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Iamcanadian


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

candyman93 wrote:
About Hubbard,

OSU rotates a TON of guys on the d-line. Tyquan Lewis, Jalyn Holmes, Nick Bosa, and Chase Young will all be playing on Sundays. He will get lost in the shuffle.


I don't think so, all the powerhouses like Ohio St. and Alabama have tons of talent and rotate a lot of players through a game, I seriously doubt Hubbard gets lost in the crowd. He is a real talent who will be counted on even more this season and will establish himself as a legitimate 1st round talent.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iamcanadian wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
About Hubbard,

OSU rotates a TON of guys on the d-line. Tyquan Lewis, Jalyn Holmes, Nick Bosa, and Chase Young will all be playing on Sundays. He will get lost in the shuffle.


I don't think so, all the powerhouses like Ohio St. and Alabama have tons of talent and rotate a lot of players through a game, I seriously doubt Hubbard gets lost in the crowd. He is a real talent who will be counted on even more this season and will establish himself as a legitimate 1st round talent.



candy knows more than anyone, the first few games outside of Oklahoma, he will play in the second half of those games to give some of the younger guys reps,but in the second half of they year the will get all of the reps along with the core guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justo wrote:
Seen every pass-rusher with 5+ sacks returning to Power 5 play, senior Group of 5.

Tier 1 (all eligible):
Harold Landry, Boston College
Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma
Arden Key, LSU (junior)
Dorance Armstrong, Kansas (junior)
Porter Gustin, USC (junior)
Clelin Ferrell, Clemson (redshirt sophomore)

Tier 2 (seniors only):
Duke Ejiofor, Wake Forest
Bradley Chubb, North Carolina State
Tyquan Lewis, Ohio State

Tier 3 (seniors only):
Garrett Hughes, New Mexico


Kylie Fitts (Utah) 7 sacks, 4 FF in 2015. Only played 1 game last year, due to injury(1.5 sacks in that game). Was given a medical redshirt and should put up 10+ sacks with Dimick graduating.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there are 4 juniors who could all be solid 1st round picks.

Arden Key, LSU
Dorance Armstrong, Kansas
Sam Hubbard, Ohio St.
Clelin Ferrell, Clemson

Key has the potential to be a dominate sack man.
Armstrong has little around him to help on defense and might turnout to be the best of the lot. he'll battle Key for best defensive player in the draft.
Hubbard plays for Ohio St. and really wasn't turned loose surrounded by many solid players and often rotated out of the deep Ohio St. lineup. However, he will be counted on a lot more this season and could really take the next step forward.
Clemson just keeps sending solid pros to the NFL and Ferrell will be no different.

Gustin, USC and Landry, Boston College look decent, but I am not a fan of Okoronkwo, Oklahoma.
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Iamcanadian wrote:
I think there are 4 juniors who could all be solid 1st round picks.

Arden Key, LSU
Dorance Armstrong, Kansas
Sam Hubbard, Ohio St.
Clelin Ferrell, Clemson

Key has the potential to be a dominate sack man.
Armstrong has little around him to help on defense and might turnout to be the best of the lot. he'll battle Key for best defensive player in the draft.
Hubbard plays for Ohio St. and really wasn't turned loose surrounded by many solid players and often rotated out of the deep Ohio St. lineup. However, he will be counted on a lot more this season and could really take the next step forward.
Clemson just keeps sending solid pros to the NFL and Ferrell will be no different.

Gustin, USC and Landry, Boston College look decent, but I am not a fan of Okoronkwo, Oklahoma.


I think Ferrell might enter for 2019
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top5Fitz wrote:
I think Ferrell might enter for 2019

I hope not.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scouting report on Arden Key, DE, LSU

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000815392/article/first-look-scouting-lsu-lb-arden-key
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised to see Bradley Chubb getting so little love. I'll be real surprised if he doesn't end up going top 20.
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alleycat wrote:
Surprised to see Bradley Chubb getting so little love. I'll be real surprised if he doesn't end up going top 20.

From my brief viewings (casually watching cuts, not breaking them down) a lot of his sacks are effort, being moved around, missed interior blocks, other pressure flowing the QB to him. He's not exploding, bending the corner and making tough sacks that translate to a 12-15 sack guy in the NFL. Good player. He's just not a blue-chip rusher from what I've seen. He's intriguing though. He could be a guy I put in the top 20 in the end just because he's well-rounded enough and versatile. Linebacker background, still raw.
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