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DC4_Life


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really surprised how we won 12 games. Shows how great Mack, Carr, Oline played....

All those needs
RB- need stud runner with thump and vision
Slot WR- inconsistent slot
Tight End- inconsistent, but have a good prospect

then look at defense
25 sacks, Mack and Irvin only guys putting pressure on qbs
no interior push
weakside backer glaring hole
middle linebacker- picked a guy off the streets and he was instant starter
corner- big corners but no speed/explosion corners
safety- joseph was out alot, and nelson was okay but really lacked speed

now have concerns with Penn age, Aldon state of mind, Mario injury history, New RB.. Reggie needs to have a hell of offseason for us to really take that step to be super bowl contenders! We aren't in it to be in the playoffs, we are the Raiders. use to be the up there with Super Bowl Rings and win percentage.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DC4_Life wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
@rapsheet reporting KNJ is staying

Really disappointing news to be honest if true. The Raiders have hit his ceiling IMO.

This is kind of like not addressing MLB last offseason. A problem we all see a mile away, but no fix coming.

Going into 2018 with KNJ inspires little no confidence.


Ben Henney was probably the biggest disappointment of 2016. He was playing good at the end of 2015, but couldn't hold down that MLB spot. Reggie faith wasn't rewarded in this case.


Based on what? Dude had horrible instincts, constantly getting fooled, late on plays, and can't shed for his life. That's why he got dropped all the way down to the 5th round of the 2015 NFL Draft. We need to stop overvalue our players like they're some big time players when actually these guys are backups at best. Perfect example is Perry Riley Jr and David Amerson.

Ken Norton Jr. is just flat out horrible. I can't believe he's back. What a clueless moron. He's worst than John Marshall, Rob Ryan, and Chuck Bresnahan. He must got some dirt on Jack Del Rio or something because there's no way he should be back next season.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If KNJ stays as the DC, and that seems to be the case. What role will Wade Phillips play? An advisor?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totty wrote:
If KNJ stays as the DC, and that seems to be the case. What role will Wade Phillips play? An advisor?


Can't see him coming here at all
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Rapoport
The #Raiders will be interviewing #Broncos DC Wade Phillips for their defensive coordinator position tomorrow.


SORRY FAKE ACCOUNT INFO...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolni wrote:
Ian Rapoport
The #Raiders will be interviewing #Broncos DC Wade Phillips for their defensive coordinator position tomorrow.


Interesting. So maybe Norton will get the axe, or will be kept as LB coach? Is that even possible?


Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray

Oh please god. Please.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RaidersAreOne wrote:
Rolni wrote:
Ian Rapoport
The #Raiders will be interviewing #Broncos DC Wade Phillips for their defensive coordinator position tomorrow.


Interesting. So maybe Norton will get the axe, or will be kept as LB coach? Is that even possible?


Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray

Oh please god. Please.


Sorry but that was a fake account...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are occasions in sport where the fans can see something that for some reason the ownership can't, and keeping this useless bum Norton is one of these occasions. You'll get people who try to rationalize it and say stuff like "but if we have a better MLB we'll be better", but realistically he's a useless DC, a waste of a contract and a guy who will continue to hold back our defense next season.

There's a very good chance we'll be sitting here a year from now lamenting this decision, as we finish with a bottom 10 defense yet again.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nightmare wrote:
There are occasions in sport where the fans can see something that for some reason the ownership can't, and keeping this useless bum Norton is one of these occasions. You'll get people who try to rationalize it and say stuff like "but if we have a better MLB we'll be better", but realistically he's a useless DC, a waste of a contract and a guy who will continue to hold back our defense next season.

There's a very good chance we'll be sitting here a year from now lamenting this decision, as we finish with a bottom 10 defense yet again.


I am not a huge Norton fan, but there is something to be said for giving co-ordinators a period of time to develop - Norton was a position coach before, and being a DC is a step-up.

However, if you have a chance at a blue chip DC like Phillips, especially when the other side of the ball is scoring points for fun under the guidance of your franchise QB then you really need to take it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-secondaries-this-season/

17. Oakland Raiders (15)
Top overall grade: CB Sean Smith, 82.5 (No. 22)

Top coverage grade: CB Sean Smith, 82.3 (No. 24)

Top run-defense grade: S Reggie Nelson, 78.5 (No. 34)

Most snaps: S Reggie Nelson, 1,121

After a really poor start to the season, free-agent pickup Reggie Nelson played much better from Week 6 and on. Still, it didn’t match the level of play from either him or Charles Woodson (the player he replaced) in 2015. David Amerson had another 12 pass breakups this year, but his regression led to more yards and touchdowns allowed, and opposing quarterbacks’ passer rating when targeting Amerson ballooned from 66.3 in 2015 to 102.2 this year. Sean Smith had another solid season, and strong safety Karl Joseph impressed as a rookie before missing time due to injury.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakdb36 wrote:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-secondaries-this-season/

17. Oakland Raiders (15)
Top overall grade: CB Sean Smith, 82.5 (No. 22)

Top coverage grade: CB Sean Smith, 82.3 (No. 24)

Top run-defense grade: S Reggie Nelson, 78.5 (No. 34)

Most snaps: S Reggie Nelson, 1,121

After a really poor start to the season, free-agent pickup Reggie Nelson played much better from Week 6 and on. Still, it didn’t match the level of play from either him or Charles Woodson (the player he replaced) in 2015. David Amerson had another 12 pass breakups this year, but his regression led to more yards and touchdowns allowed, and opposing quarterbacks’ passer rating when targeting Amerson ballooned from 66.3 in 2015 to 102.2 this year. Sean Smith had another solid season, and strong safety Karl Joseph impressed as a rookie before missing time due to injury.


But wait... I was told he didn't regress? Rolling Eyes

He was awful this season. A liability in coverage. He reverted back to the Washington version Amerson. He needs to step it up and earn that contract.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakdb36 wrote:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-secondaries-this-season/

17. Oakland Raiders (15)
Top overall grade: CB Sean Smith, 82.5 (No. 22)

Top coverage grade: CB Sean Smith, 82.3 (No. 24)

Top run-defense grade: S Reggie Nelson, 78.5 (No. 34)

Most snaps: S Reggie Nelson, 1,121

After a really poor start to the season, free-agent pickup Reggie Nelson played much better from Week 6 and on. Still, it didn’t match the level of play from either him or Charles Woodson (the player he replaced) in 2015. David Amerson had another 12 pass breakups this year, but his regression led to more yards and touchdowns allowed, and opposing quarterbacks’ passer rating when targeting Amerson ballooned from 66.3 in 2015 to 102.2 this year. Sean Smith had another solid season, and strong safety Karl Joseph impressed as a rookie before missing time due to injury.

Guess u can say I'ma Nelson defender but I'm surprised to see his run defense felt like he missed a lot of tackles
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyHarry wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-secondaries-this-season/

17. Oakland Raiders (15)
Top overall grade: CB Sean Smith, 82.5 (No. 22)

Top coverage grade: CB Sean Smith, 82.3 (No. 24)

Top run-defense grade: S Reggie Nelson, 78.5 (No. 34)

Most snaps: S Reggie Nelson, 1,121

After a really poor start to the season, free-agent pickup Reggie Nelson played much better from Week 6 and on. Still, it didn’t match the level of play from either him or Charles Woodson (the player he replaced) in 2015. David Amerson had another 12 pass breakups this year, but his regression led to more yards and touchdowns allowed, and opposing quarterbacks’ passer rating when targeting Amerson ballooned from 66.3 in 2015 to 102.2 this year. Sean Smith had another solid season, and strong safety Karl Joseph impressed as a rookie before missing time due to injury.

Guess u can say I'ma Nelson defender but I'm surprised to see his run defense felt like he missed a lot of tackles

Same here. Also, appeared to lack the speed to prevent big plays from happening. I guess he's getting old haha.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know the impact on Aldon's contract since he was suspended all of last year? Do we still have his rights for 2 years or is there now just 1 year left on the contract?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drfrey13 wrote:
Does anyone know the impact on Aldon's contract since he was suspended all of last year? Do we still have his rights for 2 years or is there now just 1 year left on the contract?


The contract tolls. We have him for 2 years.
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