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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AKRNA wrote:
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Our LT situation is such a dumpster fire, signing a guy like Dunlap who has proven he can capably start without being a glaring liability could actually make a huge difference lol. Could be the difference between a bad O-line and one with potential to be average.


So very true and so very sad. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

Yeah, the in-house options are not real options. The prospect of Stephenson at LT is nightmare-inducing. And in all honesty, Ty Sambrailo should never step on an NFL field again.

Unrelated but I'm amazed that teams even let their best offensive linemen hit free agency anymore. Their replacements are not on the way from college, this problem will only get worse. Can't emphasize enough that teams should be willing to overpay their best linemen in today's NFL.


You're right on the money! Most of these guys coming out now can't even play with their hand in the dirt and it is getting worse. All the aggressive players seem to be on the other side of the LOS.

The year we drafted Ty I didn't like any of the early OT's in that draft. Red flags with all of them and no real nasty SOB's.

Right now though I think we're stuck. Elway doesn't seem to want to pay for quality OL FA's and doesn't want to draft one high. Confused

It's a pendulum though in the NFL. O Linemen salaries will start going through the roof, younger kids will take notice and in ten years the college OL ranks will be packed with much better, aggressive talent.

Yup, until the serious investment comes it will be hard to improve. Imagine where we'd be if we didn't hit on a diamond in the rough in Paradis. He was just a miss by the scouts and we got lucky. Can't pat ourselves on the back too hard there.

As far as the free agents go, I did like the Leary signing and I like the IDEA of the Watson signing, but counting on him to stay on the field seems like a lost cause. They're just hoping to get lucky there because it will be a good value in this crazy OT market if he doesn't miss more than a few games.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BroncoBruin wrote:
AKRNA wrote:
BroncoBruin wrote:
AKRNA wrote:
BroncoBruin wrote:
Our LT situation is such a dumpster fire, signing a guy like Dunlap who has proven he can capably start without being a glaring liability could actually make a huge difference lol. Could be the difference between a bad O-line and one with potential to be average.


So very true and so very sad. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

Yeah, the in-house options are not real options. The prospect of Stephenson at LT is nightmare-inducing. And in all honesty, Ty Sambrailo should never step on an NFL field again.

Unrelated but I'm amazed that teams even let their best offensive linemen hit free agency anymore. Their replacements are not on the way from college, this problem will only get worse. Can't emphasize enough that teams should be willing to overpay their best linemen in today's NFL.


You're right on the money! Most of these guys coming out now can't even play with their hand in the dirt and it is getting worse. All the aggressive players seem to be on the other side of the LOS.

The year we drafted Ty I didn't like any of the early OT's in that draft. Red flags with all of them and no real nasty SOB's.

Right now though I think we're stuck. Elway doesn't seem to want to pay for quality OL FA's and doesn't want to draft one high. Confused

It's a pendulum though in the NFL. O Linemen salaries will start going through the roof, younger kids will take notice and in ten years the college OL ranks will be packed with much better, aggressive talent.

Yup, until the serious investment comes it will be hard to improve. Imagine where we'd be if we didn't hit on a diamond in the rough in Paradis. He was just a miss by the scouts and we got lucky. Can't pat ourselves on the back too hard there.

As far as the free agents go, I did like the Leary signing and I like the IDEA of the Watson signing, but counting on him to stay on the field seems like a lost cause. They're just hoping to get lucky there because it will be a good value in this crazy OT market if he doesn't miss more than a few games.


I don't know much about Leary and haven't seen him play. I guess I'm guardedly optimistic there but he should be good enough to lock down one interior position. We've got enough bodies for the other OG spot one should step up. I really think our interior OL will be fine. But...........

As you mentioned, our OT's are a dumpster fire. We don't have one starting caliber OT on the roster. We'll keep playing musical chairs with 'em hoping two of them are at least a step above awful.

Any OL cohesion, which takes quite a while to develop, will be lost.

As far as "laughing or crying" I think I'll go cry now. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's scary elway said Ty Sambrillo is still a viable option at left tackle.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it's scary elway said Ty Sambrillo is still a viable option at left tackle.


I mean what he says vs. what reality is is totally different. They invested a lot of draft capital into him, so clearly they want him to work out. This is a big season for Sambrailo though. If he doesn't perform, he's probably going to be cut. But Elway had to answer the way he did.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

broncos67 wrote:
thebestever6 wrote:
it's scary elway said Ty Sambrillo is still a viable option at left tackle.


I mean what he says vs. what reality is is totally different. They invested a lot of draft capital into him, so clearly they want him to work out. This is a big season for Sambrailo though. If he doesn't perform, he's probably going to be cut. But Elway had to answer the way he did.


It would be awesome if Sambrilla worked out. Of course we all would probably root for that outcome. And, it could happen. But, I just don't trust Sambrilla at this point. Again, though, would be extremely excited to see him succeed. And, no matter what I hope the Broncos draft and acquire more OL talent, to either push Sambilla, or replace him.
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