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Was trading down the best option?
Yes
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No
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DizzyDean


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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkb_63 wrote:
I voted Yes, because on its face I thought I saw a definitive plan come together for a 2018 Franchise QB and using the 2017 Draft to build up our defense mainly.

The selection of Kizer, instead of a high probability starter in the defensive backfield (in arguably the deepest position group draft since our '99 return), has thrown some doubt in that speculation. I realize that it was a high value pick. I realize that maybe, just maybe, we drafted a developmental QB with some good tools who could actually pan out...but maybe not. Question is, how long do you give Kizer to develop and do positive signs of development cause us to not be as aggressive in moving up for a higher probability Franchise QB in 2018? I don't like those questions, those questions are potentially devastating if answered wrongly.

So yes, I like the trade, but I'm hesitant to call it a slam dunk.


Kizer is a project in my estimation, and will not have any bearing on drafting a QB next year if they want one of the blue chippers if no one steps up this year.

They are following the cowboys model... they took Aikman number 1 overall in the 1989 draft, and essentially spent #1 overall in the 1990 draft on Steve Walsh via the 1989 supplemental draft.

Us taking a shot on a project in round 2 certainly will not factor into the equation next year if they believe they can get a franchise guy there, even if they have no clue what they have in Kizer yet.
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buno67


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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DizzyDean wrote:

Us taking a shot on a project in round 2 certainly will not factor into the equation next year if they believe they can get a franchise guy there, even if they have no clue what they have in Kizer yet.


I completely agree with this statement. Taking Kizer in rd 2 doesnt not handcuff him into their future or force them from not drafting a QB next year.

Low risk, high reward.

If Kizer hits his stride and the Browns got lucky, well the Browns hit the freaking lottery. If Kizer doesnt show anything, well they could scrap him and draft a QB next year.

I just hope Kizer does show himself as the franchise QB. It would be nice to keep those picks they would have to trade to get QB1 next year
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DaWg_LB.


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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas5737 wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
DizzyDean wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
DizzyDean wrote:
bruceb wrote:
sdrawkcab321 wrote:
I would have rather had OJ since he would have helped the pass game and run game with his blocking. but I guess we have to see what happens next year with that pick.

I think we could have gotten peppers in the 2nd.


Njoku can be all Howard can be.

Cannot say the same for Peppers vs. Hooker.

Getting th #1 2018 pick clinches it for me, but I will interested in watching Peppers' and Hooker's careers.


Peppers can not be all that Hooker can be, but.... Hooker also can not be all that Peppers can be.

They are 2 entirely different players, playing 2 entirely different roles and positions.

Peppers can be, and will be I believe, every bit as good at his role, if not better, than Hooker will be at his role.


Also, either player could just suck.


I don't expect either player to suck. It could happen, I just simply do not expect it to happen. I honestly can envision them being team mates in the probowl for a lot of years together.


Most people don't expect them to suck, that's why they are first round picks.

Of course about half of those first round picks eventually suck....


DawgLB's dates have an even higher percentage.



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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now I'll say yes, but obviously it's partly contingent on who the Browns draft next year with the pick from Houston. Hooker would have been nice, but Peppers + another top player might be better. Especially since apparently Williams doesn't value a free safety as much as he does a strong safety.
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