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sootedpair
Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 2188
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:34 am Post subject: My Skins mock |
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Here's just one idea I've had, let me know what you think. First day only. I may do another later.
Ok, this may be a stretch, but I say we trade Gardner and our 3rd to Cleveland for their 2nd.
K.C. wants to trade up to get Rolle so we trade the 9 and our 3rd rounder for the 15 and K.C.'s 2nd rounder.
15-Justin Tuck, DE, N.D. <-Jevon Kearse type of player
34-Chris Henry, WR, WVU or Fred Gibson, WR, UGA <-Both big guys that could turn out to be real stars
46-Fabian Washington, CB, Nebraska <-Great speed and could move in to the #2 spot after a season |
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TrueRedskin05 
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1018
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| i would not trade down we need to trade up and get mike man he will be a great endzone guy and we need to score touchdowns and last year we had all the small guys which we do now and no1 scored tds so i say trade gardner for a third then trade the 9th pick and 3rd round pick and next years third to cleveland |
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KCALLTHEWAY 
Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 2012
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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The Chiefs have to many needs to still fill, and people are saying that Rolle is better fit for Safety, why trade up when we can just stay put and steal Carlos Rogers at 15 _________________
^^art by ryknowssd
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riggensghost
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 403
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't Fabian Washington run faster than Deon in at the combine? He wont be around anywhere close to where we have a second draft pick at. |
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e16bball 
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with TrueRedskin to a certain extent.
We have a little bidding war going on for Gardner, lets trade him for the highest pick possible, which is probably Cleveland's 3rd (#67).
we then move that pick, along with our 9th and next year's fourth to the Bucs. It doesn't necessarily fulfill the draft pick value chart, but it's pretty close.
That leaves us with the 5th pick, all of our other original picks, and about 1.5M more cap room, which I think is a pretty nice arrangement.
We then draft:
1. Mike Williams
3. Darrent Williams (CB, Ok State) - He is so fast but small. If hes not there, I say someone like Ronald Bartell, Jr or Domonique Foxworth, but good CB depth would be nice in the 3rd.
4. Jovan Haye (DE, Vanderbilt) - He is a great athlete, but people are worried about his lack of production his senior year. If we could pick him up here it would be a steal, as hes quite a nice pass rush project.
6. Dave Kashetta (TE, Boston College) - He is not much of a speed guy, but has dependable hands and is a fairly dominant in-line blocker.
7. Lang Campbell (QB, William & Mary) - Smart and efficient, questionable arm strength. I can personally vouch for his winning spirit.
This draft fills some of our holes with depth and gives us possibly one of the more dominant WRs to come out in a while. I would be very excited about this draft. |
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sootedpair
Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 2188
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Did we trade up when we got LaVar and Samuels? I think we traded up for one of those picks and the other came from the Saints, but I'm not sure.
I'm just trying to figure out if the Skins have more of a history trading up or trading down. I personally don't think they'll go up to get Williams just because they'll have to go up too high thus give up a lot. I can easily see San Fran taking Williams. |
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redskins4life 
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 641 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| No trading up guys. Williams is good at 9th, or trade down for 1st and 2nd. I rather pick up a DE lower 1st and a CB in the 2nd. Also, if we can get a 3rd for Gardner, maybe somebody'll give us a 2nd for two 3rds. Another quality player can be picked up in the 2nd. |
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TheDoorKnob 
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 246 Location: Tyler,TX
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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man if yall got Tuck at 15 that would suck for yall becuase he will proably drop to the #28 pick or more
o and thoses trades would never happen _________________
I want Mathis Kiwianka next year.........
u know u do to |
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e16bball 
 Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 14976
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| TheDoorKnob wrote: | man if yall got Tuck at 15 that would suck for yall becuase he will proably drop to the #28 pick or more
o and thoses trades would never happen |
Well [inappropriate/removed]. Here I had planned these all trades out and decided why each team would do them, and then a Dallas fan educates me that they wouldn't happen. Gosh I feel so dumb. Would you please enlighten me as to why those trades wouldn't happen? |
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TheDoorKnob 
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 246 Location: Tyler,TX
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| e16bball wrote: | | TheDoorKnob wrote: | man if yall got Tuck at 15 that would suck for yall becuase he will proably drop to the #28 pick or more
o and thoses trades would never happen |
Well ****. Here I had planned these all trades out and decided why each team would do them, and then a Dallas fan educates me that they wouldn't happen. Gosh I feel so dumb. Would you please enlighten me as to why those trades wouldn't happen? |
K.C. would just get Pac-man Jones and not trade all that to just get A.Rolle and not to many people want R.Gardner becuase he is not that good and has a attudie problem so thier u go thats y it would never happen now i can see yall tradeing with San Diego with #9 pick for their #28 and #61 and then yall getting J.Tuck at #28 so their u go
......so did i enlighten and the answer is yes becuse i know what i am talking about and the guy how started this post did not ur welcome for the help _________________
I want Mathis Kiwianka next year.........
u know u do to |
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sootedpair
Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 2188
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| TheDoorKnob wrote: | K.C. would just get Pac-man Jones and not trade all that to just get A.Rolle and not to many people want R.Gardner becuase he is not that good and has a attudie problem so thier u go thats y it would never happen now i can see yall tradeing with San Diego with #9 pick for their #28 and #61 and then yall getting J.Tuck at #28 so their u go
......so did i enlighten and the answer is yes becuse i know what i am talking about and the guy how started this post did not ur welcome for the help |
Gardner isn't that bad either, nor does he have an attitude problem.
It doesn't appear that you know what you're talking about if you think that the #9 pick would only get the #28 and #61.
I won't argue where Tuck will go. It's a dumb argument. He's a different type of DE than the other top guys in my opinion. I think the Skins have a need for the type of player that Tuck is, therefore they take him when it's their pick. |
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e16bball 
 Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 14976
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Doorknob- I was referring to the trades I proposed, not the original trades. I assumed you were talking about my mock, as you posted right after I did. Yes his trades wont happen. At the same time, that Skins-Chargers trade won't happen either. I think my trades are very realistic, if we decide to trade up. |
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sootedpair
Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 2188
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| e16 why do you think that Williams will be there at #5? I think San Fran will take Edwards or Williams. That leaves the Bears at #4 to take the other. I think we'll have to go to #3 to get him, and I don't think he's worth it. |
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goskins
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 120
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: why |
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eball16
why would we draft a QB
we have ramsey brunell and hassle back
andthen hamden in NFL Europe
we we should just get a good big guard with those high picks _________________ GO SKINS |
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TheDoorKnob 
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 246 Location: Tyler,TX
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: why |
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| goskins wrote: | eball16
why would we draft a QB
we have ramsey brunell and hassle back
andthen hamden in NFL Europe
we we should just get a good big guard with those high picks |
are u dumb or something draft a Guard at #9 that would be the stupidist draft pick ever _________________
I want Mathis Kiwianka next year.........
u know u do to |
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