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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kluwe: “Players who get caught smoking weed or DUI get [a suspension of] four games.... The NFL is a league where you can get redemption for killing someone, for beating your wife in an elevator, for driving drunk, for a whole variety of things...."


The NFL is suspending Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice two games under the personal conduct policy for an altercation that left his then-fiancee (now wife) unconscious in an Atlantic City casino elevator in February.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/ravens/2014/07/24/ray-rice-suspension-baltimore-janay-palmer/12783281/


so Ray Rice was suspended two games for an act of physical violence with a real victim, and Priefer was suspended for three games for a verbal insult(s).

does Kluwe really feel Priefer's suspension was too light?



Kluwe's quote was saying that the NFL will welcome you back with open arms if you smoke dope or beat your wife, but if you advocate for gay rights, you may not be that fortunate. He may be correct in that assessment, as neither he nor Brendan Ayenbedejo are in the league this year. Could be a coincidence since both are aging players with bigger salaries. Kluwe wasn't talking about Priefer's suspension when he made that quote; at least not to my knowledge. Whether Kluwe is right or wrong in that assessment, comparing Rice's suspension to that of Priefer's is apples to oranges. Priefer's conduct happened in the workplace.

Personally, I don't believe that you should be suspended for things that take place outside of the performance of your duties as an NFL player or coach. If you take PED's, you should be suspended because that undermines the integrity of the actual games. If you get a DUI, beat your wife, or break some other law, then the legal system is there to deal with it.

If you get a DUI on company time, or in a company vehicle, that's a different story. If you harass someone at the workplace, that too is a different story and the employer should mete out discipline. So if you're asking me if Rice should be suspended more games than Priefer, I say no. Rice should get jail time. The reason the NFL suspends players for DUIs and wife beating is because it makes the league look bad, not because they actually frown on the behavior.

If you are going to suspend players for their conduct on their own time that has no bearing on their ability to do their job, then I believe that Rice's suspension is a joke. If you suspend a player four games for smoking weed, two games for knocking out your wife seems a bit ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wcblack34 wrote:


Could be a coincidence since both are aging players with bigger salaries.



It is. Ayanbadejo is 37 years old and was never that good to begin with.
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wcblack34 wrote:


Could be a coincidence since both are aging players with bigger salaries.



It is. Ayanbadejo is 37 years old and was never that good to begin with.


Three time Pro Bowler and two time All Pro. Granted it was for Special Teams, but to say he was never that good is a stretch. He was still a Special Teams standout for the Ravens, even at his age. Still, there is a definite case to be made that paying the veteran's minimum to a 37 year old player who would primarily be a Special Teamer is probably not the best use of team resources. Same goes for Kluwe.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always preferred Oba-watcha-hooie (or whatever it was we used to call him) over Brendan. Laughing

Also, while not unexpected, it appears that the assistant ST coach will take over while Priefer is out...no bringing in the elder Priefer (Mike's dad, Chuck), who was a long-time ST coach with SD and Detroit.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

disaacs wrote:
I always preferred Oba-watcha-hooie (or whatever it was we used to call him) over Brendan. Laughing

Also, while not unexpected, it appears that the assistant ST coach will take over while Priefer is out...no bringing in the elder Priefer (Mike's dad, Chuck), who was a long-time ST coach with SD and Detroit.


I remember Itchybumpo

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=54619&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Looks like a grammar error from VD in the opening post Shocked
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I remember him too...unfortunately Obafemi was before our time here on this site, otherwise someone certainly would have come up with a clever name.
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The Vikings retained T. Wells as a lawyer. They're bringing in the big guns.
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The Vikings have brought in prominent criminal attorney Ted Wells, who worked with the NFL on the Miami Dolphins’ bullying case, to assist with settlement talks involving the Chris Kluwe investigation.

The Vikings announced on Tuesday that Wells has been retained along with Roberta Kaplan. The Pioneer Press first had reported the news on Wells.


http://blogs.twincities.com/vikings/2014/07/29/source-says-vikings-bring-in-prominent-criminal-attorney-ted-wells-to-work-on-chris-kluwe-case/

Yeah. Interesting how much money they are spending on this.

Looks like Kluwe's attorney may have asked him to go with the "no comment" strategy. Must be getting serious too.

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Kluwe declined comment on the retaining of Wells and Kaplan.
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Roberta Kaplan as well.
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Halunen: “What are [the Vikings] hiding? Clearly, [Wells and Kaplan] are only being retained to try to further prevent this report from being released. They can do what they want. This is all about manuevering, it's very suspicious. We want the full report to be released. We have made it very clear that that’s an absolute. The only reason I can think of that they bring them in is trying to prevent that from happening.”

Kluwe declined comment on the retaining of Wells and Kaplan. The sides will meet Aug. 6 for settlement talks.

http://blogs.twincities.com/vikings/2014/07/29/source-says-vikings-bring-in-prominent-criminal-attorney-ted-wells-to-work-on-chris-kluwe-case/
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That's probably the first time Kluwe has ever declined to comment on anything. Ba-dum-dum.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

most of Kluwe's choice comments come from via social media anyway. we'll see what he has to say when he's up late at nights...
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Special teams coordinator Mike Priefer is suspended for the first three games of the regular season, with the possibility of getting that trimmed to two games at the team's discretion. The Vikings have been discussing Priefer's replacement, which will be needed during the suspension as he won't be allowed at team facilities. One option is assistant special teams coach Ryan Ficken, who enters his second year under Priefer and his eighth with the Vikings. Spielman also said Thursday the team is looking at a possible outside, interim hire.

Priefer: "Ryan has been integrated in from day one. I'm going to probably let him make more decisions in the preseason games. I still don't know what we are going to do, that's up to coach Zimmer and Rick Spielman."

Zimmer: "I talked to Rick about it [Sunday night]. I think it's pretty close, but we will wait a few days until we announce it."

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Notebook_Teddy_Bridgewater_on_target_during_practice_under_the_lights072814
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They really brought the big guns to the game. It seems like they dare Kluwe to file a lawsuit.

Via Ben Goessling on Twitter:

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Kaplan ctd: "While there can be no question that Ted and I are sensitive to issues of diversity and inclusion, here, there is no evidence…"


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Kaplan ctd. “to suggest that Mr. Kluwe was released from the Vikings for any reason other than his skills as a punter…"


More: https://twitter.com/GoesslingESPN
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Roberta Kaplan: "Ted Wells and I have reviewed the investigative findings and firmly believe that the Vikings have worked incredibly hard to achieve an environment of tolerance within the team and organization. While there can be no question that Ted and I are sensitive to issues of diversity and inclusion, here, there is no evidence to suggest that Mr. Kluwe was released from the Vikings for any reason other than his skills as a punter. There also was no effort to unfairly discourage his activism while he was a member of the Vikings; to the contrary, it was encouraged by the owners of the Vikings. While our hope is to take a fresh look and assist the Vikings in reaching a resolution with Mr. Kluwe short of litigation, if that is not possible, we will fully defend the Vikings in court."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/vikings/2014/07/29/minnesota-chris-kluwe-mike-priefer-ted-wells/13326097/
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