a big deal. What he did, wasn't trying to just hurt someone with a big hit. He was out to intentionally, maliciously, and permanently injure another person, and not to mention that they guy was basically laying there helplessly and unable to defend himself. Spikes is a coward. And in no way should this just be looked over as just something that happens. |
Its sad people don't understand how serious this was... and are acting like its something light. Going after someone's eye intentionally is the same as a malicious hit at someones knees.... your trying to ruin their career.
Its a lot dirtier than the Blount play imo, and I'm disgusted that Urban Meyer only suspended him a half a game....its disgusting. |
Urban Myer is a joke what else would you expect......
Anyone who thinks this isn't going to resurface, and be a potential red flag on him come April is jsut foolish. |
Remind me again if Darnell Docket was drafted, will Taylor Mays be drafted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFt_gTv4zL4
How about Troy Polamalu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac-JYp25Bx0
Note that the Polamalu and Mays plays were at the very least as dangerous and most likely more dangerous than the Spikes play. Then Pete "the Thug" Carroll tends to coach that sort of thing. |
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Socraticsilence
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| Texasmade wrote: | | H2ThaIzzo wrote: | | I don't see how Spikes punishment should be less than these I have managed to highlight. As Jannelle said on ESPN's First Take this morning, The SEC's lovefest with the Florida Gators reigned supreme once again in the final decision. Had this player been on any other team in the conference, he likely would have been punished more severely. |
If Florida had a coach with any kind of backbone then this wouldn't be an issue. Florida has had 24 kids arrested since 2005, but since Florida is winning NC no one raises an eye brow to the fact. If Myer doesn't grow a pair and start making some changes Florida is on the verge of laying claim to the new Thug-U. |
Arrests happen at every major program I mean check out Mack Brown and his team- http://sooners.wordpress.com/category/texas-football-players-arrested/ |
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| Supersuavesky wrote: | Are you all serious? What part of it's not a big deal do you not understand.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-georgia-ealey-spikes&prov=ap&type=lgns
| Quote: | “That really didn’t matter to me,” Ealey said of the suspension. “That’s their decision. He shouldn’t, I think, get suspended at all. We were just out there playing football.”
Ealey said he had his eyes closed when Spikes stuck his hand in his helmet and he wasn’t hurt.
“He really didn’t gouge my eyes,” Ealey said. “He really didn’t get a chance to get close to my eyes.”
The freshman said he believes similar incidents happen all the time.
“I’m pretty sure it goes on back and forth,” he said. “We probably do it and other teams do too. It’s all football. We’re just out there trying to have fun.” |
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I think this makes our point.
Let Mike Golic say whatever he feels like saying, what player/former player in their right mind would come out to legitimately admit to throwing elbows, twisting ankles, eye gouging etc. Obviously Ealey doesn't care because he knows it happens all the time!!
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| KillaCityChief wrote: | | To anybody who is trying to act like this kind of thing never happens, why do you think guys started wearing visors? |
Duh, to look cool. *sarcasm*
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Texasmade
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Socraticsilence wrote: | | Texasmade wrote: | | H2ThaIzzo wrote: | | I don't see how Spikes punishment should be less than these I have managed to highlight. As Jannelle said on ESPN's First Take this morning, The SEC's lovefest with the Florida Gators reigned supreme once again in the final decision. Had this player been on any other team in the conference, he likely would have been punished more severely. |
If Florida had a coach with any kind of backbone then this wouldn't be an issue. Florida has had 24 kids arrested since 2005, but since Florida is winning NC no one raises an eye brow to the fact. If Myer doesn't grow a pair and start making some changes Florida is on the verge of laying claim to the new Thug-U. |
Arrests happen at every major program I mean check out Mack Brown and his team- http://sooners.wordpress.com/category/texas-football-players-arrested/ |
I realize that, but Texas has had 10 players arrested since 2005 I believe. Still too many, but not quite 24. 24 is ridiculous.
And if youre really gonna use the Taylor Mays and Troy P plays to validate what Spikes did. Mays play was violent, but not dirty as it looked unintentional. You might have a case for Troy but the dude from K-State didnt call a fair catch. Troy got there a split second to early, I cant fault you if you think that was dirty, but to me it was just Troy playing hard. As was Mays he was just tryin to make a play on the ball. Spikes was an unfootlball related retaliation. You seem like a knowledgeable guy, Im assuming you can see the difference between the 3 plays.
Yea Dockett was drafted, but he was a 1st round talent who droped to the 3rd round bc of characer issues. As far as I know Spikes has a clean record off the field, so this incident probably wont hurt him too much, but I guarantee you when scotus and GMs take a look at Spike this incident will come up again. |
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I don't see the big problem. If you don't think he isn't going to get what's his the next time he's at the bottom of a pile is just being foolish. The suspension is the last thing I'd be worried about if I were Spikes.
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It's football. These type of things happen underneath those piles.
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