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yordmachine
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 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: Treat Kevin Curtis more like a number 1 |
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I have somewhat followed Kevin Curtis from his days in St.Louis.
First he was a great 3rd string WR, then a good starter, now a true number 1. He was open at least 5 times during the Patriots game and Feeley didnt even look in his direction. If they treat him more like a 1 hed have stud number 1 Wr type stats, from what ive seen of him. What do you guys think about all the experts saying the Eagles need a true number 1 Wr, because i think they have one. |
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Phire
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We don't really have a number one in our system. Everyone gets the ball, and that's how we move down the field. I'm not too big on Curtis, I still think Westbrook is our best reciever.
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Can't say I agree. His hands are inconsistent, he's fast but not quick, and his routes are good but not that great. Overall, he (like most of our receivers) has the makeup of a solid #2 at best.
Still looking for that #1 guy.
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Eagles27
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Curtis is solid but he's not a number 1 IMO. He's too inconsistent and that's against single coverage a lot of the time. #1 WR's beat double coverage and play well consistently which Curtis doesn't do.
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Kevin Curtis is a #2 WR at best. There is no way he can be a #1 WR in any team.
Malcolm Kelly, Adarius Bowman, Limas Sweed, and James Hardy are the kind of #1 WR the Eagles should be looking for.
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Eagles27
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Eagles $5$ wrote: | Kevin Curtis is a #2 WR at best. There is no way he can be a #1 WR in any team.
Malcolm Kelly, Adarius Bowman, Limas Sweed, and James Hardy are the kind of #1 WR the Eagles should be looking for. |
I do NOT want Sweed but I would love Bowman or Hardy. I really believe if the eagles wanted Sweed they might as well had signed Mike Williams.
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| ok go26 wrote: | Can't say I agree. His hands are inconsistent, he's fast but not quick, and his routes are good but not that great. Overall, he (like most of our receivers) has the makeup of a solid #2 at best.
Still looking for that #1 guy. |
Well said. In my opinion though, we're lacking a #3 reciever more than anything. Jason Avant isn't even on pace to break 25 catches on the season, all while sporting a mediocre 12.3 YPC. At the NFL, if you want to be playing playoff ball, that just doesn't cut it period. Which is why I like this scenario best. Bring in a very talented reciever in from the draft, like James Hardy for example. Pencil him in as the #3 with the occasional spot start, along with 40 catches, 600 yards and 5 touchdowns. Don't worry about him for the rest of the season. That along with production from the other recievers, the tight-ends, and runningbacks equals a good passing game. Best of all, the next year he's a #1 reciever.
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[quote="phillyphanatic"] | ok go26 wrote: | Can't say I agree. His hands are inconsistent, he's fast but not quick, and his routes are good but not that great. Overall, he (like most of our receivers) has the makeup of a solid #2 at best.
Still looking for that #1 guy. |
Well said. In my opinion though, we're lacking a #3 reciever more than anything. Jason Avant isn't even on pace to break 25 catches on the season, all while sporting a mediocre 12.3 YPC. At the NFL, if you want to be playing playoff ball, that just doesn't cut it period. Which is why I like this scenario best. Bring in a very talented reciever in from the draft, like James Hardy for example. Pencil him in as the #3 with the occasional spot start, along with 40 catches, 600 yards and 5 touchdowns. Don't worry about him for the rest of the season. That along with production from the other recievers, the tight-ends, and runningbacks equals a good passing game. Best of all, the next year he's a #1 reciever.[/quote]
Haven't we tried and thought that already with Reggie!!!!!!
Curtis was missed several times against the Pats and yes he is Talented and Fast, but he's not a #1. Nor do I think any WR in the draft will be our #1 in 2008 or even 2009 if were lucky. We need to somehow Trade for a proven #1 WR regardless of what it takes and put Curtis in the slot like NE does Welker. Thats what we're missing.
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stevec0008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| phillyphanatic wrote: | | ok go26 wrote: | Can't say I agree. His hands are inconsistent, he's fast but not quick, and his routes are good but not that great. Overall, he (like most of our receivers) has the makeup of a solid #2 at best.
Still looking for that #1 guy. |
.....doesn't cut it period. Which is why I like this scenario best. Bring in a very talented reciever in from the draft, like James Hardy for example. Pencil him in as the #3 with the occasional spot start, along with 40 catches, ... |
You have to IMO, i mean look at CJohnson.
Best WR in years, and hes only a number 2, so he can adjust to the speed, the new playbook, and get a read for our QB(whomever that will be next year) |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| stevec0008 wrote: | | phillyphanatic wrote: | | ok go26 wrote: | Can't say I agree. His hands are inconsistent, he's fast but not quick, and his routes are good but not that great. Overall, he (like most of our receivers) has the makeup of a solid #2 at best.
Still looking for that #1 guy. |
.....doesn't cut it period. Which is why I like this scenario best. Bring in a very talented reciever in from the draft, like James Hardy for example. Pencil him in as the #3 with the occasional spot start, along with 40 catches, ... |
You have to IMO, i mean look at CJohnson.
Best WR in years, and hes only a number 2, so he can adjust to the speed, the new playbook, and get a read for our QB(whomever that will be next year) |
yea him being a number 2 may also have to do with roy williams being on their team. in my opinion we need a true number one receiver if we want to be a contender next year. i dont personally like any receivers in this upcoming draft. it would be great if we could get a guy like bryant johnson who i think would flourish in our system. of course chad johnson would be ideal but i dont see that working out
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Phire
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I would take a proven, dominant veteran through a trade or the free agency over any body in this year's draft. I don't see any of them making great pros, and the failure rate of receivers in the NFL is extremely high.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Phire wrote: | | I would take a proven, dominant veteran through a trade or the free agency over any body in this year's draft. I don't see any of them making great pros, and the failure rate of receivers in the NFL is extremely high. |
Lets say the Cincinnati Bengals don’t want to trade Chad Johnson, there is no other "Dominant Veteran" in the Free Agency or Trade...
A lot of things can change from no to the draft, but I say we draft a WR like Adarius Bowman or Malcolm Kelly and finally get that #1 WR we have always wanted. We also give a reliable target to Kevin Kolb, and they can kinda of like grow up together... A best friend QB is his WR.
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Phire
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| Eagles $5$ wrote: | | Phire wrote: | | I would take a proven, dominant veteran through a trade or the free agency over any body in this year's draft. I don't see any of them making great pros, and the failure rate of receivers in the NFL is extremely high. |
Lets say the Cincinnati Bengals don’t want to trade Chad Johnson, there is no other "Dominant Veteran" in the Free Agency or Trade...
A lot of things can change from no to the draft, but I say we draft a WR like Adarius Bowman or Malcolm Kelly and finally get that #1 WR we have always wanted. We also give a reliable target to Kevin Kolb, and they can kinda of like grow up together... A best friend QB is his WR. |
You never know who might become available.
I'm not really a fan of early wideouts.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Treat Kevin Curtis more like a number 1 |
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| yordmachine wrote: | | What do you guys think about all the experts saying the Eagles need a true number 1 Wr, because i think they have one. |
The Eagles don't have a #1 WR. The ideal #1 WR that we had in Philly was T.O., but his mouth got him hated and in trouble. If we could draft a big physical, tallented WR,(like T.O. is but without the mouth) he is who we should have as a #1.
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Phire
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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True #1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGC-19d2q18
I wish we had another 2004 type offseason, bring in the best offensive and defensive players available.
Their careers here weren't very long, but they produced.
EDIT: Not http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ugo8b7WDaMI
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