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sootedpair


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Does anyone know the details of the contract?


The Times says 5yr $13 million w/ $3.5 million signing bonus.

http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20050304-121358-4055r.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Does anyone know the details of the contract?


The Times says 5yr $13 million w/ $3.5 million signing bonus.

http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20050304-121358-4055r.htm

Depending on how much is guaranteed, this is a very cap friendly signing.
Maybe Dan Snyder is learning his lesson. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Can I hand out my first "I told you so" now? Now that Gibbs is broken in to salary cap hell, I think we'll see a much more responsible Skins team.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Can I hand out my first "I told you so" now? Now that Gibbs is broken in to salary cap hell, I think we'll see a much more responsible Skins team.

Once you get into salary cap hell, There is no choice but to be responsible.
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sootedpair wrote:
Can I hand out my first "I told you so" now? Now that Gibbs is broken in to salary cap hell, I think we'll see a much more responsible Skins team.

Once you get into salary cap hell, There is no choice but to be responsible.


I meant that being in the league during the salary cap era is hell, not that the Skins are in a bad cap situation.

We're not too bad off cap wise being close to $10 million under. Not being able to trade Coles (not that I want him to go), and not being able to cut Brunell really sucks though.
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[quote Not being able to trade Coles (not that I want him to go), and not being able to cut Brunell really sucks though.[/quote]
You're right. That is a bad position to be in. Resigning Samuals was a good move for this years cap. How much will it hurt later though?

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How much will it hurt later though?


Good question. I'd like to find a site that has the breakdown of all of these signings.

Assuming there's no balloon payment (for lack of a better term), I'm not sure you can go wrong securing a quality LT like Samuels for the long term.
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That would be awesome to find a site that has the break down of all NFL players contracks
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://redskins.scout.com/3/salary_cap_chart.html
Last updated Feb 18, so it's not including anything that has happend.
It's not for all the Teams but if type in *Team Name* salary cap *Chart/List/Info* most should come up.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This was a post in askthecommish.

Salary Cap Update: March 4th


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Below is the amount of money each team is under the $85.5 million salary cap for 2005 as of March 4.

TEAM-BY-TEAM SALARY CAP UPDATE

Arizona Cardinals $19.2 million
Atlanta Falcons $4.3 million
Baltimore Ravens $14.4 million
Buffalo Bills $652,000
Carolina Panthers $3.4 million
Chicago Bears $8.6 million
Cincinnati Bengals $8.6 million
Cleveland Browns $8.9 million
Dallas Cowboys $11 million
Denver Broncos $1.7 million
Detroit Lions $9.1 million
Green Bay Packers $2.7 million
Houston Texans $8.9 million
Indianapolis Colts $7 million
Jacksonville Jaguars $13 million
Kansas City Chiefs $2.7 million
Miami Dolphins $2.4 million
Minnesota Vikings $31 million
New England Patriots $3.3 million
New Orleans Saints $8.7 million
New York Giants $5.6 million
New York Jets $5 million
Oakland Raiders $790,000
Philadelphia Eagles $14.4 million
Pittsburgh Steelers $1.5 million
St. Louis Rams $4.5 million
San Diego Chargers $11.1 million
San Francisco 49ers $7.6 million
Seattle Seahawks $6 million
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $700,000
Tennessee Titans $2.8 million
Washington Redskins $9.6 million
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Blknite01 wrote:
http://redskins.scout.com/3/salary_cap_chart.html
Last updated Feb 18, so it's not including anything that has happend.
It's not for all the Teams but if type in *Team Name* salary cap *Chart/List/Info* most should come up.

They might want to update that site. Feb 18, 2005? Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Blknite01 wrote:
http://redskins.scout.com/3/salary_cap_chart.html
Last updated Feb 18, so it's not including anything that has happend.
It's not for all the Teams but if type in *Team Name* salary cap *Chart/List/Info* most should come up.


Thanks for the link. That's the best I've seen so far.

Brunell's number doesn't add up though.
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I think we went after patton because we needed someone with the ability to stretch the field b/c we already know we are going after Williams in the draft who will not be a vertical threat unless we are talking about jump balls.

I think I see the master plan Gibbs has been talking about. (I'm just guessing,) but I think we trade rod gardner and our pick to move up and we head into the season with Mike Williams / Santana Moss and Patton/Jacobs and Thrash fighting for the 3rd spot.

Does anyone know why we haven't had any Free Agent DEs come in and visit DC? Are we looking at drafting one in the 3rd round?
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