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raiderrocker18


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrOaktown_56 wrote:
Can someone/should I make a "Raiders offense" thread? We have a defense one and I feel like there's some good discussion to be had offensively.
dont think you need permission lol
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MrOaktown_56


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raiderrocker18 wrote:
MrOaktown_56 wrote:
Can someone/should I make a "Raiders offense" thread? We have a defense one and I feel like there's some good discussion to be had offensively.
dont think you need permission lol
Laughing After some of the backlash in here about unecessary threads, I didn't want to be "that guy".
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Carr is 22-25,no playoff games, I'd take Flacco over him.To me it seems like Flacco is just where he belongs. Behind the Brady, Roethlisberger,Rivers,Rodgers,Wilson and ahead of Carr,Tannehill,Cousins,Palmer,Dalton,Luck
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raiderrocker18


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrOaktown_56 wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
MrOaktown_56 wrote:
Can someone/should I make a "Raiders offense" thread? We have a defense one and I feel like there's some good discussion to be had offensively.
dont think you need permission lol
Laughing After some of the backlash in here about unecessary threads, I didn't want to be "that guy".
yeah people here seem unnecessarily sensitive about threads... i started a defense thread after the other one hit over 100 pages and apparently somebody else was "supposed to start it"

its quite odd
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BayRaider


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BayRaider wrote:
If Aldon Smith isn't reinstated by the first day of training camp, just cut him. Would be clear the NFL doesn't want him back in the league at that point.


Why? Still costing us nothing to have him on the roster. In affect we'd be cutting him just cuz someone doesn't like looking at him on the Susp list.


Because the league isn't reinstating him if he's not reinstated by training camp. They've dragged this on quite long and it's not looking good for Aldon.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raiderrocker18 wrote:
MrOaktown_56 wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
MrOaktown_56 wrote:
Can someone/should I make a "Raiders offense" thread? We have a defense one and I feel like there's some good discussion to be had offensively.
dont think you need permission lol
Laughing After some of the backlash in here about unecessary threads, I didn't want to be "that guy".
yeah people here seem unnecessarily sensitive about threads... i started a defense thread after the other one hit over 100 pages and apparently somebody else was "supposed to start it"

its quite odd

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

raiderrocker18 wrote:
MrOaktown_56 wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
MrOaktown_56 wrote:
Can someone/should I make a "Raiders offense" thread? We have a defense one and I feel like there's some good discussion to be had offensively.
dont think you need permission lol
Laughing After some of the backlash in here about unecessary threads, I didn't want to be "that guy".
yeah people here seem unnecessarily sensitive about threads... i started a defense thread after the other one hit over 100 pages and apparently somebody else was "supposed to start it"

its quite odd


Basically because Rolni asked if he could start it already since he brought the idea around and gave tons of in depth analysis.


Not a big deal tbh, was kind of a tradition thing
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BayRaider wrote:
NightTrainLane wrote:
BayRaider wrote:
If Aldon Smith isn't reinstated by the first day of training camp, just cut him. Would be clear the NFL doesn't want him back in the league at that point.


Why? Still costing us nothing to have him on the roster. In affect we'd be cutting him just cuz someone doesn't like looking at him on the Susp list.


Because the league isn't reinstating him if he's not reinstated by training camp. They've dragged this on quite long and it's not looking good for Aldon.


I understand but we still lose nothing by leaving him right where he is. Unnecessary move.
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Let's get this man back.. so underrated on this forum.
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raiderrocker18


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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or just dont want to overrate him over a partial season like we did with amerson
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BayRaider


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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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or just dont want to overrate him over a partial season like we did with amerson


Riley had a Top 7-8 ILB season last year but I do agree that probably won't be replicated. But he will still provide at least a Top 20 ILB season which is a million times better than what we have right now.
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BayRaider wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
or just dont want to overrate him over a partial season like we did with amerson


Riley had a Top 7-8 ILB season last year but I do agree that probably won't be replicated. But he will still provide at least a Top 20 ILB season which is a million times better than what we have right now.


I love how people think they know how a guy will perform before he has even taken the field in pads...
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightTrainLane wrote:
BayRaider wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
or just dont want to overrate him over a partial season like we did with amerson


Riley had a Top 7-8 ILB season last year but I do agree that probably won't be replicated. But he will still provide at least a Top 20 ILB season which is a million times better than what we have right now.


I love how people think they know how a guy will perform before he has even taken the field in pads...


You think on any planet James, Lee, or Heeney would have a better season than Riley? I like Lee's potential but I'm not expecting much out of his first season. James I love as a special teams player but he's not the answer. Heeney is just terrible..
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BayRaider wrote:
NightTrainLane wrote:
BayRaider wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
or just dont want to overrate him over a partial season like we did with amerson


Riley had a Top 7-8 ILB season last year but I do agree that probably won't be replicated. But he will still provide at least a Top 20 ILB season which is a million times better than what we have right now.


I love how people think they know how a guy will perform before he has even taken the field in pads...


You think on any planet James, Lee, or Heeney would have a better season than Riley? I like Lee's potential but I'm not expecting much out of his first season. James I love as a special teams player but he's not the answer. Heeney is just terrible..


I want Riley back even if he backs up Lee. Any decent depth we can get on D I'll be happy about. If we could could count on Neiron Ball or Aldon Smith to be available my feelings towards our LBs would change(but we can't rely or count on either to be there).
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BayRaider


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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daineraider wrote:
BayRaider wrote:
NightTrainLane wrote:
BayRaider wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
or just dont want to overrate him over a partial season like we did with amerson


Riley had a Top 7-8 ILB season last year but I do agree that probably won't be replicated. But he will still provide at least a Top 20 ILB season which is a million times better than what we have right now.


I love how people think they know how a guy will perform before he has even taken the field in pads...


You think on any planet James, Lee, or Heeney would have a better season than Riley? I like Lee's potential but I'm not expecting much out of his first season. James I love as a special teams player but he's not the answer. Heeney is just terrible..


I want Riley back even if he backs up Lee. Any decent depth we can get on D I'll be happy about. If we could could count on Neiron Ball or Aldon Smith to be available my feelings towards our LBs would change(but we can't rely or count on either to be there).


Getting both Riley and Aldon back would be huge.. I will never include Aldon in roster plans until I actually see him reinstated and start Week 1 without any trouble.

We probably have a Bottom 3 LB corp right now which makes me quite nervous to start the year. Especially facing a Top 3 Running team to start the season in Tennessee..
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BayRaider wrote:
NightTrainLane wrote:
BayRaider wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
or just dont want to overrate him over a partial season like we did with amerson


Riley had a Top 7-8 ILB season last year but I do agree that probably won't be replicated. But he will still provide at least a Top 20 ILB season which is a million times better than what we have right now.


I love how people think they know how a guy will perform before he has even taken the field in pads...


You think on any planet James, Lee, or Heeney would have a better season than Riley? I like Lee's potential but I'm not expecting much out of his first season. James I love as a special teams player but he's not the answer. Heeney is just terrible..


I'm saying that I don't know just like you don't.
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