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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Brantley charges dropped looks like he will be compared with Vanderdoes for there careers.


Got Damnit! I mean good for him but he was compared to Aaron Donald. I had him as a late 1st to mid 2nd talent wise. Maybe he had other character concerns besides the club issue. Of course, I trust Reggie but the Browns seem to have gotten a steal in the 6th. I hope Eddie comes out like a monster now more than ever.
Yeah I mean if Vanderdoes start off slow and Brantley does well we're going to have the hindsight people in here whining that Reggie should have taken Brantley in the 3rd and so on.
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the hindsight will be there with brantley because you cant play the character concern card after drafting conley in the first...
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dumb NFL rules will keep Eddie from all the rest of our OTAs and mini camps this summer til the June 16 when the UCLA qtr ends. The next time he will be with the team is late July for training camp. He gets to study the playbook and talk to coaches but can't workout or practice with the team. I hope he just goes back to the training facility where he prepared for the combine and Rookie mini camp. Don't need him packing on any weight.




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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightTrainLane wrote:
raidr4life wrote:
Brantley charges dropped looks like he will be compared with Vanderdoes for there careers.


Got Damnit! I mean good for him but he was compared to Aaron Donald. I had him as a late 1st to mid 2nd talent wise. Maybe he had other character concerns besides the club issue. Of course, I trust Reggie but the Browns seem to have gotten a steal in the 6th. I hope Eddie comes out like a monster now more than ever.

This is preposterous. Brantley was a rotational player at Florida and he doesn't touch Donald's athleticism. Heck, Brantley is barely in Vanderdoes' ballpark when it comes to athleticism.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raiderrocker18 wrote:
the hindsight will be there with brantley because you cant play the character concern card after drafting conley in the first...

If they would have had taken him I wouldnt have been mad but imagine media frenzy if they had.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich7sena wrote:
NightTrainLane wrote:
raidr4life wrote:
Brantley charges dropped looks like he will be compared with Vanderdoes for there careers.


Got Damnit! I mean good for him but he was compared to Aaron Donald. I had him as a late 1st to mid 2nd talent wise. Maybe he had other character concerns besides the club issue. Of course, I trust Reggie but the Browns seem to have gotten a steal in the 6th. I hope Eddie comes out like a monster now more than ever.

This is preposterous. Brantley was a rotational player at Florida and he doesn't touch Donald's athleticism. Heck, Brantley is barely in Vanderdoes' ballpark when it comes to athleticism.


And yet it happened. Not that I agree.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/caleb-brantley?id=2558007
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich7sena wrote:
NightTrainLane wrote:
raidr4life wrote:
Brantley charges dropped looks like he will be compared with Vanderdoes for there careers.


Got Damnit! I mean good for him but he was compared to Aaron Donald. I had him as a late 1st to mid 2nd talent wise. Maybe he had other character concerns besides the club issue. Of course, I trust Reggie but the Browns seem to have gotten a steal in the 6th. I hope Eddie comes out like a monster now more than ever.

This is preposterous. Brantley was a rotational player at Florida and he doesn't touch Donald's athleticism. Heck, Brantley is barely in Vanderdoes' ballpark when it comes to athleticism.


Was thinking the same thing. Brantley was overrated AF by the draft media. He was a glorified role player at Florida. Rotational player who lacks in a lot of areas. Aaron Donald comparison is hilarious.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raiderrocker18 wrote:
the hindsight will be there with brantley because you cant play the character concern card after drafting conley in the first...


It's not like Reggie is the only GM that passed on him. The worst team in the league took him, and I think Reggie just preferred Vanderdoes over Brantley. Honestly, so do I. We will see though. However, idc how it plays out. I don't think I'll ever once compare the two. I'm not really a fan of playing the hindsight game though
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raiderrocker18 wrote:
the hindsight will be there with brantley because you cant play the character concern card after drafting conley in the first...


It's not like Reggie is the only GM that passed on him. The worst team in the league took him, and I think Reggie just preferred Vanderdoes over Brantley. Honestly, so do I. We will see though. However, idc how it plays out. I don't think I'll ever once compare the two. I'm not really a fan of playing the hindsight game though


You won't have to if he comes out and is the next Donald. Everyone will do it for you.

Looking at the Browns draft class, I've never seen a class that could payoff so big or bust so hard in my life.

Literally, this is their shot.
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big_palooka wrote:
Rich7sena wrote:
NightTrainLane wrote:
raidr4life wrote:
Brantley charges dropped looks like he will be compared with Vanderdoes for there careers.


Got Damnit! I mean good for him but he was compared to Aaron Donald. I had him as a late 1st to mid 2nd talent wise. Maybe he had other character concerns besides the club issue. Of course, I trust Reggie but the Browns seem to have gotten a steal in the 6th. I hope Eddie comes out like a monster now more than ever.

This is preposterous. Brantley was a rotational player at Florida and he doesn't touch Donald's athleticism. Heck, Brantley is barely in Vanderdoes' ballpark when it comes to athleticism.


Was thinking the same thing. Brantley was overrated AF by the draft media. He was a glorified role player at Florida. Rotational player who lacks in a lot of areas. Aaron Donald comparison is hilarious.
Agree overated like Floyd and I while I didnt like Floyd as much as media he was still better in my eyes coming out. Also the team that took him in the 6th had two 1st round picks and all their others and drafted Larry Ogunjobi in the 3rd already. He may have fell further or out all together when you combine talent with off field.
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NightTrainLane wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
the hindsight will be there with brantley because you cant play the character concern card after drafting conley in the first...


It's not like Reggie is the only GM that passed on him. The worst team in the league took him, and I think Reggie just preferred Vanderdoes over Brantley. Honestly, so do I. We will see though. However, idc how it plays out. I don't think I'll ever once compare the two. I'm not really a fan of playing the hindsight game though


You won't have to if he comes out and is the next Donald. Everyone will do it for you.

Looking at the Browns draft class, I've never seen a class that could payoff so big or bust so hard in my life.

Literally, this is their shot.


Meh.... they are still the Browns. Unless Kizer is the real deal, they still lack at the most important spot.
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big_palooka wrote:
NightTrainLane wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
the hindsight will be there with brantley because you cant play the character concern card after drafting conley in the first...


It's not like Reggie is the only GM that passed on him. The worst team in the league took him, and I think Reggie just preferred Vanderdoes over Brantley. Honestly, so do I. We will see though. However, idc how it plays out. I don't think I'll ever once compare the two. I'm not really a fan of playing the hindsight game though


You won't have to if he comes out and is the next Donald. Everyone will do it for you.

Looking at the Browns draft class, I've never seen a class that could payoff so big or bust so hard in my life.

Literally, this is their shot.


Meh.... they are still the Browns. Unless Kizer is the real deal, they still lack at the most important spot.
Don't sleep on Cody Kessler.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
NightTrainLane wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
the hindsight will be there with brantley because you cant play the character concern card after drafting conley in the first...


It's not like Reggie is the only GM that passed on him. The worst team in the league took him, and I think Reggie just preferred Vanderdoes over Brantley. Honestly, so do I. We will see though. However, idc how it plays out. I don't think I'll ever once compare the two. I'm not really a fan of playing the hindsight game though


You won't have to if he comes out and is the next Donald. Everyone will do it for you.

Looking at the Browns draft class, I've never seen a class that could payoff so big or bust so hard in my life.

Literally, this is their shot.


Meh.... they are still the Browns. Unless Kizer is the real deal, they still lack at the most important spot.


Yup and people were talking about us the same way just a few years ago til we hit on mack and Carr. Big draft for them.
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanderdoes being around 300, or even 5-10 pounds lighter points to him being a rotational UT who'll be primarily used on rush downs IMO. That being said, if we decide to play more of a 3-4 base, he's strong enough to anchor very well and could definitely be a starting end in a 3-4.

MEJ, Ellis, and Vanderdoes could be our defensive interior this year. Latham and Autry will also be competing for snaps, as will Ward so hopefully competition gets the most out of this group.
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MrOaktown_56 wrote:
Vanderdoes being around 300, or even 5-10 pounds lighter points to him being a rotational UT who'll be primarily used on rush downs IMO. That being said, if we decide to play more of a 3-4 base, he's strong enough to anchor very well and could definitely be a starting end in a 3-4.

MEJ, Ellis, and Vanderdoes could be our defensive interior this year. Latham and Autry will also be competing for snaps, as will Ward so hopefully competition gets the most out of this group.


Yeah, I think we are looking at this rotation for the 3-4 interior. All will get snaps regardless of starters.
MEJ - Autry
(Ellis - Lathum) competition for starter
(Ward - Vanderdoes) competition for starter
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