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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When we sat down to figure out the criteria / restrictions needed to Extend or restructure a players contract we did so with the idea that not every player is going to accept an extension. The guideline we created to what I feel makes it more realistic is to not provide the extension offer to a player past a certain age in the likelihood the said player has just as much chance to retire than they would to extend another contract.

These types of contracts are basically 100% subjective opinion because we can't say with any certainty if a player would be willing to extend another contract or not. So rather than making it where we have to decide on every player being offered an extension, we set up some reasonable restrictions on which players likely would accept.

It's not a perfect science but IMO it provides a bit more realism, rather than a free for all. It also, provides a little more incentive to game plan.

As for Witten, his age based on the restrictions prevents you from offering a extension contract. Not that the statistics play a role in the restrictions but statistically, Witten is on the decline and very likely could retire after this season.

I understand your team is negative in cap, but there are several ways to gain cap without the need to extend a contract, whom I see as a declining veteran.


Because Witten only has one year left on his contract, he can't be restructured and there's obviously no option for a pay cut so extending him was my only option not only to clear cap room but to also ensure he retires a Cowboy. Witten retiring wouldn't do me any good since the mock would be finished by then. Just don't believe that age should be the determining factor.


Who's to say he doesn't retire a cowboy after this season?


He could retire but by the time that happens, this mock will be finished and thus, doesn't help me whatsoever.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Question about free agency -

Is everyone who is bidded on awarded at the end of each round? Like, if I'm the only one who makes an offer on a player the first round, is he automatically awarded to me, or does he stay on the FA list for another round of bids to see if anyone else bids on him?


Also, there may be a player who is a free agent that isn't on the list that I may have been interested in signing. I didn't see him on the list, and I don't think I missed him. Does that mean I can just have him for the vet minimum? Laughing (I'm kidding, I know that's not what it means)


Message me the player you are interested in, there is a good chance that he has a voided contract or is practice squad list that I haven't updated or posted yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dan77733 wrote:
ny92jefferis wrote:
dan77733 wrote:
ny92jefferis wrote:
When we sat down to figure out the criteria / restrictions needed to Extend or restructure a players contract we did so with the idea that not every player is going to accept an extension. The guideline we created to what I feel makes it more realistic is to not provide the extension offer to a player past a certain age in the likelihood the said player has just as much chance to retire than they would to extend another contract.

These types of contracts are basically 100% subjective opinion because we can't say with any certainty if a player would be willing to extend another contract or not. So rather than making it where we have to decide on every player being offered an extension, we set up some reasonable restrictions on which players likely would accept.

It's not a perfect science but IMO it provides a bit more realism, rather than a free for all. It also, provides a little more incentive to game plan.

As for Witten, his age based on the restrictions prevents you from offering a extension contract. Not that the statistics play a role in the restrictions but statistically, Witten is on the decline and very likely could retire after this season.

I understand your team is negative in cap, but there are several ways to gain cap without the need to extend a contract, whom I see as a declining veteran.


Because Witten only has one year left on his contract, he can't be restructured and there's obviously no option for a pay cut so extending him was my only option not only to clear cap room but to also ensure he retires a Cowboy. Witten retiring wouldn't do me any good since the mock would be finished by then. Just don't believe that age should be the determining factor.


Who's to say he doesn't retire a cowboy after this season?


He could retire but by the time that happens, this mock will be finished and thus, doesn't help me whatsoever.


Haha...feels like realism to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ny92jefferis wrote:
dan77733 wrote:
ny92jefferis wrote:
dan77733 wrote:
ny92jefferis wrote:
When we sat down to figure out the criteria / restrictions needed to Extend or restructure a players contract we did so with the idea that not every player is going to accept an extension. The guideline we created to what I feel makes it more realistic is to not provide the extension offer to a player past a certain age in the likelihood the said player has just as much chance to retire than they would to extend another contract.

These types of contracts are basically 100% subjective opinion because we can't say with any certainty if a player would be willing to extend another contract or not. So rather than making it where we have to decide on every player being offered an extension, we set up some reasonable restrictions on which players likely would accept.

It's not a perfect science but IMO it provides a bit more realism, rather than a free for all. It also, provides a little more incentive to game plan.

As for Witten, his age based on the restrictions prevents you from offering a extension contract. Not that the statistics play a role in the restrictions but statistically, Witten is on the decline and very likely could retire after this season.

I understand your team is negative in cap, but there are several ways to gain cap without the need to extend a contract, whom I see as a declining veteran.


Because Witten only has one year left on his contract, he can't be restructured and there's obviously no option for a pay cut so extending him was my only option not only to clear cap room but to also ensure he retires a Cowboy. Witten retiring wouldn't do me any good since the mock would be finished by then. Just don't believe that age should be the determining factor.


Who's to say he doesn't retire a cowboy after this season?


He could retire but by the time that happens, this mock will be finished and thus, doesn't help me whatsoever.


Haha...feels like realism to me.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick question.
The adj contract length on some of the free agents is 7, is that the length of contract they want and if I offer a shorter contract I have no chance of winning that player?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTMW78 wrote:
Quick question.
The adj contract length on some of the free agents is 7, is that the length of contract they want and if I offer a shorter contract I have no chance of winning that player?


Not "no" chance but it does effect the formula and it reduces your chance, yes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question regarding FA again - if players do not have a bid, their salary request decreases. Does the years requested on their contract go down as well?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forge wrote:
Question regarding FA again - if players do not have a bid, their salary request decreases. Does the years requested on their contract go down as well?


Correct, after each bidding round the expected APY decreases 10%, more for declining vets. The players signing bonus and contract length will decrease as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ny92jefferis wrote:
Forge wrote:
Question regarding FA again - if players do not have a bid, their salary request decreases. Does the years requested on their contract go down as well?


Correct, after each bidding round the expected APY decreases 10%, more for declining vets. The players signing bonus and contract length will decrease as well.


Follow up (sorry) - if I bid in the first round, and don't offer the desired contract length, but nobody else bids on him, is he mine?
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Forge wrote:
ny92jefferis wrote:
Forge wrote:
Question regarding FA again - if players do not have a bid, their salary request decreases. Does the years requested on their contract go down as well?


Correct, after each bidding round the expected APY decreases 10%, more for declining vets. The players signing bonus and contract length will decrease as well.


Follow up (sorry) - if I bid in the first round, and don't offer the desired contract length, but nobody else bids on him, is he mine?


Yes, the only mandatory part of the contract is the Expected APY. You are permitted to offer less or no signing bonus but the bonus is weighted so by not offering one it would hurt you if another team is bidding on said player.

Offering less in terms of contract length will hurt your odds slightly, but its not a deal breaker either.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you trade draft picks you've acquired through trades?
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Can you trade draft picks you've acquired through trades?


Yessir
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this mock take into account guaranteed base salary?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB Jamar Taylor is not listed on Cleveland's roster link. Signed a new contract w them last year
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Anger just signed a deal a few weeks ago but he is listed as a FA
Here is the link to his new deal
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000766501/article/bucs-sign-punter-bryan-anger-to-5year-extension
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