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Al Davies Resigns/Retires
GM: Tom Telesco (One of the Colts F.O bigwigs)
HC:
Jim Harbaugh (HC Stanford Cardinals)
OC:
Paul Hackett (Ment to be a QB guru, won't call plays so might aswell give him the title).
DC:
Raheem Morris (I think he'l get fired, gives him a chance to get straight back onto the wagon)
Cut:
Stanford Routt
Gerard Warren
Jay Richardson
Javon Walker
Cooper Carlisle
Todd Watkins
Resign:
Kirk Morrison
Thomas Howard
Richard Seymour
Free Agents:
Chad Pennington 2 year deal - When healthy he is a good QB, he had a down year this year so the odds and the trend in his career, is that he'l have a good one next year.
http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=PEN375096
Isaac Bruce 1 year deal - Someone who can catch and run routes wouldn't be a bad idea for our WR corps.
http://www.nfl.com/players/isaacbruce/profile?id=BRU085284
Trades:
Nearly impossible to forecast so i'm not going to try to.
2010 NFL Draft:
8# Ndamukong Suh NT Nebraska 6'4 310lbs
Gives us a true NT our D has been screaming our for. I think this would give us the makings of a very solid D. We'd have Seymour, Suh, Kelly, Shaughnessy, Ellis, Scott, rotating along the D-Line, two good Lbers in the backers corps and the standout secondary. Depth at DT would be needed but apart from that i like the crew we have assembled.
40# Kyle Calloway OT Iowa 6'7 315 lbs
A fine RT prospect, has everything i look for in a great OT at the next level. Not raw and doesn't have amazing "potential" (we all know what that leads to) but has experiance at LT and RT, has started since his Sophmore year. Has size, run blocking skills and frame (still has room to add more weight aswell) to be a very solid RT at the next level.
72# Mike Iupati OG Idaho 6'5 330lbs
A total monster at OG here, will probably go alot higher but i'm hoping he drops because of a relativly small school he attended. Dominated USC when he played them, has amazing drive blocking in the run game and his OT phyisique gives him a good pass blocking base.
92# Micah Johnson SLB Kentucky 6'2 260lbs
I'm totally in love with this dude. I think he will fall because his 40 time and overall athletic ability won't impress many people at the combine. But he is a total baller. Huge, thick frame, monster against the run, destroys plays going north to south. Not great in coverage but if we employed him as a 1 + 2 down speciality player with abit of blitzing thrown in he could be very useful.
114# Colt McCoy QB Texas 6'2 210lbs
I think he is the younger, more athletic and less injury prone version of Pennington. He is a game manager at the next level, but in the 4th is a steal of sorts and gives us a young QB for the so called guru Paul Hackett to work with.
156# Dan Williams NT Tennessee 6'4 330lbs
Think we need some more rotation inside, and the big man from Tennesse gives us this. Is a solid prospect, who should give us some nice 1st and 2nd down reps.
178# Crezdon Butler CB Clemson 6'0 190lbs
Really like this guy and he will fly up draft boards later on in the year. Is a shutdown corner, who's only weaknesses lie in coming up and making hits in the run game.
235# Mike Williams WR Syracruse 6'2 210lbs
Loved this kid until he quit school this week  Not sure why as of yet and not sure if i still want him after it. But its a 7th round pick, he has late 1st round talent and we are in DIRE need of a WR. He runs good routes, has good hands. Won't blow you away with physical skills but with Isaac Bruce tutoring him COULD be something special. Could be a total headcase though.
WR1: Chaz Schillens
WR2: Isaac Bruce
TE: Zack Miller
LT: Mario Henderson
LG: Robert Gallery
OC: Chris Morris
RG: Mike Iupati
RT: Kyle Calloway
QB: Chad Pennington
HB: Darren McFadden
FB: Gary Russell
LE: Matt Shaughnessy
NT: Ndamukong Suh
UT: Tommy Kelly
RE: Richard Seymour
SLB: Michah Johnson
MLB: Kirk Morrison
WLB: Thomas Howard
SS: Tyvone Branch
FS: Michael Huff
CB: Nnamdi
CB: Chris Johnson
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Al davis=0-16
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Mocks! 
| Quote: | 8# Ndamukong Suh NT Nebraska 6'4 310lbs
Gives us a true NT our D has been screaming our for. I think this would give us the makings of a very solid D. We'd have Seymour, Suh, Kelly, Shaughnessy, Ellis, Scott, rotating along the D-Line, two good Lbers in the backers corps and the standout secondary. Depth at DT would be needed but apart from that i like the crew we have assembled |
I like the pick, but do you think it would be realistic that Suh falls to #8? I would say no, he's too much of a sure thing to drop that low. But hey, what's wrong with wishful thinking 
| Quote: | 72# Mike Iupati OG Idaho 6'5 330lbs
A total monster at OG here, will probably go alot higher but i'm hoping he drops because of a relativly small school he attended. Dominated USC when he played them, has amazing drive blocking in the run game and his OT phyisique gives him a good pass blocking base. |
Your right, you've got him ranked way too low here man. Trust me, he won't fall based on which school he attended to, Iupati's the top OG in this class. So I don't see him still on the board at #72.
| Quote: | 92# Micah Johnson SLB Kentucky 6'2 260lbs
I'm totally in love with this dude. I think he will fall because his 40 time and overall athletic ability won't impress many people at the combine. But he is a total baller. Huge, thick frame, monster against the run, destroys plays going north to south. Not great in coverage but if we employed him as a 1 + 2 down speciality player with abit of blitzing thrown in he could be very useful |
Micah seems to be the popular pick around this forum. But I can see why, he could fill the SLB void we've been missing for quite awhile. But man, I still want to kick Kirk outside one day......
| Quote: | 178# Vince Oghobaase NT Duke 6'6 340lbs
Think we need some more rotation inside, and the big man from Duke gives us this. Is a solid prospect, who should give us some nice 1st and 2nd down reps. |
Since when was Oghobaase a NT? He's strickly a UT. Also he's not 340, he's more like 300-305, so I have no clue where you've gotten that from. Plus, I don't see him going that low, he's a 2nd round talent. He's really going to benefit from the Senior Bowl, I guarantee it.
So overall, this mock needs some work. It's a nice mock, but it's not that realistic IMO.
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I can see Suh dropping because of not blowing people away with his "upside" at the combine. In reality he is a monster with some of the best technique in the draft - JMO though.
Iupati has recently started to get national attention and has been moved up by alot of draft sites. To be honest you can replace him with a plethora of talent OG's because this draft is deep with them:
Sergio Render VT
Mike Johnson Bama
Rodney Hudson FSU (the best in the class IMO)
Thomas Austin Clemson
Zane Beadles Utah
Vladimir Ducasse Massachussets
Any of those at 72# would be great, to be honest i don't believe any OG is a shoe in 1st rounder at this point because the class is so deep. Anyone can rise and fall.
There is my reasoning.
Oghobaase is a total blunder on my part. I ment to put Dan Williams TEN down in that slot who is 6'4 330bs and fits my description very well (although i probably have been wish thinking on him slipping there aswell, its just very hard to predict at this stage - especially DTs who's stock is notioriously fickle). |
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| 91jmay wrote: | I can see Suh dropping because of not blowing people away with his "upside" at the combine. In reality he is a monster with some of the best technique in the draft - JMO though.
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Not blowing people away with his "upside" LOL
So being able to play multiple positions along the defensive line in different schemes calls for no upside huh?
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| Al davis=0-16 wrote: | | 91jmay wrote: | I can see Suh dropping because of not blowing people away with his "upside" at the combine. In reality he is a monster with some of the best technique in the draft - JMO though.
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Not blowing people away with his "upside" LOL
So being able to play multiple positions along the defensive line in different schemes calls for no upside huh? |
He doesn't have the athletic wow factor of any top 3 D-Linemen of the last 10 years.
He is a near clone of Haloti Ngata, who went 12th overall. His physical numbers won't be off the charts and i do forsee a slip. Maybe i'm wrong. |
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I lost you at "Al Davis resigns/retires" 
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| 91jmay wrote: | | Al davis=0-16 wrote: | | 91jmay wrote: | I can see Suh dropping because of not blowing people away with his "upside" at the combine. In reality he is a monster with some of the best technique in the draft - JMO though.
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Not blowing people away with his "upside" LOL
So being able to play multiple positions along the defensive line in different schemes calls for no upside huh? |
He doesn't have the athletic wow factor of any top 3 D-Linemen of the last 10 years.
He is a near clone of Haloti Ngata, who went 12th overall. His physical numbers won't be off the charts and i do forsee a slip. Maybe i'm wrong. |
For a guy of his stature, he is an athlete.
He's not a one-dimentional type player who lack speed or strength, he's the type who plays with both. In other words, he's the total package. That's what you want in a football player.
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| Al davis=0-16 wrote: | Mocks!
| Quote: | 8# Ndamukong Suh NT Nebraska 6'4 310lbs
Gives us a true NT our D has been screaming our for. I think this would give us the makings of a very solid D. We'd have Seymour, Suh, Kelly, Shaughnessy, Ellis, Scott, rotating along the D-Line, two good Lbers in the backers corps and the standout secondary. Depth at DT would be needed but apart from that i like the crew we have assembled |
I like the pick, but do you think it would be realistic that Suh falls to #8? I would say no, he's too much of a sure thing to drop that low. But hey, what's wrong with wishful thinking
| Quote: | 72# Mike Iupati OG Idaho 6'5 330lbs
A total monster at OG here, will probably go alot higher but i'm hoping he drops because of a relativly small school he attended. Dominated USC when he played them, has amazing drive blocking in the run game and his OT phyisique gives him a good pass blocking base. |
Your right, you've got him ranked way too low here man. Trust me, he won't fall based on which school he attended to, Iupati's the top OG in this class. So I don't see him still on the board at #72.
| Quote: | 92# Micah Johnson SLB Kentucky 6'2 260lbs
I'm totally in love with this dude. I think he will fall because his 40 time and overall athletic ability won't impress many people at the combine. But he is a total baller. Huge, thick frame, monster against the run, destroys plays going north to south. Not great in coverage but if we employed him as a 1 + 2 down speciality player with abit of blitzing thrown in he could be very useful |
Micah seems to be the popular pick around this forum. But I can see why, he could fill the SLB void we've been missing for quite awhile. But man, I still want to kick Kirk outside one day......
| Quote: | 178# Vince Oghobaase NT Duke 6'6 340lbs
Think we need some more rotation inside, and the big man from Duke gives us this. Is a solid prospect, who should give us some nice 1st and 2nd down reps. |
Since when was Oghobaase a NT? He's strickly a UT. Also he's not 340, he's more like 300-305, so I have no clue where you've gotten that from. Plus, I don't see him going that low, he's a 2nd round talent. He's really going to benefit from the Senior Bowl, I guarantee it.
So overall, this mock needs some work. It's a nice mock, but it's not that realistic IMO. |
I like him to but I thought 72# Mike Iupati OG From Idaho 6'5 330lbs played LG only.
Can Robert Gallery play RG. |
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Several things(don't get mad this is me being a draft nut)...
1. Ndamukong Suh will not make it out of the top 5. He's the most dominant defensive player in the entire country.
2. Calloway is good but not 2nd round good. 3rd or if he lasts to the 4th would be better value.
3. Iupati will be at the latest a mid 2nd rounder IMO. He's far and away the best OG in the class unless Rodney Hudson declares(very doubtful). Actually swap teh Calloway and Iupati picks and it'd be fine by me.
4. Sorry to say, but Micah Johnson will be drafted higher than that and it'll be by a 3-4 team. He's a 3-4 Ted all the way.
5. Glad you know how good McCoy is. So many people overrate him.
6. Dan Williams will go much higher simply because of needs at NT just like Sammie Lee Hill did last year. If you're picking Harbaugh as your coach and want a NT, Ekom Udofia will likely be there and he's one of the better NTs in the draft and he's from Stanford too.
7. Crezdon Butler is a borderline 1st round pick right now.  He'll probably be the biggest star at the combine among CBs as well.
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Lo ve the draft,I doubt it plays out close to that though,I dont see suh getting out of the top 5,and mike williams,even with his issues probably wont make it past round 4,But I totally agree with the idea of concentating on the trenches with our early picks,oh and I love the al davis part   |
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I think everyone likes ur draft because your giving us 2nd/3rd round talent in the 5th, 6th 7th round. I think you should do a little more research on where these prospects will go because not one of them is realistic IMO.
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Meh, every year we hear about people who won't make it out of the 1st and 2nd drop. Especially at DT remeber Frank Okam, Red Bryant, Pat Sims?
Perhaps i overrated Calloway and underrated Iupati - if i swap them that does make it more accurate.
Mike Williams probably won't get drafted especially with all his academic issues aswell.
http://www.ketv.com/news/21490971/detail.html - That could effect Suh's draft status (if you get two in the NFL you get a year long ban).
To be honest, its VERY hard to project a draft at the moment - if you dont like it fair enough but i think it would be a nice draft obviously i have been very unrealistic but hey. |
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Kevin Gilbride will be the Raiders HC next season and the 1st round pick will be the CB from Florida Joe Haden or Taylor Mays.
JaMarcus Russell will still be the QB. |
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| riceraider8080 wrote: | Several things(don't get mad this is me being a draft nut)...
1. Ndamukong Suh will not make it out of the top 5. He's the most dominant defensive player in the entire country.
2. Calloway is good but not 2nd round good. 3rd or if he lasts to the 4th would be better value.
3. Iupati will be at the latest a mid 2nd rounder IMO. He's far and away the best OG in the class unless Rodney Hudson declares(very doubtful). Actually swap teh Calloway and Iupati picks and it'd be fine by me.
4. Sorry to say, but Micah Johnson will be drafted higher than that and it'll be by a 3-4 team. He's a 3-4 Ted all the way.
5. Glad you know how good McCoy is. So many people overrate him.
6. Dan Williams will go much higher simply because of needs at NT just like Sammie Lee Hill did last year. If you're picking Harbaugh as your coach and want a NT, Ekom Udofia will likely be there and he's one of the better NTs in the draft and he's from Stanford too.
7. Crezdon Butler is a borderline 1st round pick right now. He'll probably be the biggest star at the combine among CBs as well. |
LOL i challenge you to find me a few creditable media sources or team sources which puts Bulter anywhere near the 1st round:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/CB.php
http://www.nflhouse.com/rankings/static/cb-rankings.html
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/prospects/db.html
Butler is gaining momentum, but to say he is a first round pick AS OF NOW is ridiculous. |
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