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3rd Round (93): Montravius Adams [DT; Auburn]
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{Family Ghost}


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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was a wildcard pick for me .. just not sure on this guy. I think we needed another Dlineman, so I was not at all surprised we spend a quality pick on him. I hate hearing any comparisons to Jerel Worthy. Worthy was a guy I loved on tape, but his game just didn't translate well at all. Hopefully Adams game isn't near as predicated on jumping snap count. A lot of trepidation has to do with the many misses we've had at Dline .. hope this guy can be one of the success stories, and not another failed pick.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

{Family Ghost} wrote:
This was a wildcard pick for me .. just not sure on this guy. I think we needed another Dlineman, so I was not at all surprised we spend a quality pick on him. I hate hearing any comparisons to Jerel Worthy. Worthy was a guy I loved on tape, but his game just didn't translate well at all. Hopefully Adams game isn't near as predicated on jumping snap count. A lot of trepidation has to do with the many misses we've had at Dline .. hope this guy can be one of the success stories, and not another failed pick.

Isn't this how it went down...with Worthy?
He got sick in camp and lost a lot of weight. Weight that never came back. I swear he played more around 275 than he did 300.
Then he got injured, knee.
With those two strikes, he lost his explosive first step and he never had an anchor. Game over.

Khyri had little motivation.

Adams has strength, length and quickness. Very productive last season. Khryi didn't have production. 16 tackles and half a sack his last season.

Adams had 26 tackles and 8 sacks. And those 8 sacks weren't an outlier. he had 7 two years prior.

Outside of the body type being similar, I don't see the Khyri qualities.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The testing scores and body type is about as far as the Thornton comparison goes.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skibrett15 wrote:
The testing scores and body type is about as far as the Thornton comparison goes.


Here is another stat...about Khyri...

His last year in college, he only had a half sack more than Norm, and Norm wasn't even trying!
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vegas492 wrote:
skibrett15 wrote:
The testing scores and body type is about as far as the Thornton comparison goes.


Here is another stat...about Khyri...

His last year in college, he only had a half sack more than Norm, and Norm wasn't even trying!


I was trying though...
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

{Family Ghost} wrote:
This was a wildcard pick for me .. just not sure on this guy. I think we needed another Dlineman, so I was not at all surprised we spend a quality pick on him. I hate hearing any comparisons to Jerel Worthy. Worthy was a guy I loved on tape, but his game just didn't translate well at all. Hopefully Adams game isn't near as predicated on jumping snap count. A lot of trepidation has to do with the many misses we've had at Dline .. hope this guy can be one of the success stories, and not another failed pick.


Yes and no. From a body comparison, comparing him to Jerel Worthy isn't totally off base. Like you mentioned, Worthy's game was predicated off of jumping the snap count and while he managed to do that at a high level in college he wasn't able to find that same success at the next level.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just think the Packers gave up on a few of them too soon really. For whatever reason the Packers have a hard time with hands play development. Guys with a little give up in them/motor issues really struggle until the hands are up to speed. Pro OL hold the hell out of ya.....

Adams is pretty good with the hands though. MeThinks he'll have a little better luck in Green Bay than some others have.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darius Holland
Donnell Washington
Justin Harrell
Kyri Thorton
Jerell Worthy
Lawrence Guy

Some did ok after they left GB, like other said, maybe we need a bit more patience.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So...what is the hold up with Montravius signing his deal ?
He's been in GB recently...is he holding out for a better parking spot ? Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanedorf wrote:
So...what is the hold up with Montravius signing his deal ?
He's been in GB recently...is he holding out for a better parking spot ? 8)


My guess is "young agent with a lot of clients who got picked higher" (Malik Hooker, Deshaun Watson, Charles Harris, and Budda Baker by my count). So it makes sense that he would want to get those guys done first, and wouldn't necessarily have the same relationship with teams that help getting stuff done fast like some of the more established ones do.

There's also just a big group of unsigned guys in that range, by my count #87 (Davis Webb) through #96 (Kenny Golladay) are as of yet unsigned and Adams is right in the middle of that group at #92. My guess is that Webb's representation is hoping to secure some kind of "QB Premium" and the guys picked right after him are waiting to see what happens.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fattlipp wrote:
Darius Holland
Donnell Washington
Justin Harrell
Khyri Thorton
Jerel Worthy
Lawrence Guy

Some did ok after they left GB, like other said, maybe we need a bit more patience.


Or they just never fit in to begin with...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCPackFan wrote:
fattlipp wrote:
Darius Holland
Donnell Washington
Justin Harrell
Khyri Thorton
Jerel Worthy
Lawrence Guy

Some did ok after they left GB, like other said, maybe we need a bit more patience.


Or they just never fit in to begin with...


I regret you aren't the GM so we wouldn't make these very obvious mistakes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NormSizedMidget wrote:
NCPackFan wrote:
fattlipp wrote:
Darius Holland
Donnell Washington
Justin Harrell
Khyri Thorton
Jerel Worthy
Lawrence Guy

Some did ok after they left GB, like other said, maybe we need a bit more patience.


Or they just never fit in to begin with...


I regret you aren't the GM so we wouldn't make these very obvious mistakes.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NormSizedMidget wrote:
NCPackFan wrote:
fattlipp wrote:
Darius Holland
Donnell Washington
Justin Harrell
Khyri Thorton
Jerel Worthy
Lawrence Guy

Some did ok after they left GB, like other said, maybe we need a bit more patience.


Or they just never fit in to begin with...


I regret you aren't the GM so we wouldn't make these very obvious mistakes.


Hey, hindsight is 20/20 and that's what I'm going off of here. Nothing to do with a hypothetical situation where I'm the GM and I'm making these calls after a short period of time...
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palmy50 wrote:
Adams is pretty good with the hands though. MeThinks he'll have a little better luck in Green Bay than some others have.

Agreed. It's not every day we draft a 5-star HS DT recruit from the heart of the SEC. I think Adams will be different. The Auburn big guys tend to stick around in the league.
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