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amac


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MKnight82 wrote:
Matchup 3:

djw4bucs (Pacers)

HC:Billy Donovan

Depth Chart

PG: CP3, Reggie Jackson, Sean Kilpatrick
SG: Will Barton, Glenn Robinson
SF: Jabari Parker, James Ennis, Trevor Booker
PF: Julius Randle, Domantas Sabonis
C: Clint Capela, Frank Kaminsky, Joakim Noah

Vs.

jfinley88 (Magic)

HC: Erik Spoelstra

Depth Chart

PG: Seth Curry, EíTwaun Moore
SG: Gary Harris, Norman Powell, Troy Daniels
SF: Jaylen Brown, Kelly Oubre Jr., Garrett Temple
PF: Ben Simmons, Skal Labissiere, Jauncho Hernangomez
C: Myles Turner, Robin Lopez


Pacers. Magic just wouldn't be very good early on. bright future deep on talent but kind of counting on Simmons/Brown to become a superstar down the road


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MKnight82 wrote:
Matchup 7:

Devin Kurant (Mavericks)

HC: Jason Kidd

Depth Chart

PG: Stephen Curry, Shaun Livingston, Devin Harris
SG: Avery Bradley, Danny Green
SF: Nicolas Batum, Kent Bazemore, Matt Barnes
PF : Marvin Williams, Marreese Speights, Dragan Bender
C: Jusuf Nurkic, Richaun Holmes

Vs.

I_GET_SAX (Pistons)

HC: Tom Thibodeau

Depth Chart

PG: John Wall, Shelvin Mack, Beno Udrih
SG: Wayne Ellington, Andre Roberson, Archie Goodwin
SF: Otto Porter Jr., Kyle Anderson
PF : Ryan Anderson, Kenneth Faried
C: Andre Drummond, Boban Marjonvic, Georgios Papagiannis

Mavericks. Mavs are deep and a Curry/Nurkic PnR/PnP would be pretty ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MKnight82 wrote:
Matchup 8:

kyle21121 (Spurs)

HC: Jerry Stackhouse

Depth Chart

PG: Marcus Smart, Deron Williams
SG: D'Angelo Russell, Kyle Korver, Nick Young
SF: LeBron James, PJ Tucker, Ron Artest
PF: Serge Ibaka, JaMychal Green, Pascal Siakam
C: Jakob Poeltl, Channing Frye

Vs.

amac (Pelicans)

HC: David Fizdale

Depth Chart

PG- Mike Conley, Raymond Felton, Quinn Cook
SG- Tony Snell, Jodie Meeks
SF- Jimmy Butler, Luc Mbah a Moute, Omri Casspi
PF- Kevin Durant, Zach Randolph, Shawn Long
C- Dewayne Dedmon, Nene

Pelicans. This team is pretty lights out, I don't feel like I need to explain this choice.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Matchup 4:

1King (Jazz)

HC: Stan Van Gundy

Depth Chart

PG: Patty Mills (.436/.395/.833), Jameer Nelson (.437/.369/.810), Leandro Barbosa (.459/.387/.821)
SG: JJ Redick (.447/.415/.888), Caris Levert (.450/.321/.720)
SF: Klay Thompson (.453/.419/.853), Joe Johnson (.442/.374/.801)
PF: Dario Saric (.411/.311/.782), Jared Dudley (.468/.397/.732), David West (.493/.261/.818)
C: Gorgui Dieng (.511/.343/.786), Zaza Pachulia (.465/.000/.748), Willy Hernangomez (.530/.267/.728)

Vs.

48 1/2ers (Warriors)

HC: Ron Adams

Depth Chart

PG: Dennis Schroder (.433/.331/.818), Dejounte Murray (.431/.391/.700), Matthew Dellavedova (.393/.389/.831)
SG: Andrew Wiggins (.450/.329/.760), Ben McLemore (.417/.352/.780)
SF: Tobias Harris (.469/.332/.809), Shabazz Muhammad (.476/.322/.749), Mindaugas Kuzminskas (.429/.321/.809)
PF: Draymond Green (.435/.334/.695), Moe Harkless (.471/.315/.596)
C: Brook Lopez (.506/.328/.794), Kelly Olynyk (.477/.368/.743), Andrew Bogut (.534/.120/.556)


General Team Philosophy of the Utah Jazz:

My roster fits with Stan Van Gundy's coaching strategy. It is built upon efficient players, with shooters at most every position, willing passers, capable team defenders, proven NBA players and veterans with a bunch of playoff experience and a few young guys who fill specific roles while they develop. Everybody on the team except for Jameer Nelson, Zaza Pachulia and Willy Hernangomez can play multiple positions, so versatility and flexibility are strengths that can be utilized depending on matchups and who is performing well. I have an elite shooting team with 4 guys that shoot 40% or better from 3 for their career; 3 more that shoot 37% or better from 3 for their career. I only have 1 normal rotation player (non-C) that shoots less than 34% from 3. I have a considerable amount of playoff experience (646 career playoff games) throughout my roster, including 3 NBA Champions.

Zaza Pachulia (53 playoff games)
David West (85 playoff games)
Jared Dudley (29 playoff games)
Klay Thompson (66 playoff games; 1 Championship)
Joe Johnson (103 playoff games)
J.J. Redick (83 playoff games)
Leandro Barbosa (119 playoff games; 1 Championship)
Jameer Nelson (44 playoff games)
Patty Mills (64 playoff games; 1 Championship)

Klay Thompson is my go-to scorer, however my offense is based around ball movement and taking good, efficient shots no matter who it is. All of my perimeter players are at least solid secondary ball handlers and the offense can be run through multiple positions/players depending on matchup and who is hot. Defensively my goal is to play solid team defense with Klay Thompson and Jared Dudley my top two primary perimeter defenders. My versatility allows my to play small, big or in between based on matchups and situations. I also have a strong FT shooting team at every position in case of close games.

Matchup Specific strategies, matchups and comments:

I believe I have a strong coaching advantage. Ron Adams, while a great assistant coach, has never been a HC in the NBA and only has 7 years of HC experience at the college level (3 years in the mid 70's and and 4 years in the late 80's) where he went a combined 87-108 (45%) whereas Stan Van Gundy has 11 years of HC experience at the NBA level with a 59% regular season win percentage and 53% playoff win percentage.

I also have the advantage when it comes to playoff experience. The Warriors playoff experience is as follows:

Dennis Schroder (30 playoff games)
Matthew Dellavedova (42 playoff games; 1 Championship)
Tobias Harris (4 playoff games)
Draymond Green (65 playoff games; 1 Championship)
Moe Harkless (13 playoff games)
Andrew Bogut (58 playoff games; 1 Championship)
Kelly Olynyk (10 playoff games)
Brook Lopez (13 playoff games)

whereas mine is posted above, while the # of Championships are equal, I have 411 more playoff games (646-235) on my roster.

I am the far superior shooting team, especially as it relates to 3 point shooting and FT shooting. The advantages I have in HC experience, playoff experience, 3 point shooting and FT shooting should provide me with an advantage in the event of a close game(s).

My all around shooting and ball movement will prevent the Warriors from double teaming or collapsing on drivers very often without risking leaving wide open shooters. The Warriors don't have many great options for defending Klay Thompson. They have 4 realistic options I see, Andrew Wiggins, Draymond Green, Matthew Dellavedova and Moe Harkless. Using Green would take him away from the basket and minimize his rebounding, shot blocking and help defense, I also don't think he would be as effective on either end of the floor routinely chasing Klay around the perimeter. In 4 games against the Timberwolves this season, Klay Thompson is averaging 31 PPG on .536/.439/.842 shooting in 4 games. Suffice to say, Wiggins isn't an effective option. Moe Harkless would result in the Warriors playing him above one of their more talented starters and his offensive limitations. Against Milwaukee this year, Thompson averaged 25 PPG on .545/.500/.857 shooting so Delly might not be the answer either. The movement of Redick and Mills provides further trouble for the defense. Dieng's ability to shoot mid range and the occassional 3 and Saric's ability to handle the ball could force Lopez and/or Green away from the basket limiting shot blocking, help defense and opening up back door cuts. Off the bench I have more good to great shooters, high IQ's and Joe Johnson's scoring ability to lead the unit.

Defensively I feel I matchup fairly decently, depending on certain lineups. Mills and/or Redick are good enough team defenders to limit Schroder. Dieng has enough size and mobility to matchup with Lopez. The biggest issue I will have is when Wiggins, Harris and Green all play together. In these scenarios I can have Klay Thompson or J.J. Redick matchup with Wiggins, Jared Dudley or Klay Thompson matchup with Harris and Dario Saric or Jaredy Dudley against Draymond. While Wiggins vs. Redick may seem like a huge disadvantage, Wiggins scored his 22 PPG against the LAC in 3 games this year at an inefficient .367/.222/.920 clip. Off the bench his options can be contained by my team defense. If Green starts abusing Saric, I can replace him with Dudley or start double teaming off of someone else as the Warriors are a relatively poor 3 point shooting team with only 4 players at 35% or better for their career, one of which (Murray) has a small sample size and may not play much. This lack of perimeter shooting also allows my to pack the paint and collapse on drives and/or postups without much risk. In close games, the Warriors are also likely to suffer due to poor FT shooting with 4-5 rotation players at 75% or less career shooters, 2-3 of which are below 70%.

48 1/2es says he would use Harkless and Delly a lot to combat my shooting, which is a good strategy, but limits his effectiveness on offense as he would have to bench 2 of his starters, which makes my defense better and his offense less efficient. His assertion that Wiggins would eat Redick alive doesn't mesh with Wiggins #'s against the LAC this year and if he did, I could easily switch Klay (or even Dudley) onto him, especially if Harkless and/or Delly are in the game. He mentions Olynyk and Bogut as depth at C that provide versatility, which is true, however I have just as much depth and versatility off the bench with Hernangomez, Pachulia and West. I dont see much of an advantage with McLemore and Shabazz that can't be matched or exceeded by Joe Johnson, Jared Dudley and the rest of my bench options.

Overall I trust my team's experience (at HC and players), fit and overall efficiency from everywhere on the court to outweigh any perceived talent issues.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MKnight82 wrote:
Matchup 10:

11sanchez11 (Nets)

HC: Scott Brooks

Depth Chart

PG: Goran Dragic, Tyreke Evans
SG: Paul George, Jonathon Simmons, Patrick McCaw
SF: Trevor Ariza, Bojan Bogdanovic, Jerami Grant
PF: Wilson Chandler, Davis Bertans
C: Marc Gasol, Steven Adams, Damian Jones

Vs.

CaribouLou (Trailblazers)

HC: Gregg Popovich

Depth Chart

PG - Eric Bledsoe, Jordan Clarkson, Brandon Knight
SG - Dion Waiters, Jeremy Lamb, Malachi Richardson
SF - Terrance Ross, Justin Anderson
PF - Kristaps Porzingis, Dwight Powell, Jared Sullinger
C - Nikola Vucevic, Alex Len


Blazers have a decent team but the nets are one of the best. Really deep squad. Nets
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*bump* now that I added my gameplan.

DalCowboyzRule wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
Matchup 12:

MookieMonster (Celtics)

HC: Terry Stotts

Depth Chart

PG: Darren Collison, Norris Cole, Isaiah Whitehead
SG: Victor Oladipo, Eric Gordon, Jordan Crawford
SF:Harrison Barnes, Richard Jefferson
PF: Anthony Davis, Amir Johnson
C: Willie Cauley-Stein, Kyle O'Quinn, Tyler Zeller

Vs.

DalCowboysRule (Suns)

HC: Dwayne Casey

Depth Chart

PG: Ricky Rubio, Austin Rivers, Cameron Payne
SG: Devin Booker, Wesley Matthews
SF: Thabo Sefolosha, TJ Warren, Derrick Jones Jr.
PF: Carmelo Anthony, Markieff Morris, Montrezl Harrell
C: Rudy Gobert, Brandon Wright


Defensive gameplan:

Take away the Celtics' stars with my best defenders. I'm going to put Thabo Sefolosha on Harrison Barnes and Rudy Gobert on Anthony Davis. Make Collison, Oladipo or WCS beat me, and I don't think they can.

And you'll say "but DCR, Davis can take Gobert away from the paint" okay...if Anthony Davis wants to camp outside all game instead of getting down low that's fine with me too.

Rubio is also a solid defender and can frustrate Collison. Booker isn't a great defender and Oladipo is solid but if he's chucking that's good for me. I can hide Melo on WCS, but can always bring in Markieff Morris or Brandan Wright for size if he starts getting dominated on the boards.

His bench doesn't worry me at all, his only good offensive players are Eric Gordon and Jordan Crawford, and when they're in the game at least one of them can be taken away by my 2nd unit primary defender in Wesley Matthews.

Offensive gameplan:

Run the offense through Rubio, Booker and Melo. Rubio is a great passer and will get my guys good looks. If Davis is guarding Melo out on the perimeter that's good news for me as it opens up the lane for Booker and the glass for Gobert.

By biggest advantage comes in my bench unit. Austin Rivers, Wesley Matthews, TJ Warren and Markieff Morris are all good offensive players and can all score the basketball. Brandan Wright can't create his own baskets but he's a very high efficiency player too. Compared to the Celtics' bench, it's a total washout.

Along with being good, most of those guys are very versatile. Rivers can play PG/SG, Matthews can play SG/SF, Warren can play SF/PF, Morris can play PF/C and Wright can play C/PF. This will allow me to mix up my lineup to matchup with his.

Overall my team is clearly deeper, I have multiple good defenders including the best big man defender in the game (imagine a lineup of Rubio, Matthews, Sefolosha, Morris, Gobert if I need a stop), 2 20+ PPG scorers in Carmelo and Booker and offensive weapons off the bench in Rivers, Warren and Morris.

All of that with a damn good coach in Dwane Casey.

So with that, I rest my case. Your turn, Mookie. Very Happy

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MKnight, can you add the GM's matchup breakdowns to the matchup post on the first page?

If I think 2 teams are close that would help sway which way I vote.

Also, I wanted to wait until everyone did theirs before I voted.
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MKnight82 wrote:
Matchup 7:

Devin Kurant (Mavericks)

HC: Jason Kidd

Depth Chart

PG: Stephen Curry, Shaun Livingston, Devin Harris
SG: Avery Bradley, Danny Green
SF: Nicolas Batum, Kent Bazemore, Matt Barnes
PF : Marvin Williams, Marreese Speights, Dragan Bender
C: Jusuf Nurkic, Richaun Holmes

Vs.

I_GET_SAX (Pistons)

HC: Tom Thibodeau

Depth Chart

PG: John Wall, Shelvin Mack, Beno Udrih
SG: Wayne Ellington, Andre Roberson, Archie Goodwin
SF: Otto Porter Jr., Kyle Anderson
PF : Ryan Anderson, Kenneth Faried
C: Andre Drummond, Boban Marjonvic, Georgios Papagiannis


Ok here's my writeup.

My team is built around maybe the best offensive player in the NBA and greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. A Steph Curry offense is going to need shooters around him and will need to run many high pick and rolls and a ton of screens. I'll break this down by starters, guards, forwards, centers, bench.


Starters:

Steph Curry alone is a nightmare for any opposing 5 on the floor. I think that's self explanatory right there in what Curry can do for a team. Now he's decent on defense, but clearly needs a strong defender next to him. I have that in arguably the best perimeter defender in the NBA and at the worst top 3, in Avery Bradley. Whichever the strongest of the opposing teams guards, Bradley can guard them. So in this case, Bradley will stick to John Wall like glue and Curry can relax and take on Ellington.

My 2nd overall pick was Just Nurkic, and a HUGE part of that aside from the obvious star potential talent is the vision of the Curry/Nurkic pick and roll or even pick and pop game with Nurkic's somewhat decent mid-range game. Nurkic is a legit 15/10 type player with borderline elite passing as a big. The passing is HUGE to me. I can have Nurk at the top of the key with everyone running around and him finding guys. Nurkic isn't a lockdown defender at his position but I do like his potential there. Curry/Nurkic is a fantastic fit in my opinion. I think him on Drummond actually favors Nurkic.

Now going down the list. Avery Bradley is my 2 guard. An elite all world defender who took a pretty significant leap scoring wise this season. Putting up nearly 17 ppg on fantastic efficiency and that over 40% 3pt shooting. He's an elite rebounder for his position as well. So that leaves my backcourt as an ultra-lethal shooting tandem.

Nicolas Batum is my SF and he's kind of my glue guy. Admittedly he is infuriatingly inconsistent, but I believe with a team with the spacing around Curry, he can get back to a pretty efficient 16-17 points a night. Just like Nurkic, I took Batum also because of his unique passing ability. He can play point guard, shooting guard, small forward, and even power forward in many lineups. Also a very solid defender as well. Porter vs. Batum could be key as both guys are similar scorers, with Porter coming off of a hyper efficient season from the 3 with Batum being the more well-rounded player.

My starting 4 is Marvin Williams, a player who I have always really liked. Having somewhat of a down year shooting the 3, but he's the perfect stretch 4 and a pretty underrated defender as well. I want shooters, shooters, shooters around Curry and Williams is perfect for that. A very solid rebounder for his position as well. His size can be concerning against most legit 4s, but facing Ryan Anderson is a relief in that case. That matchup will be a shooting contest. But I like Williams much better as a defender/rebounder.

Then of course Nurkic which I explained above. So all in all I believe I have a fantastic starting 5, FIT WISE, all of which can shoot the ball from 3 aside from Nurkic, and all of which are extremely talented passers aside from Williams. A negative about my starting 5 and overall team however is that I don't have a TRUE #2 option. I believe Nurkic could be a very high end #3 and Bradley and Batum can be #3 options any night and score 20+ any given night. But overall I wanted to shooters and defenders around Steph and I think I did a great job of that. I think Williams and Nurkic aren't exactly a great defensive front court duo but I do believe they can hold their own.

Bench:

So I am very happy with how my bench went. Of course I went with a fantastic POINT GUARD in Livingston who can run a team, is lethal in the mid-range, is a very good defender, and a very solid rebounder. Just an overall solid player who can be out there in any lineup. One of my favorite lineups is with Liv at the point and Steph at the SG. My other PG is Devin Harris. I didn't get him for scoring. I got him as a defender who can guard 1s and 2s. He can hit the 3 as well, though not at a consistent rate.

I was ecstatic to land Danny Green who I think is one of the truly elite 3&D guys in this league. A lethal 3 point shooter and a guy who I am confident with guarding the Klay Thompsons and LeBron James's when I need him to. He's my key bench player who can get as hot as anyone in the league from 3 outside of Steph and Klay.

Kent Bazemore is a guy who I took as a combo 2/3. I like his athleticism and defense and his ability to score all over the floor. He's not a highly efficient guy, but I think his energy alone is highly valuable to this bench when we're going to try and tire your bench. Then Matt Barnes is a guy I thought who could be a valuable small forward to plug in certain lineups. A solid defender who can hit the 3. That is all I wanted from Matt Barnes and I like his ability to get under opponents' skin.

Now to my bench bigs. Speights is exactly who I wanted as my backup 4 who can play the 5 in any lineup. He's a guy who can get down low and score but also one who can shoot the 3 and the past few seasons has been a 40% 3 point shooter. Like I said I love that I can play him at the 5 which could be matchup nightmare to other centers. Not a defensive ace but he has the size to guard both 4s and 5s. Dragan Bender is a guy I took for the future aspect of this franchise. Not going to contribute too much early on, but I really like his potential to become a very nice starter in this league.

Then my back up center Richaun Holmes. An athletic freak who fits in perfectly with this up tempo team. He's really come into his own this season with Philly and I like having an ultra athletic center to pair with Nurkic.


Overall, like my starting lineup, I like that most, if not all of my bench guys can effectively play multiple positions. I'd say it's a near elite defensive bench as well.


Guards

I have the best guard in the NBA and one of the greatest offensive guards of all time in Steph. Bradley, Green, Livingston, Bazemore and Harris is an exceptional group of guards who can all shoot the 3 aside from Liv. Even my worst guard, Harris, can defend well and is elite at drawing charges.


Forwards

Nicolas Batum is a stud for my team. I think he can do it all and I'm banking on him being far more consistent here. Then Green and Bazemore can both play the 3 in any lineup I have. Matt Barnes is a solid 3&D vet to have as well. I can throw Bender in the SF group as well. Then my big forwards, Marvin Williams, Marreese Speights and even Holmes who can play the 4, bring a very solid group of guys who can all do many different things to help this team.


Centers

A lot of my hope in this team lies on Just Nurkic. I think the guy is a star in the making who can score highly effectively in the post, pass with the best of the bigs in the league, rebound at a very great clip, and even has potential to be a solid defender. I love that he can play down low or even play up high with the ball in his hands. Then of course I like Holmes as the backup. Even Speights can play thee 5 which is a mismatch to most others.


Why I win: Well of course I truly think I have the better team. I win if Bradley and Batum can both be 15-20 point scorers on most nights, and then of course the others, Green, Bazemore, Williams, etc... can hit their 3s. Then of course if Nurkic is doing his thing. I'm confident in this team's defensive ability as well.

Why I lose: Simply put, if Curry has a terrible game, it's going to be hard to be confident I can win. But Curry rarely has off nights. The lack of a true #2 will hurt, but I really like Bradley, Nurkic, and Batum, and I think my strong bench and perimeter shooter/defense can make up for the lack of a true #2.
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Man these write ups are too intense lol I get its great to have an imagination but wow.

Anywell, here's how i'm voting:

1- Lakers - The guard play is in LAís favor, Thon is still a couple years away from being a difference maker that puts a team over the top.
2- Knicks - James Johnson should be starting over Chriss. Aldridge and Cousins canít play together.
3- Pacers - Both teams are super young but CP3 is still an elite player.
4- no vote
5- Raptors - starting 5 is pretty solid but are pretty soft defensively outside of D12 and Prince.
6- Nuggets - I donít see that roster working for DíAntoni. Jokic with Gordon and TT are nice bigs, Rozier Murray are young and contribute immediately.
7- Mavs - Steph and Bradley over Wall and Porter Jr. was the difference for me.
8- Pelicans - the bench is scary thin for them but so is the spurs.
9- Clips - this one was close too, Embiid and Whiteside is just too much, I can see Kemba destroying Teague for 50.
10- Nets - I like the Pop factor but Scotty Brooks is no chump either, and the nets roster has better talent.
11- Bucks - Giannis with Beverley and DJ is scary, good shooters also.
12- Suns - Rubio with Booker is a nice backcourt, the depth at PF is what swayed me.
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MKnight82 wrote:
Matchup 1:


Darkness (Lakers)

HC: Brett Brown

Depth Chart

PG: Jrue Holiday, JJ Barrea, Tyler Ulis
SG: CJ McCollum, Josh Richardson
SF: Andre Iguodala, Marco Belinelli, Gerald Green
PF: Blake Griffin, Larry Nance
C: Al Horford, Kosta Koufos, Javale McGee

Vs.

Mknight82 (Wizards)

HC: Doc Rivers

Depth Chart
PG: Kris Dunn , Ish Smith, Jerian Grant
SG: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, JR Smith
SF: Kawhi Leonard, Stanley Johnson, Deandry Bembry
PF: Kevin Love, Thon Maker
C: Cody Zeller, Bismack Biyombo, Larry Sanders

Darkness has drafted a solid team for the Lakers, but I think my Wizards are better. Playoff games are won by stars, and I have the best player is this series in Kawhi Leonard. Heís not only the best wing defender in this series, but his 25.5 PPG were 9th in the NBA this season.

People seem to be hating on Cody Zellerís defense in their posts. Heís a much better interior defender than Blake Griffin or Al Horford.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/ORPM/position/1

Zeller had a DRPM of 3.42 for the regular season, which was 13th in the NBA regardless of position. Al Horford had a 1.51, or #72 in the NBA, and Blake Griffin had a 0.46 for #167 in the NBA. Cody Zeller is the best defensive big amongst the starters in this series.

Kevin Love is the best rebounder in the series. His 11.1 rebounds per game in the regular season were 8th best in the NBA.

JR Smith IMO, is a better 6th man than anyone on this Lakers roster.

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is an athletic 3&D that would cover Iguodala in this series (I would have Kawhi defending McCollum).

My weakest starting position is PG, but I donít think that hurts me too much in this matchup. Jrue Holiday is solid but not a star. Ish Smith would likely start this series and heís a great defender. Dunn or Jerian Grant would come off the bench for me, and the way Grant was on a tear while Rondo was out Iíd probably give him first nod.

Then coming off the bench I have a slew of athletic defensive bigs in Thon Maker, Bismack Biyombo and Larry Sanders. Donít sleep on Thon Maker, the guy is an athletic freak and would play some serious minutes off the bench in this series. Stanley Johnson is an athletic wing that has shown a ton of promise defensively and is still growing offensively. Deandry Bembry is a great point forward with PG passing ability.

My team is built better for the long run too. The average age of my starting lineup is 24.8 years old. Iguodala, Belinelli and Barrea are all getting pretty long in the tooth. Blake Griffin doesnít have the same spring in his step he use too, and Al Horford is already 30.

I think the Wizards would win this series now and definitely in the future.
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48 1/2ers wrote:
Man these write ups are too intense lol I get its great to have an imagination but wow.

Anywell, here's how i'm voting:

1- Lakers - The guard play is in LAís favor, Thon is still a couple years away from being a difference maker that puts a team over the top.
2- Knicks - James Johnson should be starting over Chriss. Aldridge and Cousins canít play together.
3- Pacers - Both teams are super young but CP3 is still an elite player.
4- no vote
5- Raptors - starting 5 is pretty solid but are pretty soft defensively outside of D12 and Prince.
6- Nuggets - I donít see that roster working for DíAntoni. Jokic with Gordon and TT are nice bigs, Rozier Murray are young and contribute immediately.
7- Mavs - Steph and Bradley over Wall and Porter Jr. was the difference for me.
8- Pelicans - the bench is scary thin for them but so is the spurs.
9- Clips - this one was close too, Embiid and Whiteside is just too much, I can see Kemba destroying Teague for 50.
10- Nets - I like the Pop factor but Scotty Brooks is no chump either, and the nets roster has better talent.
11- Bucks - Giannis with Beverley and DJ is scary, good shooters also.
12- Suns - Rubio with Booker is a nice backcourt, the depth at PF is what swayed me.

Just wondering, why Suns over me? I have Collison, Oladipo, Eric Gordon and Jordan Crawford which IMO is a better backcourt. I have a far better defensive team, and Carmelo pretty much kills any flow offensively he's hoping to have.

My PF depth is decent as well with AD, Amir and O'Quinn who would play decent minutes at PF.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

feel like the votes have been lazy/first-reaction w/o thinking things thru tbh

will have my votes up later tonight
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MookieMonster wrote:
48 1/2ers wrote:
Man these write ups are too intense lol I get its great to have an imagination but wow.

Anywell, here's how i'm voting:

1- Lakers - The guard play is in LAís favor, Thon is still a couple years away from being a difference maker that puts a team over the top.
2- Knicks - James Johnson should be starting over Chriss. Aldridge and Cousins canít play together.
3- Pacers - Both teams are super young but CP3 is still an elite player.
4- no vote
5- Raptors - starting 5 is pretty solid but are pretty soft defensively outside of D12 and Prince.
6- Nuggets - I donít see that roster working for DíAntoni. Jokic with Gordon and TT are nice bigs, Rozier Murray are young and contribute immediately.
7- Mavs - Steph and Bradley over Wall and Porter Jr. was the difference for me.
8- Pelicans - the bench is scary thin for them but so is the spurs.
9- Clips - this one was close too, Embiid and Whiteside is just too much, I can see Kemba destroying Teague for 50.
10- Nets - I like the Pop factor but Scotty Brooks is no chump either, and the nets roster has better talent.
11- Bucks - Giannis with Beverley and DJ is scary, good shooters also.
12- Suns - Rubio with Booker is a nice backcourt, the depth at PF is what swayed me.

Just wondering, why Suns over me? I have Collison, Oladipo, Eric Gordon and Jordan Crawford which IMO is a better backcourt. I have a far better defensive team, and Carmelo pretty much kills any flow offensively he's hoping to have.

My PF depth is decent as well with AD, Amir and O'Quinn who would play decent minutes at PF.

Amir and O'qunn playing decent minutes isnt ideal. I like Montrez and the Morris brother way more.
Oladipo is also pretty trash
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

48 1/2ers wrote:
MookieMonster wrote:
48 1/2ers wrote:
Man these write ups are too intense lol I get its great to have an imagination but wow.

Anywell, here's how i'm voting:

1- Lakers - The guard play is in LAís favor, Thon is still a couple years away from being a difference maker that puts a team over the top.
2- Knicks - James Johnson should be starting over Chriss. Aldridge and Cousins canít play together.
3- Pacers - Both teams are super young but CP3 is still an elite player.
4- no vote
5- Raptors - starting 5 is pretty solid but are pretty soft defensively outside of D12 and Prince.
6- Nuggets - I donít see that roster working for DíAntoni. Jokic with Gordon and TT are nice bigs, Rozier Murray are young and contribute immediately.
7- Mavs - Steph and Bradley over Wall and Porter Jr. was the difference for me.
8- Pelicans - the bench is scary thin for them but so is the spurs.
9- Clips - this one was close too, Embiid and Whiteside is just too much, I can see Kemba destroying Teague for 50.
10- Nets - I like the Pop factor but Scotty Brooks is no chump either, and the nets roster has better talent.
11- Bucks - Giannis with Beverley and DJ is scary, good shooters also.
12- Suns - Rubio with Booker is a nice backcourt, the depth at PF is what swayed me.

Just wondering, why Suns over me? I have Collison, Oladipo, Eric Gordon and Jordan Crawford which IMO is a better backcourt. I have a far better defensive team, and Carmelo pretty much kills any flow offensively he's hoping to have.

My PF depth is decent as well with AD, Amir and O'Quinn who would play decent minutes at PF.

Amir and O'qunn playing decent minutes isnt ideal. I like Montrez and the Morris brother way more.
Oladipo is also pretty trash

O'Quinn is a pretty good player, but alright. Don't get the Oladipo hate at all either. I guess I just don't like the group he has offensively besides Booker, Carmelo is a team killer but fair enough.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ill get mine up early next week. just want to sit down and review and haven't been able to sit down with my laptop lately
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