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Who gets Kai Nacua?
NudeTayne to raise as a village with all our valuable members
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 80%  [ 4 ]
Mind Character to put on the practice squad and forget about
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 20%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:44 pm    Post subject: Adopt-a-Kai-Nacua thread Reply with quote

After having shared in the tragic agony of being torn apart by who would be our papa bear (hint: it's Brock), I just want to get out in front of this and make sure that this time the most important one involved, our helpless draft baby Kai Nacua, is loved and nurtured properly.

We all saw what happened when Deshone Kizer had been given to a loving family--brownie man--but was then taken away by the state (DD) after an anonymous phone call and eventually discarded as a



Let us all look in the mirror and see the eyes of resolve gazing kindly back, accepting full culpability in ensuring that no Kai Nacua is left behind (on a practice squad & then picked up by the Steelers). I present this urgent issue at the feet of the scales of justice for my forum family to decide. Please, I ask that however you choose to rule, do what is best for baby Kai.



Exhibit A:

Mind Character wrote:
My Projected 53-man roster.
--Comments on the new, surprise, or unheralded players.

OFFENSE

QB 3
Cody Kessler
Brock Osweiller,
DeShone Kizer


RB 3
Isaiah Crowell,
Duke Johnson,
Matt Dayes


FB - 1
Danny Vitale


WR - 5
Corey Coleman,
Kenny Britt,

Rannell Hall - Competitive Fire, Strong to the ball, precise routes, would've made the team and surprised if he didn't get injured. In college, he was used as a catch and run, 3rd down specialist. Has some Jarvis Landry in his game.
Ricardo Louis, - Hands and concentration drops are his only problem. Ran good routes last year to get open but couldn't finish. Athleticism and ability to get open puts him over Higgins and Payton.
James Wright - 3rd down specialist as well. Veteran presence, reliable route runner. Strong ability to get open and runs precise come back routes.

TE 3
David Njoku,
Seth DeValve,
Randall Telfer
- Telfer is the most underrated player on the team. One of the best in-line blockers in the entire league. Has down the field catch ability as well. A younger, more explosive and athletic Gary Barnidge. There was no reason to keep big play Gare with his declining movement skills. Looked like he was running in sand. Loved Gary as a person and Browns fighter. Salute to him.

LT 2
Joe Thomas,
Roderick Johnson
- Horrible contact balance and is always a waist bender. Would be better in a zone scheme under Kyle Shannahan. I don't think he has the body coordination or balance for the pros imo. Elite length. Where he was selected predicates that he probably makes the team.

LG 2
Joel Bitonio,
Spencer Drango



C 2
J.C. Tretter,
Marcus Martin

-Starter ability. Needs to improve. A new chance and Coach Wylie can help him improve.

RG 2
Kevin Zeitler
Chris Barker- A younger Greco with better movement skills and punch. Was a better OL at Nevada than Bitonio in terms of Guard play. Bitonio was better at OT.


RT 2
Cameron Erving,- No one really knows Cam's ability as they only have known him as a Browns center. In that way, he's not good, but his play at tackle at FSU made me have him as a top 3 tackle prospect heading into the draft. Coming out of FSU, Cam showed elite balance and kick step foot quickness as a tackle. Long arms and punch on the outside makes Cam a strong starter at tackle.
Shon Coleman
- Like Coleman a lot, but he stands on stilts with poor contact balance and uncoordinated movement skills. Strong/elite punch and it's over if he can get his hands on you.


DEFENSE

RDE - 3
Myles Garrett,
Tyrone Holmes,
--Special burst and finishing ability. TFL specialist. Was not a 34OLB.
Nate Orchard - Had a rough rookie year and was injured his second. Before injury, he was our best against the run. His skills are slept on. I still think he can be a special role player in the 43.


DT - 3
Desmond Bryant,- Special athlete with elite length and hand punching strength. Might be a breakout player in 43.
Larry Ogunjobi,
Xavier Cooper- Skills were hidden by the 34. Out of Wash St. he was a special rusher with hand fighting technique and elite get off. Those down on him have not paid attention to his skill set (imo) and college tape.

NT 2
Danny Shelton,
Caleb Brantley,
- His skill set at Florida was the double arm press, hold the blocker, Find the ball, Throw the Blocker off...Strong qualities as a NT in 43. Can win with quickness and strength as a 3-tech as well.


LDE- 2
Emmanuel Ogbah,
Carl Nassib


WLB 2
Christian Kirksey,
Ladell Fleming
- Watch the tape. He's a special, special player. Game is very much like a an instinctual Jamie Collins but with more length. He adds special edge rush ability as well. Ability jumps off the screen. It will be too risky to cut him for the practice squad. Will have standout moments in camp and be seen as a developmental starter if the mental aspect of the game is not too much. Don't know the player in terms of work ethic. If it's there, he won't just make the team but he'll be inserted into the lineup as an edge or inside rusher in some sub packages.

MLB 2

Demario Davis
 - Dominque Alexander is very limited athletically and was only a 34ILB and will be cut; however, Demario is in the best shape of his life and has always had elite instincts. He's slimmed down specifically for 43 and his knowledge of the game and leadership gives him the edge to start. A lot of ppl are down on Demario. Based on the tape I am not.
James Burgess - Watch his tape as well. He's also a special developmental impact player with elite instincts and athleticism to avoid guards in order to make TFLs. He might beat out Demario for the starting job.

SLB - 2
Jamie Collins,
Joe Schobert
- Perfect fit in the 43 sam role with Gregg Williams being able to call parellel twists/blitzes for Collins and Schobert.

CB 5 b/c 6th Howard Wilson won't count against the 53 b/c they'll start him out on PUP
Joe Haden,
Briean Boddy-Calhoun,
Trey Caldwell
- Watch his college tape. Elite foot speed, competitive fire, and attacks the ball often going through the bigger/taller receiver to win the ball. I see him as a strong developmental starter. If healthy this year, his ability will shine.
Jamar Taylor,
Marcus Burley
- Safety/corner versatility and starter experience at corner.
Howard Wilson --On PUP to start out season


FS 2
Jason McCourty
Ed Reynolds


SS 2
Jabrill Peppers,
Derek Kindred,



SPECIAL TEAMS - 3
P 1
Britton Colquitt


K 1
Zane Gonzalez


LS 1

Charley Hughlett


PR/KR
Ricardo Louis // Jabrill Peppers


Practice Squad - 10. 11th player b/c not all will make it through waivers
WR Jordan Payton--Might make it through to PS due to PED flag.
WR Rashard Higgins, - Possession receiver alone. Does not have enough burst and quickness for long term roster impact. Love the player and person. Football skill has limited upside. Makes the roster this year but will be upgraded next year.
C Austin Reiter
OT Zach Sterup-Final practice Squad year. Might make it through to PS b/c of PED issue.
FS Tyvis Powell
FS Kai Nacua
CB Channing Stribling,
CB Najee Murray,
CB J.D. Harmon,
LB B.J. Bello- Better movement and instinctual skills than Dominique Alexander.
C Anthony Fabiano


I get it, Mind; Kai is no Randall Telfer, Ricardo Lewis, Cameron Irving, James Wright or Marcus Burley...

Exhibit B:

Mind Character wrote:
I actually think this move means we try Jabrill at FS due to his superior athletic and movement skills.

Calvin is much more of a box player than Jabrill.

I think Pryor may still be on the SS preference tip. He will have to get with the program under Gregg Williams, but I actually see peppers being tried at FS first now.

For those that would bet against Jabrill claiming to have "seen" his limitations, when Jabrill was put in the deep third range role he excelled. He did more of this last year in the games I watched, and he can excel there as well in the league; however, based on his instinctual fundamentals and learned eye discipline is more conducive to the SS in-box playmaker role.


I get it, Mind; Kai is no Calvin Pryor, and even though Nacua excelled as a ball hawk, we should move Jabrill to FS for his most important developmental time as a player so we can fit Pryor into a starter position right away.



Exhibit C:

Mind Character took Kai Nacua out of his sig right around draft time. I mean, who does that? #coldblooded

Exhibit D:Nude Tayne has Kai Nacua in his sig right now, the most important time period. I mean, who else does that? #warmblooded

Exhibit E:
Mind Character talks about Kai way less than Dizzy talks about Brock. I respect the heck out of that, Dizzy, even if you had to kick all the other eggs off the cliff in order to nurture Brok.

Exhibit F:
I made this. I mean, I made it. And I took a stand for one whom could not speak for himself:

[/quote]

NudeTayne wrote:
In other news...HOW DARE YOU, MIND CHARACTER! HOW DARE YOU! HOW DARE YOU. After the fire of Kai Nacua burned at the core of your very being, you so quickly and casually assign him to the practice squad. I was all ready for when Nacua becomes our starting FS on opening day to make you your own, "Malik Hooker who? CLEVEY has a big time FS Mind Character victory lap thread", but you broke my heart.


Exhibit G:

Kai was under Mind Character's care and the apartment wasn't properly Nacua-proofed; however, Mind was in the other room watching Sam Darnold tape. "Whoops. My bad." Confused Sad

Exhibit H:

Mind Character wrote:
F-that Tayne....that thread's time shall be here soon enough. Just be ready to fire that thing off when Nacua has 2 INTs in preseason.

So, don't get it twisted....I'm still a strong believer in Kai Nacua's skill.

But as you know, constructing a practice squad is a skill and art with the goal being putting players on the PS based on 1) Their developmental starter ability and, 2) (And most importantly,) their ability to pass waivers to the PS at the 53-man cut.

I think both Nacua and Tyvis have the ability to pass through waivers to the PS to be on the season roster with Nacua possibly being more likely than Tyvis.

Cutting Nacua for the PS allows us to keep players we believe in that no longer have PS eligibility or would certainly be picked up on the waiver wire...like a Xavier Cooper, Desmond Bryant, or Nate Orchard.

So, Nacua going undrafted gives us a chance to stash him away on the PS and keep a veteran on the active 53-man roster.

I can't see the coaches carrying more than 4 safeties given the talent/skill depth at other positions (DT, DE, OL). Therefore, giving him or Tyvis the nod over a newly signed FS transitioned Jason McCourty and a proven veteran backup with leadership skills like Ed Reynolds just didnt seem likely.

If Tyvis or Kai flash run stopping ability (which is important for Gregg Williams), then they would get the 53-man roster nod over Ed Reynolds.

We shall see...keep that thread in the mind cue for all to revel in.........


I get it, Mind; Kai is no Seahawks castoff Tyvis Powell, Ed Reynolds, Xavier Cooper, Nate Orchard or DT logjam Dez Bryant. I get it; Nacua won't be worth picking up for free for 31 other teams. We all get it, Mind.

Thank you all for your time and consideration. Future Hall of Famer #43 Kai Nacua is in my prayers. Please do what is right.


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Ya might wanna remove Davis from that depth chart.
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DizzyDean wrote:
Ya might wanna remove Davis from that depth chart.


Get 'em, Dizzy!
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Wait...wasn't this thread just locked.......

In before the second lock.

Tayne, I applaud the amount of time in constructing the first post for entertainment...absolutely off the wall gifs and pics. Made me laugh.


Kai's talent's doesn't belong to me or anyone but to the World. But...I've been looking out for Kai from the beginning even when you weren't around. You act like you care now But.....Where were you Tayne when on Sat, March 25 after Kai's wonderful pro day when I posted the following:

Mind Character wrote:


My favorite range playmaker FS sleeper had a big pro day:

Kai Nacua
40yd dash: 4.49-4.52 (top 6 at combine)
3-cone: 6.84 (Top 5 at combine)
Broad Jump: 10-7 (Top 5 at combine)
Vert: 39-inches (Top 3 at combine)
Bench press: 15 reps (Top 13 at combine)

He played a little big this past season. Moved well.

6 Ints in back to back seasons.


I don't think we can get up high enough for Malik Hooker, but if we can trade up for Jamal Adams and come back later with Kai I'd be gettin my two step dance on during the draft.


Or where were you Tayne when I announced in March that I would "stand on the table" for Kai...do you know how hard it it to stand on the table?


Mind Character wrote:

Players I'd "Stand on the table" for:

My favorite, got to have players in the draft are the following. These are the players I feel the Browns have to get. These are the special players throughout the draft I'd "stand on the table for." Some are known/popular players others are unheralded.


43 Edge:
Myles Garrett: Elite edge burst rush, effective inside corner, elite dip and flatten to the QB balance and power.

DT:
Glen Antoine: More powerful Grady Jarrett. A run monster and line recker with immense upside as 43 line stabilizer.

LB:
N/A---Like a lot of prospect like Duke Riley, Hassan Reddick, etc...but not in the got to have it they're so specail way

WRs:
JuJu Smith-Schuster: The next Jarvis Landry and Anquan Boldin Possession receiver monster. So so strong to the ball. Is not the top 10 pick Julio or AJ Green type that he was hyped with, but in the slot he will be a pro bowl possession receiver.

Jerome Lane Jr: So physical. Exquisite routes off the line to beat press. Strong hands. Anquan Boldin possession monster.

Speedy Noil: One of the most competitive to the ball and hard nosed receivers with elite quickness and burst. Didn't see the field for off field issues and WR depth at TAMU, but he has pro bowl number 2 receiver upside.

Zay Jones: More twitchy, less strong Michael Thomas. They are the exact same player. Pristine routes, strong hands, relentless worker.

Mike Williams: On the elite tier of combat catching with Dez Bryant and AJ Green. Not the all everything WR like Green or Julio, but the ball thrown his way is always high pointed and always his.


Nickel/S:
Budda Baker: You all know I can't go a day without talking about Budda. Instinctive ball hawk. Elite competitiveness. Solid tackler.

Dorian Williams, Princeton: A missile. Knows only one speed...and that's all out. Instinctive


S:
Malik Hooker: Got....to....get...him. Some way...somehow. Elite range playmaker. Period. But his tackling is....blah blah. Nope. Get him.

Jamal Adams: Got...to...get...him...Some way...somehow. But he doesn't blah blah....Nope. Please get him. Elite energy...tone setter in the back end. Box playmaker extraordinaire.

Kai Nacua: Instinctive, range playmaking ball hawk. Plays with serious competitive fire. Been on him as a developmental pro bowler for a year and a half.


OL:
N/A--Like a lot of guys but none enough to stand on the table for or feel like we have to have them.

RBs:
Alvin Kamara: All everything RB. 70 plus receptions with over 1200rushing yards type of back. Elite balance and quickness.

Curtis Samuel: Yes, I see him as RB. A more explosive and sturdy Duke Johnson type. Great feet in the hole and explosion to and through the second level

Leonard Fournette: Bigger, Faster, Stronger, Jamal Lewis. Elite quick foot patter balance just like Jamal. Great feet in the whole and to the next level. Vision is not as elite.


QBs:
N/A---Like a lot..Kizer, Trub, Dobbs' football character, etc...none on the got to have list

TEs:
Cole Hikutini: Burst, Hands, elite route running. Been on his game since November.

OJ Howard: All everything TE. Elite at separation routes over the middle.

George Kittle: Strong blocker, great burst, great hands, all everything.

Jake Butt: All everthing TE, with elite competitiveness. Best High point catching TE.


CBs
Damontae Kazee : Elite competitiveness, strong tackler, great ball skills.

Sidney Jones: Elite ball skills, elite poise and calm, great feet mirror technique, natural cover corner.



Practice squad or not...I've always believed. Tayne, the practice squad will create the hunger necessary to drive Kai to the obvious 5 consecutive pro bowls he is headed to. It's what's best for him.

Only one thing left to say........

Believe!!!



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mind Character wrote:
Wait...wasn't this thread just locked.......

In before the second lock.

Tayne, I applaud the amount of time in constructing the first post for entertainment...absolutely off the wall gifs and pics. Made me laugh.


Kai's talent's doesn't belong to me or anyone but to the World. But...[b]I've been looking out for Kai from the beginning even when you weren't around. You act like you care now But.....Where were you Tayne when on Sat, March 25 after Kai's wonderful pro day when I posted the following: [/b]


Yes, I remember a time when your heart beat a sonorous note. Twas March, yes? But the World? Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Cincinnati are also in/of the World. Baby Kai is too precious for the World. Cleveland is Cleveland, not the World, and my Kai belongs in Cleveland; it's his home.

But where was I on Sat, March 25? Let's not make this about you & me, Mind. Let's not do that. I was there with tears streaming down my cheeks as I saved Kai's pro day numbers to my windows notepad file whispering almost inaudibly, "Bravo, young chap...bravo." I was cheering you along as well, old boy, though you seem to have turned your back on all my support in all your to-do.

Mind Character wrote:
My favorite range playmaker FS sleeper had a big pro day:

Kai Nacua
40yd dash: 4.49-4.52 (top 6 at combine)
3-cone: 6.84 (Top 5 at combine)
Broad Jump: 10-7 (Top 5 at combine)
Vert: 39-inches (Top 3 at combine)
Bench press: 15 reps (Top 13 at combine)

He played a little big this past season. Moved well.

6 Ints in back to back seasons.


I don't think we can get up high enough for Malik Hooker, but if we can trade up for Jamal Adams and come back later with Kai I'd be gettin my two step dance on during the draft.


Mind Character wrote:
Or where were you Tayne when I announced in March that I would "stand on the table" for Kai...do you know how hard it it to stand on the table?


I do know. I do. I have played the treacherous game of tables, and I have fallen the good fall a time or two.



Mind Character wrote:

Players I'd "Stand on the table" for:

My favorite, got to have players in the draft are the following. These are the players I feel the Browns have to get. These are the special players throughout the draft I'd "stand on the table for." Some are known/popular players others are unheralded.


43 Edge:
Myles Garrett: Elite edge burst rush, effective inside corner, elite dip and flatten to the QB balance and power.

DT:
Glen Antoine: More powerful Grady Jarrett. A run monster and line recker with immense upside as 43 line stabilizer.

LB:
N/A---Like a lot of prospect like Duke Riley, Hassan Reddick, etc...but not in the got to have it they're so specail way

WRs:
JuJu Smith-Schuster: The next Jarvis Landry and Anquan Boldin Possession receiver monster. So so strong to the ball. Is not the top 10 pick Julio or AJ Green type that he was hyped with, but in the slot he will be a pro bowl possession receiver.

Jerome Lane Jr: So physical. Exquisite routes off the line to beat press. Strong hands. Anquan Boldin possession monster.

Speedy Noil: One of the most competitive to the ball and hard nosed receivers with elite quickness and burst. Didn't see the field for off field issues and WR depth at TAMU, but he has pro bowl number 2 receiver upside.

Zay Jones: More twitchy, less strong Michael Thomas. They are the exact same player. Pristine routes, strong hands, relentless worker.

Mike Williams: On the elite tier of combat catching with Dez Bryant and AJ Green. Not the all everything WR like Green or Julio, but the ball thrown his way is always high pointed and always his.


Nickel/S:
Budda Baker: You all know I can't go a day without talking about Budda. Instinctive ball hawk. Elite competitiveness. Solid tackler.

Dorian Williams, Princeton: A missile. Knows only one speed...and that's all out. Instinctive


S:
Malik Hooker: Got....to....get...him. Some way...somehow. Elite range playmaker. Period. But his tackling is....blah blah. Nope. Get him.

Jamal Adams: Got...to...get...him...Some way...somehow. But he doesn't blah blah....Nope. Please get him. Elite energy...tone setter in the back end. Box playmaker extraordinaire.

Kai Nacua: Instinctive, range playmaking ball hawk. Plays with serious competitive fire. Been on him as a developmental pro bowler for a year and a half.


Mind Character wrote:
Practice squad or not...I've always believed. Tayne, the practice squad will create the hunger necessary to drive Kai to the obvious 5 consecutive pro bowls he is headed to. It's what's best for him.

Only one thing left to say........

Believe!!!



http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=586203&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=720


No Kai of mine is going on the practice squad. We cannot allow it. We don't want him to leave Cleveland and brave that dark world of white suits, pizza parlors and backrooms at bars; Kai is too pure.
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