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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blkwdw13 wrote:
G08 wrote:
GOGRIESE wrote:
G08 wrote:
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Hearing Bears have interest in Jim Tomsula, Joe Barry and/or possibly Ray Horton for position spot.
https://twitter.com/TyYoungfelt/status/818138579369127940

Tomsula was a fool as a HC. But on defense he's a damn good coach.


Who the hell is Ty Youngfelt?


He's actually legit otherwise I wouldnt post his tweets. He has sources in the Bears org.


Okay, but who is he?


He's TY "MF" Youngfelt


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G08 wrote:
blkwdw13 wrote:
G08 wrote:
GOGRIESE wrote:
G08 wrote:
GOGRIESE wrote:
Hearing Bears have interest in Jim Tomsula, Joe Barry and/or possibly Ray Horton for position spot.
https://twitter.com/TyYoungfelt/status/818138579369127940

Tomsula was a fool as a HC. But on defense he's a damn good coach.


Who the hell is Ty Youngfelt?


He's actually legit otherwise I wouldnt post his tweets. He has sources in the Bears org.


Okay, but who is he?


He's TY "MF" Youngfelt


Laughing


No idea on his actual name Laughing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuggghhhhh. Been a fan of Hurtt's since he was a bagman for Charlie Strong at Louisville. Was hoping he'd follow Charlie to Texas - but was absolutely thrilled when the Bears offered and he accepted.

Can't believe we let this guy get away. Honestly this is the kind of mistake that [inappropriate/removed] FO/Coaching staff's make. You have to find a way to keep bright young coaches like Hurtt on staff.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudderfudder77 wrote:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuggghhhhh. Been a fan of Hurtt's since he was a bagman for Charlie Strong at Louisville. Was hoping he'd follow Charlie to Texas - but was absolutely thrilled when the Bears offered and he accepted.

Can't believe we let this guy get away. Honestly this is the kind of mistake that [inappropriate/removed] FO/Coaching staff's make. You have to find a way to keep bright young coaches like Hurtt on staff.


Sounded like we tried to keep him, but he declined. Can't force him to sign again. It does suck though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sugashane wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuggghhhhh. Been a fan of Hurtt's since he was a bagman for Charlie Strong at Louisville. Was hoping he'd follow Charlie to Texas - but was absolutely thrilled when the Bears offered and he accepted.

Can't believe we let this guy get away. Honestly this is the kind of mistake that [inappropriate/removed] FO/Coaching staff's make. You have to find a way to keep bright young coaches like Hurtt on staff.


Sounded like we tried to keep him, but he declined. Can't force him to sign again. It does suck though.


Ya exactly. Not really much the Bears could have done besides maybe offered more money, but if his heart was somewhere else then what can you really do?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He declined an extension, correct? Makes me wonder why he wanted to jump ship...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He declined an extension, correct? Makes me wonder why he wanted to jump ship...


Yeah it makes you wonder, since he went to the Jets, who have a head coach who is on just as thin ice as Fox is.

Since the Bears tried to re-sign him I'd guess it was more of a personal reason. Like I mentioned in another post he is from New York state so it could have been to be closer to home. Or it could have been money. Who really knows.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He actually seems to have some legit insider information. He's been described as a Chicago Bears "ace" on twitter by several people. Over 23,000 followers including Dan Durkin and Jayson Braddock of Scout.com. Definitely looks like there could be some truth to this.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

topwop1 wrote:
Sugashane wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuggghhhhh. Been a fan of Hurtt's since he was a bagman for Charlie Strong at Louisville. Was hoping he'd follow Charlie to Texas - but was absolutely thrilled when the Bears offered and he accepted.

Can't believe we let this guy get away. Honestly this is the kind of mistake that [inappropriate/removed] FO/Coaching staff's make. You have to find a way to keep bright young coaches like Hurtt on staff.


Sounded like we tried to keep him, but he declined. Can't force him to sign again. It does suck though.


Ya exactly. Not really much the Bears could have done besides maybe offered more money, but if his heart was somewhere else then what can you really do?



The problem is that we didn't have an environment (coaches, FO, contract) that made Hurtt want to stay. This was his first pro gig - and seemingly he couldn't wait to get out of here.

Hurtt is a bright young coach with a tremendous amount of potential - these are the types of guys we need to do everything we can to hang on to - and the fact that Fox/Pace couldn't speaks poorly to their abilities as administrators.
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Mudderfudder77 wrote:
topwop1 wrote:
Sugashane wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuggghhhhh. Been a fan of Hurtt's since he was a bagman for Charlie Strong at Louisville. Was hoping he'd follow Charlie to Texas - but was absolutely thrilled when the Bears offered and he accepted.

Can't believe we let this guy get away. Honestly this is the kind of mistake that [inappropriate/removed] FO/Coaching staff's make. You have to find a way to keep bright young coaches like Hurtt on staff.


Sounded like we tried to keep him, but he declined. Can't force him to sign again. It does suck though.


Ya exactly. Not really much the Bears could have done besides maybe offered more money, but if his heart was somewhere else then what can you really do?



The problem is that we didn't have an environment (coaches, FO, contract) that made Hurtt want to stay. This was his first pro gig - and seemingly he couldn't wait to get out of here.

Hurtt is a bright young coach with a tremendous amount of potential - these are the types of guys we need to do everything we can to hang on to - and the fact that Fox/Pace couldn't speaks poorly to their abilities as administrators.


I wouldn't say that but you can make a fair assumption that this was the case.

In the end we don't and won't know the true reason(s). Like I said it could have been for substantially more money or mainly for personal reasons.
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Mudderfudder77 wrote:
topwop1 wrote:
Sugashane wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuggghhhhh. Been a fan of Hurtt's since he was a bagman for Charlie Strong at Louisville. Was hoping he'd follow Charlie to Texas - but was absolutely thrilled when the Bears offered and he accepted.

Can't believe we let this guy get away. Honestly this is the kind of mistake that [inappropriate/removed] FO/Coaching staff's make. You have to find a way to keep bright young coaches like Hurtt on staff.


Sounded like we tried to keep him, but he declined. Can't force him to sign again. It does suck though.


Ya exactly. Not really much the Bears could have done besides maybe offered more money, but if his heart was somewhere else then what can you really do?



The problem is that we didn't have an environment (coaches, FO, contract) that made Hurtt want to stay. This was his first pro gig - and seemingly he couldn't wait to get out of here.

Hurtt is a bright young coach with a tremendous amount of potential - these are the types of guys we need to do everything we can to hang on to - and the fact that Fox/Pace couldn't speaks poorly to their abilities as administrators.


That is fair. I personally feel Hurtt probably had personal reasons that, outside of gross overpayment, made it near impossible to retain. Maybe it ed to be closer to home, maybe he is more of a blitz heavy scheme, so he wanted to learn under Bowles for that (as Fangio does not blitz a lot), idk. Job security our finances were probably nonfactors.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully it's just a small inconvenience, even that dude is built like a mack truck Laughing
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