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Magnus-Viktor


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My latest one, going BPA (literally the top of the list, or very close) at each pick. McCaffrey was #2 on the list, and I didn't like the top guy. Same thing in the 2nd, Shaheen was #2 and I didn't even consider the top guy.

1: R1P30 RB CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY STANFORD
2: R2P30 TE ADAM SHAHEEN ASHLAND
3: R3P30 S MARCUS WILLIAMS UTAH
4: R3P41 EDGE TREY HENDRICKSON FLORIDA ATLANTIC
5: R4P28 EDGE CARROLL PHILLIPS ILLINOIS
6: R5P29 S JOHN JOHNSON BOSTON COLLEGE
7: R6P29 CB NATE HAIRSTON TEMPLE
8: R7P30 S TEDRIC THOMPSON COLORADO

I had to reach a bit starting with the 3rd comp, to fill a need. I drafted Carroll Phillips to replace Timmons at ILB. The safeties were by far BPA each time IMO. I didn't intend to draft 3. Johnson & Williams could both play some CB.

I also drafted McCaffrey as a WR, unless Bell is not retained, then he'd be moved back to RB. I don't like the WR corp in Pittsburgh at all beyond Brown.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First Pick

Round 1 Pick 30: Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 30: Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford (A+)
Round 3 Pick 30: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A-)
Round 3 Pick 41 (COMP): Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A)
Round 4 Pick 28: Josh Carraway, DE, TCU (B+)
Round 5 Pick 29: George Kittle, TE, Iowa (B)
Round 6 Pick 29: Jadar Johnson, SS, Clemson (A-)
Round 7 Pick 30: Ezra Robinson, CB, Tennessee State (C-)

Got behind the 8 ball with Edge rushers. Probably should have grabbed Phillips or Smoot at 3.30 but just didn't love either that much. I know not everone likes WR Smith but I think he's exactly what we are missing. Tomlinson was too much talent to pass up at 3.41. Carraway has talent you can't teach. Explosive off the edge with tremendous bend. Would need to be coached up. Really liked this draft despite First Pick not liking my double-up on CB.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magnus-Viktor wrote:
My latest one, going BPA (literally the top of the list, or very close) at each pick. McCaffrey was #2 on the list, and I didn't like the top guy. Same thing in the 2nd, Shaheen was #2 and I didn't even consider the top guy.

1: R1P30 RB CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY STANFORD
2: R2P30 TE ADAM SHAHEEN ASHLAND
3: R3P30 S MARCUS WILLIAMS UTAH
4: R3P41 EDGE TREY HENDRICKSON FLORIDA ATLANTIC
5: R4P28 EDGE CARROLL PHILLIPS ILLINOIS
6: R5P29 S JOHN JOHNSON BOSTON COLLEGE
7: R6P29 CB NATE HAIRSTON TEMPLE
8: R7P30 S TEDRIC THOMPSON COLORADO

I had to reach a bit starting with the 3rd comp, to fill a need. I drafted Carroll Phillips to replace Timmons at ILB. The safeties were by far BPA each time IMO. I didn't intend to draft 3. Johnson & Williams could both play some CB.

I also drafted McCaffrey as a WR, unless Bell is not retained, then he'd be moved back to RB. I don't like the WR corp in Pittsburgh at all beyond Brown.


McCaffrey could be used a number of different ways. Shaheen is a beast. Not sure if I'm sold on Marcus Williams 100% but he is an intriguing talent. Would look pretty good back there as a dime safety. Phillips as ILB is a pretty interesting idea. Probably need a OLB and CB sooner than the 4th pick - obviously.
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Magnus-Viktor


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I love Christian McCaffrey. My favorite college player ever. I said from day 1 of his true freshman year that he looked like he could be a starting WR. But he's proven to be a RB as well. That versatility is a good thing.

I really loved how Shaheen moves. He moves like a 6'3" 235 lbs move TE, at 6'7" 278, and his play speed looked like 4.60 to me, not 4.79. Huge ceiling on him I think. If you could add both McCaffrey and Shaheen, that would be a huge shot in the arm offensively.

I didn't like not getting an OLB or CB earlier, but that's how it goes. I just realized I missed Brian Allen too. I wonder where he went. Carroll Phillips looks like a good candidate at ILB in a 34 to me. Hendrickson tested well too and looked good at the senior bowl.

Getting McCaffrey at 2-30 would be absurd. No way that ever happens, but I realize you used a simulator. Talk about a dream draft with him in 2. Chidobe Awuzie in 1 with him in 2 would be really nice.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be pretty thrilled with this

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 30: Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (B)
Round 2 Pick 30: Derek Rivers, DE, Youngstown State (B)
Round 3 Pick 30: Howard Wilson, CB, Houston (B)
Round 3 Pick 41 (COMP): Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia (B-)
Round 4 Pick 28: Joe Mathis, DE, Washington (D)
Round 5 Pick 29: James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh (A)
Round 6 Pick 29: KD Cannon, WR, Baylor (A-)
Round 7 Pick 30: David Jones, FS, Richmond (D
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using first-pick.com:

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 31 (ATL): Carl Lawson, DE/OLB, Auburn (B)
Round 2 Pick 31 (ATL): Cameron Sutton, CB, Tennessee (A)
Round 2 Pick 32 (CAR): Bucky Hodges, TE, Virginia Tech (B)
Round 3 Pick 30: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A-)
Round 3 Pick 34 (CAR): Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova (B+)
Round 3 Pick 41 (COMP): Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami (Fla.) (A-)
Round 4 Pick 28: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (B+)
Round 5 Pick 29: Eddie Vanderdoes, DT, UCLA (A)
Round 6 Pick 32 (K.C.): Dallas Lloyd, SS, Stanford (C)
Round 7 Pick 27 (K.C.): Ben Boulware, ILB, Clemson (C+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Nate Hairston, CB, Temple (C)

I don't love the overall grading system here. It didn't pop up needs that we as fans see as needs. So I made 3 "big" trades.

Move down from 30 to 31 whil picking up Atlanta's 2nd in the process. Moved from 2-30 to 2-32 while picking up a third.

I got some guys I really like early one. Lawson off the edge. Sutton can come in and play almost right away. Bucky is what we think Green can be without the concussion issues and salary. JuJu is exactly what I want at WR and is a blend of our 2 types of WR's. Tanoh can be a base 4 man front end. Kaaya as a developmental QB. D'Onta to be the RB2 and change of pace guy. Vanderdoes at DT to spell Hargrave and push Mt. McCul. Lloyd and Boulware are limited upside guys, but can play right away. Hairston is a developmental guy to work with at corner, where the hope is picking him can allow us to sneak him onto the practice squad.
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Hahahahaha.

Jones' only chance is to go to Tenn. Otherwise he is flipping burgers this fall.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are two from Fanspeak. The first using the Mark Miller rankings and the 2nd using the composite rankings

30: R1P30 CB QUINCY WILSON FLORIDA
62: R2P30 EDGE CARL LAWSON AUBURN
94: R3P30 TE JORDAN LEGGETT CLEMSON
105: R3P4 WR CHRIS GODWIN PENN STATE
135: R4P28 CB HOWARD WILSON HOUSTON
173: R5P29 LB JALEN REEVES-MAYBIN TENNESSEE
213: R6P29 QB CHAD KELLY MISSISSIPPI
248: R7P30 DL STEVIE TU'IKOLOVATU USC

30: R1P30 LB JARRAD DAVIS FLORIDA
62: R2P30 EDGE JORDAN WILLIS KANSAS STATE
94: R3P30 RB JOE MIXON OKLAHOMA
105: R3P41 CB CHIDOBE AWUZIE COLORADO
135: R4P28 WR CHRIS GODWIN PENN STATE
173: R5P29DL DEATRICH WISE JR. ARKANSAS
213: R6P29 QB C.J. BEATHARD IOWA
248: R7P30 TE GEORGE KITTLE IOWA
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After 2 trades....
Your score is: 11180 (GRADE: B)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 16 (MINN): TreDavious White, CB, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 30: Derek Rivers, DE, Youngstown State (B)
Round 3 Pick 15 (MINN): Marcus Maye, FS, Florida (B-)
Round 3 Pick 22 (MINN): Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado (C+)
Round 3 Pick 30: Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan (A)
Round 3 Pick 41 (COMP): Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A)
Round 4 Pick 31 (CINN): Connor Harris, ILB, Lindenwood (A+)
Round 5 Pick 9 (CINN): James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh (B+)
Round 6 Pick 10 (PHI): Billy Brown, TE, Shepherd (C-)
Round 6 Pick 29: Deatrich Wise Jr., DE, Arkansas (D+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Avery Gennesy, OG, Texas A&M (C+)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First-Pick: Your score is: 11642 (GRADE: B+)

Traded 1st #30 to Carolina for 2nd #s 8 and 32.
Carolina takes TreDavious White, CB, LSU...

RD2 P8 Ryan Anderson, OLB/DE, Alabama (C): NFL Comparison: Ahmad Brooks. Bottom Line Well-schooled with a high football IQ and a history as a winner. His disciplined, assignment-based approach to the game should resonate with defensive coordinators. Lack of length and average athletic traits could put a cap on his draft stock, but he should be a safe pick and a long-time starter as an outside linebacker.

RD2 P30 Adam Shaheen, TE, Ashland (A): NFL Comparison: Vance McDonald. Bottom Line Big, fast and athletic, Shaheen will immediately interest teams who are looking for size and traits. He's a poorer blocker than what might be expected for a player with his frame, but he's also a much more dangerous pass catching target. The jump in competition will be substantial and teams will expect him to become a more consistent blocker, but he's a pass catching tight end in a Y-tight end's body. Shaheen has starting potential with an ability to impact a passing game early in his career.

RD2 P32 Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado (B): NFL Comparison: Patrick Robinson. Bottom Line Possesses a rare combination of size and speed and saw his ball production take a substantial leap this season. Witherspoon played just one season of high school football so his technique and route awareness should continue to improve. Witherspoon's length and his ability to mirror and match in space should launch him into early playing time, but his unwillingness to tackle and hit will be a complete turn-off for some teams.

RD3 Trade P30 to SF for RD4s P2 and 36 and RD5 P17.
SF takes Eddie Jackson, SS, Alabama.

RD3 P41 Kevin King, CB, Washington (A): NFL Comparison: Damian Swann. Bottom Line Unusually tall cornerback with experience playing in the slot and as a starting safety. Showed improved instincts and ball production in 2016, but there are still concerns about whether he has the athleticism and recovery speed to utilize his length to play the football. Might be best suited to more zone coverage or off-man based on his speed limitations, but in either scheme he'll need to improve his aggressiveness as a tackler.

RD4 P2 Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan (A+): NFL Comparison: Mohamed Sanu. Bottom Line Darboh caught the attention of scouts from very early on in his final season at Michigan. Darboh's outstanding size will have some teams excited, but he needs to run well at the combine in order to be targeted as a "size/speed" prospect. He lacks the quickness and hands to make a living underneath, but has the physical traits and willingness to help as a blocker that could get teams to bite on the second day of the draft (Rounds 2-3). Scheme fit could determine whether he becomes a WR2 or just a guy fighting for snaps off the bench.

RD4 P28 Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami (Fla.) (A+): Surprise! NFL Comparison: Cody Kessler. Bottom Line Groomed to be a quarterback from an early age, Kaaya flashes the mechanics and intelligence of a player who has spent hours in quarterback camps. However, he can be too mechanical and thinks too much rather than just flowing and responding to what the field offers him. Kaaya could have used another year of college, but he has the tools and intangibles to become an NFL starter. While he can work around his average arm strength, he must improve his accuracy and anticipation if he is to make a mark in the NFL.

RD4 P36 James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh (B): NFL Comparison: T.J. Duckett. Bottom Line Physical, battering-ram style runner who makes the hitting a two-way affair. Conner's lack of speed and reactive quickness could limit his role as a pro, but his heart, work ethic and ability to keep the chains moving could make him a red-zone specialist with the ability to handle some third down duties as well.

RD5 P17 Josh Harvey-Clemons, SS/OLB, Louisville (C+): NFL Comparison: Kam Chancellor. Bottom Line Former five-star recruit with an alpha mentality who roams the field with swagger and undeniable intent as a tackler. Has elite size, length and athletic traits, and is a rangy tackler with the ability to cover and blitz. He could be considered by teams as a box safety or hybrid linebacker. If you're compared to Chancellor then you're worth the risk!

RD5 P29 Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame (A): NFL Comparison: Jordan Phillips. Bottom Line Elite size, length and athleticism make Jones an intriguing early round prospect, but history of injuries and concerns over his football character could cause him to fall somewhat. Might have been miscast along the Irish defensive front as his playing style and body type appear to be much more suited further away from the nose spot. Jones' flashes will be tempting, but his lack of production and even snap count should be an immediate red flag along with the "proceed with caution" whispers coming from inside the program. If he can find consistent motivation, Jones could become a very good NFL starter in any defensive scheme. A true boom-or-bust prospect.

RD6 P29 Brendan Langley, CB, Lamar (TX) (D): NFL Comparison: Anthony Brown. Bottom Line Langley is a "size-speed" prospect who could be taken much earlier than his Senior Bowl tape might dictate. Langley displays issues with his mirror and match footwork from press coverage and might be better suited in off-man or zone coverage where he can read quarterbacks and utilize his ball skills with the play in front of him. Langley has NFL backup potential.

RD7 P30 Avery Moss, DE, Youngstown State (C-): NFL Comparison: Robert Ayers. Bottom Line Moss is an ascending prospect who possesses the length and juice off the edge expected of open-side rusher. His big closing burst can be felt against both the run and pass and he translates to either 4-3 defensive end or 3-4 rush linebacker. Moss was productive at both Nebraska and Youngstown and his traits could lead to continued success as an eventual NFL starter.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fanspeak CBS

I would be happy with this haul.

1: R1P30
ILB/OLB HAASON REDDICK
TEMPLE
2: R2P30
CB TEEZ TABOR
FLORIDA
3: R3P30
EDGE DEREK RIVERS
YOUNGSTOWN STATE
4: R3P41
WR JUJU SMITH-SCHUSTER
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
5: R4P28
DE TANOH KPASSAGNON
VILLANOVA
6: R5P29
CB DAMONTAE KAZEE
SAN DIEGO STATE
7: R6P29
RB T.J. LOGAN
NORTH CAROLINA
8: R7P30
S JOHNATHAN FORD
AUBURN
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first-pick.com needs to really update team needs.

Anyways, I was a trading machine in this one:

Round 1 Pick 16: I traded 1-30 and a 2018 1st to Baltimore for their pick and took: Taco Charlton, DE/OLB, Michigan (A-)

Big price to pay, but I think Taco is really worth it and Dupree/Taco off the ends for 10ish years is a great setup to have.

TRADE - 2-30 for 3-2, 4-2, 5-2 - San Fran wanted to jump up here to take Tyus Bowser, OLB from Houston. Moving down 4 spots with plenty of players left I like was worth it to get the extra picks which will help out.

Round 3 Pick 2: Cameron Sutton, CB, Tennessee (A). Fill a need here with a Artie Burns like player. Very solid move and the fact I was able to pick up 2 picks and still get the player I wanted is worth it to me.

Sad Failed Trade: I offered the Chargers 3-30 and 3-41 for pick 3-7. They rejected it and took Budda Baker, the player I was trying to jump up for.

Round 3 Pick 30: After that failed trade I stayed put and picked up Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A). I really like him as a rangy center field type FA that we haven't had in a long time. Also has the willingness to tackle, which is a huge plus.

Round 3 Pick 41: Yup still in the third round. It's insisting that I need a WR still, and there was one on the board I really liked, so I took Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (A+). I think this kid is going to be a star, and at this point of the 3rd round it's a freaking steal.

Round 4 Pick 2: Another decent value pick with Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU (A). Him and VW can battle it out for the other starting spot with Shazier. VW, Beckwith, Red Monster give some good special teams ability as well.

Round 4 Pick 28: This was a real crossroads decision. There was some needs on the board, and one glaring falling player: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A). I have a mid-round 2 grade on this kid. Yes WR isn't a need anymore, but going true to my board I could not sit there and watch this slide go on much longer.

Round 5 Pick 2: Man this SF trade has really paid off as I picked up Lorenzo Jerome, SS, Saint Francis (PA) (A) with this pick. Someone to push Davis or give us the ability to really move Davis around and no lose coverage ability with a 3 safety look.

Round 5 Pick 29: I felt like a good place for developmental and a challenge for the 3rd QB. So I took Jerod Evans, QB, Virginia Tech (B).

Round 6 Pick 29: At this point I filled all the needs so I'm looking at a possible PS player and took Damien Mama, OG, Southern California (C).

Round 7 Pick 30: Man I have filled almost everything. With the last pick we had I took a fun little player I like in Tarik Cohen, RB, North Carolina A&T (C).

Depth Chart (Rookies in Bold):
QB - Ben R., Landry J., Jerod E.
RB - LeVeon B., Knile D., Fitzgerald T. PS - Tarik C.
TE - Jesse J., Ladarius G., Xavier G.
LT - Alejandro V., Jerald H.
LG - Ramon F., BJ F.
C - Markice P., Cody W.
RG - David D., BJ F. PS - Damien Mama
RT - Marcus G., Jerald H.
WR 1 - Antonio B., Martavius B.
WR 2 - Chris G., Justin H.
WR 3 - Eli R., JuJu S-S

DE - Stephon T., Tyson A.
NT - Javon H., Daniel Mc.
DE - Cam H., LT W.
OLB - James H., Taco C.
ILB - Ryan S., Kendell B.
ILB - Vince W., Tyler M.
OLB - Bud D., Arthur M., Anthony C.
CB1 - Artie B., Cameron S.
CB2 - Ross C., Coty S.
CB3 - William G.
SS - Sean D., Lorenzo J.
FS - Marcus W., Mike M.
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Hahahahaha.

Jones' only chance is to go to Tenn. Otherwise he is flipping burgers this fall.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not as big on Taco as many here but I saw he weighed in at 251lbs at his Pro Day. I wonder if it's typo as he weighed in at the 277lbs at the Combine a month ago. If the 251lbs is a legit, there is a good chance he'll be there at #30 as 4-3 teams may shy away from him.
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why does KC have Houston (who is returning from a knee) cover AB on a crucial play? THAT makes no sense

They Butlered themselves. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fanspeak Composite Big Board

Two Dogs, One Bone Draft

Probably not realistically accurate but fun to dream. If we got these first 5 picks, that would put us over the top imo.

30: R1P30
EDGE TAKKARIST MCKINLEY
UCLA
62: R2P30
CB CHIDOBE AWUZIE
COLORADO
94: R3P30
EDGE JORDAN WILLIS
KANSAS STATE
105: R3P41
CB FABIAN MOREAU
UCLA
135: R4P28
WR CHRIS GODWIN
PENN STATE
173: R5P29
RB JAMES CONNER
PITTSBURGH
213: R6P29
TE ERIC SAUBERT
DRAKE
248: R7P30
S XAVIER WOODS
LOUISIANA TECH
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RD 1 Careon Conley cb

RD 2 Jordan Willis edge

RD3 Budda Baker s

RD 3 Adam Shaheen te

RD 4 Trey Hendrickson edge

RD 5 Ben Gedeon ilb

RD 6 Ryan Switzer wr

RD 7 Javancy Jones ilb
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think I finally got a great one on first-pick.com:

Your score is: 13093 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 30: Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri (A-)
Round 3 Pick 6 (NYJ): Kevin King, CB, Washington (A+)
Round 3 Pick 30: Bucky Hodges, TE, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 3 Pick 41 (COMP): ArDarius Stewart, WR, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 43 (NYJ): Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (B)
Round 4 Pick 28: Lorenzo Jerome, SS, Saint Francis (PA) (A-)
Round 5 Pick 6 (NYJ): Sean Harlow, OG, Oregon State (A-)
Round 5 Pick 29: Ben Gedeon, ILB, Michigan (B+)
Round 6 Pick 29: Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss (B-)
Round 7 Pick 30: T.J. Logan, RB, North Carolina (B+)

I really love this outcome. Of course though first-pick hasn't updated needs so some of these picks are based purely off me trying to get the highest grade I could get.
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Hahahahaha.

Jones' only chance is to go to Tenn. Otherwise he is flipping burgers this fall.
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