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EL Brownso


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Serious Draft Questions Reply with quote

Mastercheddaar wrote:

Q1 - At which round would you feel comfortable drafting a QB from this class?

Round 2

Q1a - Where do you think the front office is comfortable?

Anywhere not #1 overall.

Q2 - At which round would you feel Mixon is worth the risk/silences your moral objections?

Round 2

Q3 - How many trades do you think the Browns will do?

4+

Q4 - Who is your favorite sleeper pick?

Can I pick Conley now that he is projected in the 3rd round?

I like Marcus Williams from Utah. (Just moved here yesterday so I started reading up on the team, he stands out)

That is all

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Serious Draft Questions Reply with quote

H2ThaIzzo wrote:
Thomas5737 wrote:
H2ThaIzzo wrote:
poorbytehshore wrote:
brownie man wrote:


4. Favorite sleeper pick Ishamel Zamora at any time.


If the Browns draft this subhuman I'm out.


Oh Jesus Christ here we go again.

1. State Laws are the reason why Zamora is viewed as an undraftable savage and was suspended from the team, and why Dalvin Cook is still likely a first round pick. Florida has different laws against animal abuse than Texas, so one guy gets a severe penalty, the other guy gets an animal control citation. If you read the write up on Cook's dog situation, I think it's far more disturbing than Zamora. Leaving your dogs malnourished outside, tied to a tree, one of them essentially choking, to me is far worse than whipping a dog for going to the bathroom in the house. Both aren't good, but I'd say not feeding them and doing as Cook did is more likely to kill a dog than hitting it with a leather belt.


Negligence can be more cruel than abuse but there is no question of the intent with abuse. If you are beating something with a belt that is the end of the story. I don't care if the dog crapped on a $5000 oriental rug, you are still a terrible person. That is not normal behavior. If you need to take out your frustrations either find a way to do it so that no one gets hurt or take them out (or attempt to) on the baddest man in your town.

Negligence is more a sign or irresponsible behavior. It can be as or even more cruel but it isn't necessarily intentional abuse. Obviously they shouldn't have a human or animal under their care because they are terribly irresponsible but not necessarily intentionally a terrible person.

If you stabbed a guy to death you are a worse person (imo) than a guy who killed someone while he was driving drunk. Result for the victim is the same and fault lies with the killer in each case. Still, if I'm stuck in a room with either of them give me the drunk.


So you hang a man that if a bystander doesn't come by and see, and remove the rope, he dies, isn't as bad as someone else whipping a man with a belt?

The separation is we as human beings are so involved with the term "violence", that we associate physical harm typically as the worst type of harm.

Both are terrible, but I think you're underestimating how the "indirect" abuse had a higher probability to cause death to an animal than hitting an animal with a belt did. Same thing can be said for the people leaving their pets in locked cars in hot weather. How stupid can you be?


I think I addressed how the outcome can be as bad or worse for neglect. The difference is the intent to harm when beating an animal with a belt is 100%. Neglect is also bad and potentially deadly but you aren't always 100% certain that the owner meant to do harm to the animal. They did and they should lose their rights to own any animal and suffer the penalties that come with neglect but as a human there is a better chance that they aren't just scum as opposed to those doing harm by their own hand.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q1 - At which round would you feel comfortable drafting a QB from this class? 1st (not #1 overall)
Q1a - Where do you think the front office is comfortable? Same

Q2 - At which round would you feel Mixon is worth the risk/silences your moral objections? 3rd if he interviewed well. Undraftable otherwise.

Q3 - How many trades do you think the Browns will do? 2

Q4 - Who is your favorite sleeper pick? All time? Christian Michael.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 - 2nd round. I'd survive a first round pick so long as it's not 1-1, but I don't think I'd feel comfortable with any of them until very late first/early second.

1A - I have no clue. I'd guess the same or later. I think they're committed to an analytics approach to building a killer supporting cast (tons of picks, trading some of them for young, excellent players.

2 - I can't answer that having not interviewed, coached, or been involved in his criminal investigations.

3 - At least three. I'll say a trade down from #12, trading our 4th for a 3rd next year and a late 5th/early 6th this year, and trading a 6th and 7th this year for a 4th next year.

4 - Vince Beigel, Jaleel Johnson, Xavier Woods.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: Serious Draft Questions Reply with quote

Mastercheddaar wrote:
Hey guys,

Here is something fun before the draft.

Q1 - At which round would you feel comfortable drafting a QB from this class?
1rst

Q1a - Where do you think the front office is comfortable?
1rst

Q2 - At which round would you feel Mixon is worth the risk/silences your moral objections?
33rd

Q3 - How many trades do you think the Browns will do?
2

Q4 - Who is your favorite sleeper pick?
Reuben Foster

That is all

Mastercheddaar

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: Serious Draft Questions Reply with quote

EL Brownso wrote:
Mastercheddaar wrote:

Q1 - At which round would you feel comfortable drafting a QB from this class?

Round 2

Q1a - Where do you think the front office is comfortable?

Anywhere not #1 overall.

Q2 - At which round would you feel Mixon is worth the risk/silences your moral objections?

Round 2

Q3 - How many trades do you think the Browns will do?

4+

Q4 - Who is your favorite sleeper pick?

Can I pick Conley now that he is projected in the 3rd round?

I like Marcus Williams from Utah. (Just moved here yesterday so I started reading up on the team, he stands out)

That is all

El Brownso


I am a Jet fan you guys got the 1th 12th 33th 52 & the 65th plus late round picks. If you keep these picks you will come out of this draft with at least five top starters for 2017. If you keep these picks you will have the best draft class in many years by any team.
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