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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:52 am    Post subject: The Jacksonville Jaguars finally have an identity Reply with quote

It's no real secret how jaded I've been about this team lately, so I wanted to give them a little bit of praise for finally doing something right.

For the last four years, the Jaguars have told us what they envisioned this team would be. They basically told us that they wanted to be built in the style of Seattle's early stages, however their execution of this idea has been, to put it bluntly, terrible.

We were told that the offense was supposed to have a tone setting run game. We were also told that the Running Back himself was potentially the last piece to that, so I'm not going to critique the specifics of those players. But they did try to bring in tone setters. They had Gerhartt and Ivory, both guys who were supposed to play physical styles for us. They weren't good, but they tried to so them. But then take a look at how the rest of the team was constructed. Your draft a LT #2 overalll with pillow hands who was supposed to be a finess technician. That doesn't really scream power run game. You spend big on Julius Thomas, who is, at best, a low effort blocker. You abandon the fullback position, meaning that with Julius and the no FB, the majority of plays, you only have 5 blockers. That doesn't exactly scream tone setting.

We were told that the defense was supposed to get after the passer, that they were supposed to be physical and beat offenses up. But then we brought in elephant ends that can't rush the passer. We brought in a #3 overall "pass rusher" who isn't exactly a good pass rush prospect and who the new head coach recently questioned his aggression. We brought in a lot of players in the secondary who didn't have any real physicality to them.

But now the team seems to have finally committed to those things.

We're going to set the tone on offense. How are we going to do that? Well we're gonna get rid of Julius Thomas because he doesn't fit that. We're going to sign a Fullback. We're going to let pillow hands Joeckel walk. We're going to try to get a decently physical LT. We're going to draft a big, over 240lb RB then follow that up with a monster who can play LG, LT, or somewhere else should we find a need.

We're going to be physical on defense and get after the passer? How are we going to do that? We're going to build upon the incredible physicality that Jalen brings in the secondary and add an opposing CB that can match his intensity. We're gonna add a Strong Safety who not only plays the run well, but who can lay the wood. We're gonna bring in a LE who is a physical mauler who can get after and beat up the QB. We're gonna add to that in the draft.

Now it's a long way before these things finally come together to create some wins. We need to see if the players brought in can actually play well, if the coaching staff can actually create game plans that emphasize these talents, and if they can execute them and turn them into wins.

But finally this team doesn't just have a hodgepodge of players on offense, and a bunch of vague players on defense that fit basic principles of schemes. They finally have players who not only fit schematically, but who emphasize an identity that can be used to gameplan and build around. For once, this team actually seems to have a basic understanding of what it takes to create a team that can win games.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've said it year in and year out this team looked the same week in and week out because they had no game plan, and no scheme every week. Its like Gus really expected to throw talent on the field every week and expect them to figure out how to win themselves.

We went on to acquire some talented guys over the last few years but they have not been coached to pull out their full potential. People look at this team as far away and no big jump will be made I fully expect this team to win no less than 8 games nothing less. Just think back to how long the word winning games has even been mentioned over the past few years. It was always the race to maturity with the same copy and paste statement after every tail kicking. Its as if Gus thought the NFL was going to be a case where you just put a bunch of players together size, height, and weight that fit his scheme and that the talent would win out at the end of the day. No accountability and no standards were set with this team and we all were beneficiaries of the terrible product.

You can not survive in this league doing that the only level that you can just amass talent and just throw them on the field is pop warner. College and NFL you're going to have to create game plans, mis-matches, schemes. Blue chip players are not going to just fall in your lap your going to have to get a player who may need that extra coaching and kick in the tail Marrone will provide that. You can go back and look at the players who held seniority on this team. Marks, Odrick, AluAlu .. They are not particularly guys that you can exactly lean of or for those young cats to learn from. They could not teach Yannick, Fowler or any other young player on this team how to win. Why? Because they never won anything.

Now a lot is coming out after Odrick departed that Odrick was a cancer in that locker room. Not saying that he was doing anything unethical but on several occasions it was Odrick who would question things of the coaching staff like: Why are we doing this? Why are we doing that? Are we suppose to be practicing this long? That attitude wore thin with Marrone and he was one of the first people Marrone wanted out of Jacksonville. Marrone wants guys who want to work tireless towards getting this team out of the dumps. The mind set is finally headed in the right direction I can see a plan I never saw a plan under Gus.
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2014:Khalil Mack - Blake Bortles
2015:Amari Cooper - Dante Fowler
2016:Jalen Ramsey - Jalen Ramsey
2017:Solomon Thomas - Leonard Fournette


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen.

Definitely have a plan and we're sticking to it. Hard not to be excited about the thought of that, regardless of if these picks end up being what we hope they are.
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