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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:16 pm    Post subject: Boda's Mock Offseason v1.0 Reply with quote



Players Not Brought Back
QB - Shaun Hill *Retires*
RB - Matt Asiata
WR - Charles Johnson
RG - Brandon Fusco
RT - Andre Smith
LT - Matt Kalil
DE - Justin Trattou
DT - Tom Johnson *Released*
LB - Chad Greenway *Retires*
LB - Audie Cole
CB - Terrance Newman *Retires*

Players Re-Signed
RB - Adrian Peterson (Reworks his current deal for some guaranteed money on a 2 year deal with incentives to make up to 10M, new Contract will pay him 5.5M which would be 9th best next season)
FB - Zach Line
WR - Cordarrelle Patterson (With Shumur being brought back Patterson has a clear role on this team not only as a WR but as a KR)
WR - Adam Thielen
TE - Rhett Ellison
OG - Zac Kerin
RT - Jeremiah Sirles
CB - Captain Munnerlyn
P - Jeff Locke

Trades
WR - Jarius Wright to the Bills for 5th round pick
DT - Sharrif Floyd to the Saints for 3rd Round pick

Players Signed via FA
Target #1 - Riley Reiff - RT

A player with experience at LT if things go completely south again but a guy who can hold his own and give us some stability at RT something that is clearly lacking here

Target #2 - Manti Te'o - LB

I personally don't feel comfortable with Lamur as my starting/3rd LB

Target #3 - Andrew Whitworth - LT

Stop gap LT, the Vikings finally decide to move on from Kalil and improve their offensive line in the process



Draft
2(46) - Taylor Moton (OL) Western Michigan | 6'5" 328lbs

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His max squat is 570 pounds and he throws up 400 pounds on the bench press with ease.

“He’s got tremendous power,” said Western Michigan offensive line coach Brian Callahan. “He’s tremendously strong.”

Excellent strength and possesses elite power. Very versatile, and can play inside or outside. Working on his footwork as a tackle, but already a top level run blocker.


3(76) - Julie'n Davenport (OT) Bucknell | 6'6" 315lbs

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He's big, he's quick and he's a ferocious blocker when confronted. He's also a two-time team captain for the Bisons.


3(80) - D'Onta Foreman (RB) Texas
| 6'1" 249lbs

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A very powerful back that has been the most productive back in the FBS this year. He is not just your typical power back, though, as has the agility to make defenders miss. He also has the ability to accelerate very quickly for a back his size.

Big-bodied running back prospect who features deceptive speed. In fact, he has arguably the best 2nd gear in the 2017 NFL Draft running back class. This is someone who quickly shoots through open holes and takes it to the house.

North-south runner who looks to get up field. He shows the ability to run with patience and allow his blocks to set up.

Power back with burst.
Incredible in pass protection. Perhaps the best in the draft.
Great vision and cutting ability.


3(87) - Jarron Jones (DT) Notre Dame | 6'5" 315lbs

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For a man of his size, Jones shows good initial quickness and flexibility to slip through gaps.

His best asset, however, is his power and length. Jones generates a powerful bull rush, showing impressive upper body strength as well as leg drive to push opponents into the backfield.


4(111) - Tanoh Kpassagnon (DE) Villanova | 6'6" 285lbs

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Fires off the ball, routinely blowing past offensive tackles with his initial burst to the outside. Complements his speed rush with an effective counter back to the inside off of a strong jab step. Strong hands to rip through the reach of tackles, slapping them away. Good flexibility and core strength to fight through contact on his way to the backfield, including through double-teams.

Voted a team captain and is highly respected by the Villanova coaching staff and teammates for his commitment towards maximizing his potential on and off the field.


4(118) - Damontae Kazee (CB) San Diego St | 5'10" 190lbs

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Confident in press man coverage, showing a low, tight backpedal and smooth turning motion. Good route anticipation and understands angles, keep his frame between the receiver and the quarterback.

Competitive open-field tackler, who aggressively slithers his way past would-be blockers to get into the action. Not an imposing hitter but is a sure tackler who wraps his arms for the secure stop.

Tracks the ball well, exhibiting the body control and concentration to make difficult over-the-shoulder grabs.


5 - Travin Dural (WR) LSU | 6'2" 203lbs

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Dural offers rare straight-line speed for a receiver of his size.

He accelerates smoothly, showing a distinct second gear to track down deep throws. Dural tracks the ball well over his shoulder and shows excellent timing on his leaps and hand-eye coordination to contort in space to make the tough grab outside of his frame.


5 - Kendell Beckwith (LB) LSU | 6'2" 252lbs

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Beckwith is extremely patient with a natural feel to sift through the trash, find the ball and make the stop. He is a fundamentally sound tackler with strong hands to hook, stay low and drop the ballcarrier, using leverage to wrap and finish.

Beckwith has the power and physical mentality to take on linemen at the second level, acting as a hammer between the tackles vs. the run game.

Beckwith is viewed as one of the veteran leaders in the locker room.



6 - Jalen Reeves-Maybin (LB) Tennessee | 6'0" 230lbs

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Has terrific diagnosis skills, frequently breaking through the line of scrimmage on outside runs and is especially keen to blowing up screen passes.

His previous experience at safety shows with his comfort with his back to the ball. He's also a savvy blitzer, showing good timing, burst and active hands to defeat blocks.



7 - Greg Pyke (OG) Georgia | 6'5" 313lbs

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Pyke possesses great core strength and leg drive which allows him to push defensive tackles off the ball on his way toward the second level.

In pass protection, Pyke shows good initial quickness, as well as lateral agility to mirror defenders. He attacks defenders with a strong initial punch and anchors well due to proper knee bend and his core strength. Alert to stunts and surprise blitzes.



Final Roster
Offense(24)
QB(2) - Sam Bradford | Taylor Heinicke | Teddy Bridgewater(PUP)
HB(4) - Adrian Peterson | D'Onta Foreman | Jerick McKinnon | Zach Line
WR(5) - S. Diggs | A. Thielen | L. Treadwell | C.Patterson | T. Dural
TE(3) - Kyle Rudolph | David Morgan | Rhett Ellison
OT(5) - Whitworth | Reiff | Davenport | Clemmings | Sirles
OG(3) - Boone | Moton | Kerin | Pyke(PS) | ?Harris?
OC(2) - Easton | Berger

Defense(27)
DE(4) - E. Griffen | Hunter | B. Robison | T. Kpassagnon
DT(5) - Joesph | Stephen | J. Jones | Toby Johnson | S. Cricton
OLB(5) - Barr | Lamur | Te'o | E. Robinson | Reeves-Maybin
ILB(3) - Kendricks | Beckwith | Brothers
CB(6) - Rhodes | Waynes | Munnerlyn | Alexander | Kazee | Sherels
S(4) - Smith | Sendejo | Kearse | Harris

Special Teams(2)
K - Forbath
P - Locke

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's the long snapper?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Offseason!

Like mine, it's a hefty offseason haul with F/A's

The trades are a little unrealistic. Maybe not so much the Floyd trade, going to be hard to shop a player that has had continuous injuries through his time in the NFL, but when healthy he is all of 3rd round talent for a trade.

Wright will be a little tougher when even the team that signed him to his contract wouldn't even put him on the active game roster throughout the year. 5th round would be asking a little much I believe

Julie'n Davenport is really the only selection I wouldn't be pushing for, he has the size you want, much like Clemmings, but with Sparano's "Power" blocking scheme these types of athletic players that are "arm-y" tend to fail. Their best luck usually comes in a ZBS type system. Who knows tho, right? Maybe he turns out spectacular!

Nice.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Players Not Brought Back:
WR - Charles Johnson
DE - Justin Trattou
DT - Tom Johnson *Released*
LB - Audie Cole


why?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SemperFeist wrote:
Who's the long snapper?

eh who needs one of those anyways Cool

An injury will happen somewhere and it'll work itself out but if I had to chose right now I'd put Kerin on PS and have McDermott take his spot
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gopherwrestler wrote:
Nice Offseason!

Like mine, it's a hefty offseason haul with F/A's

The trades are a little unrealistic. Maybe not so much the Floyd trade, going to be hard to shop a player that has had continuous injuries through his time in the NFL, but when healthy he is all of 3rd round talent for a trade.

Wright will be a little tougher when even the team that signed him to his contract wouldn't even put him on the active game roster throughout the year. 5th round would be asking a little much I believe

Julie'n Davenport is really the only selection I wouldn't be pushing for, he has the size you want, much like Clemmings, but with Sparano's "Power" blocking scheme these types of athletic players that are "arm-y" tend to fail. Their best luck usually comes in a ZBS type system. Who knows tho, right? Maybe he turns out spectacular!

Nice.

Thank you thank you.

I had Floyd on the team until the last minute because I worried about not getting equal value in a trade however I decided that if we were moving him it'd have to be for a 3rd at worst as you said when healthy he is worth every bit of a 3rd rounder and I'd argue more than that.

As for Wright a 5th might be more than he's worth but I honestly don't think so. I think him not being active had a lot more to do with our actual depth at the position but I think Wright is a very good 4th WR and a solid 3rd WR which I believe most teams would give up a 5th round pick for. I just don't really like his fit on the Vikings with Diggs & CP on the team but again I could be completely off.

And finally I've been on the Davenport bandwagon(think I've been driving it tbh) almost the entire season and I can't stop now, you could be right about him being better off in a zbs as I have trouble scouting offensive lineman early. I seem to do okay with the later guys but I thought he did okay holding up in the games/clips I seen but I suppose that could be from the talent level.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heimdallr wrote:
Players Not Brought Back:
WR - Charles Johnson
DE - Justin Trattou
DT - Tom Johnson *Released*
LB - Audie Cole
why?

Talent. Better talent replaces

Johnson was let go because I'm not a fan and I don't really trust him. I'd rather leave that last WR spot for a developing WR with a lot more upside. I mean maybe CJ develops further but at 28yrs old I kind of think he is what he is.

Trattou wasn't brought back because he was on the lower end of the talent that didn't make the roster. I'd put him on the PS if he's eligible

Tom Johnson was let go to make room for Toby Johnson who I think will have more impact next season and although Tom doesn't have a lot of miles on his tires I think everyone seen he wore down towards the end of this past season, should we expect this to get better at age 33?

Cole was just a numbers guy, I do like him but I think he's replaceable. I'm expecting Brothers to develop more and bringing in a player I feel is more talented in Beckwith
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Boda wrote:
Heimdallr wrote:
Players Not Brought Back:
WR - Charles Johnson
DE - Justin Trattou
DT - Tom Johnson *Released*
LB - Audie Cole
why?

Talent. Better talent replaces

Johnson was let go because I'm not a fan and I don't really trust him. I'd rather leave that last WR spot for a developing WR with a lot more upside. I mean maybe CJ develops further but at 28yrs old I kind of think he is what he is.

Trattou wasn't brought back because he was on the lower end of the talent that didn't make the roster. I'd put him on the PS if he's eligible

Tom Johnson was let go to make room for Toby Johnson who I think will have more impact next season and although Tom doesn't have a lot of miles on his tires I think everyone seen he wore down towards the end of this past season, should we expect this to get better at age 33?

Cole was just a numbers guy, I do like him but I think he's replaceable. I'm expecting Brothers to develop more and bringing in a player I feel is more talented in Beckwith


Yeah, I wouldn't mind moving on from Johnson. I like this offseason a lot. If they could get Reif and Whitworth...it'd be awesome.
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One question I have for you and others...given his injury issues, and inconsistent play when healthy, is Floyd really worth a 3rd round pick?
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Virginia Viking wrote:
One question I have for you and others...given his injury issues, and inconsistent play when healthy, is Floyd really worth a 3rd round pick?


Agreed, I think he's probably worth a fifth round pick at this point. You could maybe say the Vikings could trade him and a fifth for a third, but straight up for a third, not likely. And Jarius Wright is probably not going to fetch a fifth.

As for the draft, I'd love it, mainly because you have players falling down to the Vikings who won't likely do so.
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The Gnat wrote:
Virginia Viking wrote:
One question I have for you and others...given his injury issues, and inconsistent play when healthy, is Floyd really worth a 3rd round pick?


Agreed, I think he's probably worth a fifth round pick at this point. You could maybe say the Vikings could trade him and a fifth for a third, but straight up for a third, not likely. And Jarius Wright is probably not going to fetch a fifth.

As for the draft, I'd love it, mainly because you have players falling down to the Vikings who won't likely do so.

I strongly disagree with your entire take here. I the Vikings would really trade Wright just to see the value here. He definitely has more value than a 5th round pick.

I wouldn't touch trading Floyd for a 5th, you'd be selling him entirely short, when healthy he is a good player, the gamble with him is his health. Maybe a 3rd is too much but I just don't think so.

Last the draft we hear people every year saying so and so won't fall but yet players fall every year. I went with CBS rankings mixed with my own feelings of what will happen so with that said who do I have falling that you don't think will?


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I start by saying that I hope this is a reality .. end product of the off-season, but I feel it is a bit too optimistic.... I don't want to state fully what I think is too optimistic, and don't think another off-season mock is needed now.

but:

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WR - Jarius Wright to the Bills for 5th round pick
DT - Sharrif Floyd to the Saints for 3rd Round pick


I think both these trades are far too in favor of the Vikings.

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I support.

Add: extensions to Bradford and Rhodes.
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pretty solid overall. don't know much about the first Offensive Lineman though.

Free Agent guys look like good stop gap players.
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I am curious as to your thoughts on bringing back Peterson and drafting Foreman?
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Snake Plissken wrote:
I am curious as to your thoughts on bringing back Peterson and drafting Foreman?

The decision to bring back Peterson is made prior the draft and when the Vikings start to see Foreman drop they jump to draft him. I honestly believe Foreman is going to lose his 1st/2nd round hype once the combine comes out. I think his 40 time is going to be slower than most expect. If he does have a good combine I agree that he won't fall.

Further reasoning is I think that Peterson can start off the season as the starter and we work in Foreman kind of like how we brought AP along while we had Chester Taylor. The starter will work itself out as the season goes on.
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