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Perfundle


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pigsooie5 wrote:
Seems the only chance this guy has at revitalizing his career is to surround himself with the right players and coaches. Chicago would be a great opportunity for him, Marshall would be the perfect mentor. It only helps they grew up 20 miles from each other in PA... I too, was a pretty big Baldwin fan coming out of Pitt, he still has time, but its quickly dwindling.


He couldn't succeed in SF when Boldin was the only option at WR. Literally, we ran A LOT of 1 WR sets. It sucked... Anyway, I hope he can turn it around, he wasn't BAD, he just wasn't good. Never got on the field, never got looks... Maybe he could go somewhere like Carolina, New England, or Chicago and find decent success. But it just hasn't clicked for him

Somebody who caught 3 passes all season on 9 targets for a gaudy 3.1 yards-per-target average on a talent-starved receiving core wasn't bad? I'd like to know what your definition of bad is then.
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He didnt get a lot of looks or catches when we were bare at WR with Crabtree, Patton, etc out and it was basically just Boldin left. That was his chance to shine but now that we have Crabtree and Patton back, drafted Ellington, added Stevie Johnson and Brandon Lloyd there just isn't room for him. We are so stacked at WR we might need to keep 7 (including ST ace Osgood).

If you're so stacked at wide receiver you should be keeping fewer, not more; there are plenty of areas on the team that need more depth than the receiving core, especially with the Niners being such a run-heavy team, not to mention Davis being one of the best receiving tight ends in the game.

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If we keep 6 we will be cutting Lloyd who has been impressing everyone or cutting a ST ace in Osgood. And that's if we don't include Chuck Jacobs who impressed in pre season last year and then Devon Wylie who could make some teams in this league for ST/returner/WR.

I would have thought Patton and Osgood would be on the chopping block before Lloyd.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baldwin's the definition of a bust, thought he'd be much better than what he's been.
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Still a high ceiling. He'll get picked up by some WR desperate teams.


Cleveland?

No, seriously, I don't think his ceiling is very high at all, in fact, I think at this point it has already collapsed on top of him. He hasn't shown the ability to play worthy of a roster spot, literally. I don't even think he's an upgrade for Cleveland.
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wwhickok wrote:
FootballProdiG wrote:
Still a high ceiling. He'll get picked up by some WR desperate teams.


Cleveland?

No, seriously, I don't think his ceiling is very high at all, in fact, I think at this point it has already collapsed on top of him. He hasn't shown the ability to play worthy of a roster spot, literally. I don't even think he's an upgrade for Cleveland.



Cleveland, Panthers, Packers injury prone WR core, a few more teams. I'm not saying he's going to come in and take anyone's starting spot. But I wouldn't mind putting him in a WR4-5 role as long as he comes in and shows he's willing to turn it around. Could see him having a decent season if given a lot of opportunity with the right team, he just doesn't need responsibility. I think being drafted in the first round went to his head, and this experience is going to be humbling to him. He's not on drugs like of the other first round WR's out there. Work ethic is usually related to team chemistry and coaching.
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FootballProdiG wrote:
wwhickok wrote:
FootballProdiG wrote:
Still a high ceiling. He'll get picked up by some WR desperate teams.


Cleveland?

No, seriously, I don't think his ceiling is very high at all, in fact, I think at this point it has already collapsed on top of him. He hasn't shown the ability to play worthy of a roster spot, literally. I don't even think he's an upgrade for Cleveland.



Cleveland, Panthers, Packers injury prone WR core, a few more teams. I'm not saying he's going to come in and take anyone's starting spot. But I wouldn't mind putting him in a WR4-5 role as long as he comes in and shows he's willing to turn it around. Could see him having a decent season if given a lot of opportunity with the right team, he just doesn't need responsibility. I think being drafted in the first round went to his head, and this experience is going to be humbling to him. He's not on drugs like of the other first round WR's out there. Work ethic is usually related to team chemistry and coaching.


He went to a WR starved team with a lot of chemistry, great success and great coaching -- and he still couldn't get on the field. He was even just cut from that same team despite having 90 roster spaces at this point in time. He's a bum. I was high on him coming out, thought his work ethic issues would change, but he's been a bust on two teams looking for WR help and it's not even like he just struggled -- he was complete garbage all around.
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sad that this much talent will likely only be known for a play that didn't count:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evLL0SI2qWw
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like the lions claimed him


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“@Schottey: Detroit Lions have claimed WR Jon Baldwin”

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49erurtaza wrote:
looks like the lions claimed him


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CalhounLambeau wrote:
Coming out it was "No work ethic, egotistical, doesn't get it."

Not surprised.


The red flags were definitely there coming out of college. He'll just bounce from team to team hoping to catch on.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

***Update***
He was claimed by the Lions.
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So Chiefs win this trade?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No risk move for the Lions. I like it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never liked him coming out. Wanted him to succeed for the sake of Pitt, but just did not see it. He has the body and athleticism you want out of an elite receiver, but he just doesn't have the effort it seems. He gets lazy on passes that he should be attacking and does not have near the on-field speed that his timed speed would suggest.
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Chiefer wrote:
So Chiefs win this trade?


Not sure having AJ Jenkins on your team is much of a win as just getting rid of Baldwin
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