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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:51 pm    Post subject: Williams Holding Out Reply with quote

Apparently he is refusing to sign the tender that was offered to him. Is this a joke? He's lucky to have a roster spot, IMO. Rescind the offer and sign any of the FA RBs that could provide what he does.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article148328724.html
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Williams Holding Out Reply with quote

hrubes20 wrote:
Apparently he is refusing to sign the tender that was offered to him. Is this a joke? He's lucky to have a roster spot, IMO. Rescind the offer and sign any of the FA RBs that could provide what he does.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article148328724.html


I second that opinion. He is a bottom of the roster player right now, and the NFL draft just provided a bushel of young RB's with no miles on them. Talk about being entitled. I think he knows that Drake is going to take his roster spot this year, so he just wants to get cut as soon as he can, so that he can try to find a spot on another team.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder what's going through his head. He has literally zero leverage. Not a single other team offered him a contract higher or longer than Miami's tender.

I do think he's a quality 3DRB, and Miami would benefit from keeping him on the roster alongside Drake and Ajayi.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He must really be proud of those 35 carries for 115 yards last season.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He must really be proud of those 35 carries for 115 yards last season.


Let's not downplay his contributions. He had 6 TDs on about 350 snaps. He was a playmaker *within his limited role*. He had way more big plays than most teams' 3rd RB.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see this as him holding out. I see this as a guy not going to voluntary workouts in hope of a long term deal. Much like Reshad last year, once he is required to be there, he will be. His role will decrease in this offense and he probably knows it, he would most likely rather sign longer now than take a chance as a free agent a year after likely mostly contributing on special teams. The problem as was already mentioned is that he has no leverage other than his coach talking him up and he is already getting a raise this year. Still, I wouldn't dump him just for this. I'd tell him to shut up and play
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has no leverage. He'll sign the tender eventually.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cddolphin wrote:
Dolphinmeister wrote:
He must really be proud of those 35 carries for 115 yards last season.


Let's not downplay his contributions. He had 6 TDs on about 350 snaps. He was a playmaker *within his limited role*. He had way more big plays than most teams' 3rd RB.


Indeed, he's a player who I'd be a bit peeved if we did end up losing. Very underrated player in our offense. A jack of all trades guy... good receiver out of the backfield and can also line up at fullback, yet has the speed of a runningback.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lemmiwinks wrote:
Much like Reshad last year, once he is required to be there, he will be.


Jones held out for, like, half of a practice. The Dolphins FO has made it very clear to players that if you want to get paid you need to be an example. Jones held up his end by showing up, and was rewarded with a big extension this offseason despite his injury.

Similarly, Landry is still showing up to voluntary workouts despite being scheduled to make less than 900k in 2017 as the league's best slot receiver. The Dolphins FO have proven that they keep their word with the locker room leaders.

Williams needs to follow the leader(s). He is going to get paid by someone in 2018, even if it isn't Miami. He had the second highest "yards per route run" in the NFL, with 2.47 yard per route run. Behind only Tevin Coleman (2.58). This offense plays to his strengths, his ability to catch passes out of the backfield. Even if he only gets limited snaps, teams will recognize the production.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cddolphin wrote:
Dolphinmeister wrote:
He must really be proud of those 35 carries for 115 yards last season.


Let's not downplay his contributions. He had 6 TDs on about 350 snaps. He was a playmaker *within his limited role*. He had way more big plays than most teams' 3rd RB.


He was also the 2nd RB for the majority of last year, not the 3rd. The numbers are much more medicore with that in mind. The big number is that 3.3 ypc. He will be the 3rd RB going forward, and will lose his 3rd down touches to Drake (assuming Drake stays healthy of course). He's not explosive. He doesn't make people miss. He's not a power back. He isn't a guy that can handle the load if Ajayi goes down. He catches the ball well, runs solid routes, and isn't a liability is pass pro. That's valuable to have, but we have it in a much more dynamic, and cheaper, player in Drake. Fins need another guy that can carry the ball 15-20 times a game if Ajayi goes down. Williams is not that guy and really doesn't have much of a place on this offense anymore. Throw in his unwillingness to attend the workouts, and I'd have absolutely no problem cutting him.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hrubes20 wrote:
cddolphin wrote:
Dolphinmeister wrote:
He must really be proud of those 35 carries for 115 yards last season.


Let's not downplay his contributions. He had 6 TDs on about 350 snaps. He was a playmaker *within his limited role*. He had way more big plays than most teams' 3rd RB.


He was also the 2nd RB for the majority of last year, not the 3rd. The numbers are much more medicore with that in mind. The big number is that 3.3 ypc. He will be the 3rd RB going forward, and will lose his 3rd down touches to Drake (assuming Drake stays healthy of course). He's not explosive. He doesn't make people miss. He's not a power back. He isn't a guy that can handle the load if Ajayi goes down. He catches the ball well, runs solid routes, and isn't a liability is pass pro. That's valuable to have, but we have it in a much more dynamic, and cheaper, player in Drake. Fins need another guy that can carry the ball 15-20 times a game if Ajayi goes down. Williams is not that guy and really doesn't have much of a place on this offense anymore. Throw in his unwillingness to attend the workouts, and I'd have absolutely no problem cutting him.


He made some nice contributions last season, but if he leaves town it's not a big deal IMO. He's not a dynamic playmaker, but he is solid depth within his role on the Offense.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Williams signed his tender today. Missed a couple voluntary practices but that is the end of it.
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