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Mr, Savages best move so far.... Trent Dilfer
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TommyLF


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not going to lie, I like the Trent Dilfer move. I wouldn't say that it is the best move by Savage, but it is a solid move. The trade for Dilfer is more of a stall than anything if you ask me. Dilfer isn't a permanent long term solution, but he is good enough for the next few years until we get a new, young, franchise type QB. I pray that the Browns don't take a QB with the #3 spot this year because the talent is just not there for any of them to be the next Peyton Manning. Maybe down the road in a few years, they will take a real Franchise Type QB in the draft.... Troy Smith Anybody? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Troy Smith lol.. but I love Swick too....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For some reason, I just love quarterbacks that are black. Troy Smith would fit this profile, so that's why I will tell you that Smith is better than Zwick any day of the week. Both our young, but right now, Smith has shown to be the better player. The kid used to play special teams and hit people at full speed. Now tell me, Did Zwick do that?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TommyLF wrote:
The kid used to play special teams and hit people at full speed. Now tell me, Did Zwick do that?


No, but he did clock a DE on an end around. I can't remember who it was against. That was the best block I saw all year (in college).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is true, I do remember Zwick doing that. But then again, I also saw Bellesari do that. And I don't think that I'd ever say that Bellesari is one of the best QB's from OSU. One hit in my opinion doesn't make a player, but it sure gives you hope of what could be. (If Zwick could throw the long ball, OSU would have two of the best QB's next year)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Touche.

Bellisari was the most painful player to watch in Scarlet and Gray.

Ever.

"Steve scrambles right, now left, now back 10 yards....SACK!!! THE BALL IS LOOSE!!!"

But he did have that one big block. Rolling Eyes

Putting him and Zwick in the same category isn't quite fair, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't Belesari become a safety or something at one point?

Anyway....back on topic. Dilfer is most likely a stopgap QB. We'll probably get to 9-7 or 10-6 at best with him. I'd like to see more of Luke McCown. Let's see what the kid can do when he isn't getting pressure on 3-step-drops. He did OK last year, until the end when his confidence looked like it was gone. I like his arm, the kids got a cannon.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trent Dilfer may be able to lead us to 10-6 IF we have a running attack. William Green and Suggs are both big question marks when it comes to their ability to bust out and have a decent season. No one has seen the full potential of either one, so if there is no run game, there is definitely no 10-6. Trust me, Teams can be good without a run game (Buckeyes 2 years ago) but that is only in the NCAA.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you smoking?
I'll repeat this, only because you people don't get it.

Lee Suggs ran for 744 yards last year in only 10 games and 4 starts.
In the games he played, he split carries w/ Green.
He was running behind perhaps the worst OL in the NFL
He was running with one of the worst offensive schemes in the NFL
He was running w/ a terrible pass game.
The coaches refused to use the BEST FB IN THE GAME Terrele Smith, except vs. Philly, where he and Green went over 100 yds

Suggs = Damn good rusher.
The browns had a pretty decent run game last year, all things considered. Running is not a question mark. Unless you count injuries. Suggs can have a big season, if he stays healthy. If he's healthy all next year, I guarantee a 1000+ yd season.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm right there with you Lacydog... that's why I dont want Ronnie Brown... to me, that would be an illogical pick...

Back off topic real quick.... While we are talking about OSU's big hits... Remember Nate Salley laying out David Baas? That has to be one of my Fave hits of all time....
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I understand where your coming from when you say Suggs is good... but he's only as good as he is healthy.

BTW: Nate Sally's hit was incredible! Wow, I love watching huge hits... Except for the ones like when RAy Lewis kills the Browns player in the opening scenes of Madden 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Dilfer get's us 10-6 and into the playoffs, we will all be happy.

I have to add this. Maybe a better move than Savage getting Dilfer was Mr. Lerner getting Savage. I mean Lerner gave absolute power to Butch which only leads to corruption and disfuction, then makes the perfect correction by getting Savage. Go figure. My guess is that Mr. Lerner learns fast and will enjoy be a Super Bowl Win soon.

Did anyone notice the non attention to Lerner now and towards Savage?

By the way, I still think Butch had a decend plan, but the more I read what you guys have to say, the more I realize just how bad he was at
f*%king up draft picks. Sorry, but damn, I agree with who ever said Savage has fixed in one week what Butch couln't in four years.

Savage also has a rabbit next. I know Browns fan are going to enjoy watching this guy work.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next year if he comes out if not the year after Omar Jacobs this should be out QB for the future he is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Leek= Franchise QB... Mark My Words
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that's Chris Leak... and he is very good...
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