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holeman1


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:22 pm    Post subject: FFMD II offical Arizona Cardinals Mock Draft Reply with quote

hey guys, FFMD II just finished up for the Cardinals, tell us how you think, Grades from me and Titan0021 (the creator of FFMDII) are included.

in the 1st round, 20th overall, the Cardinals Select... Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan:
this pick is not my favorite but it is a interesting pick, the signing of Jared Veldheer counted in FFMD II, so i thought that between him manning LT and the three way battle for who will man the right tackle, im pretty sure we would be solid there, however as unit we voted to pick up Lewan. what Lewan will provide is quality talent for right tackle position and in case Veldheer goes down we wont have to rely on Sowell to be our savior there, Lewan is definitely one of the most physically gifted guys in the draft, and will provide starter quality wherever he is lined up.
Holeman1's Grade: B-
Titan0021's Grade: B


in the 2nd round, 52nd overall, the Cardinals Select... Jeremy Attaochu, OLB, Georiga Tech
Georgia Tech's all-time sack leader is now a Cardinal. Attaochu is definitely not the most physically gifted man in the draft, the fact is that he succeeds by having the intelligence and experience to get to the opponent's QB, while this guy does not have any normal experience at OLB, he will fit nicely there as his intelligence is key to being a versatile OLB. personally to me though, we really don't have much of a need at OLB, we have a ageing Abraham, sure, but behind that we have Acho, Okafor and Shaughnessy, which is not bad at all considering that they are really good players and we also have Alexander which has temporarily moved to ILB, either way though, he will solidify the depth there no matter what happens.
Holeman1's Grade: B-
Titan0021's Grade: B


in the 3rd round, 84th overall, the Cardinals Select... C.J. Feidowicz, TE, Iowa
not only does this guy fill a need, but he does it by fitting with our system AND having quality talent. Fied fits our TE system perfectly, he is a block first Tight And and he was at the point where he was run-blocking better than some of Iowa's lineman. leaving collage behind, this guy is big and more athletic than one would think, and had a impressive showing at the combine. Fied would add extra depth and extra stability to our TE core both with or without a Rob Housler trade, which was very close to happening (the Vikings though about it for a bit).
Holeman1's Grade: A-
Titan0021's Grade: B+


in the 4th round, 120th overall, the Cardinals Select... Ahmad Dixon, S, Baylor
one of my favorite Safeties fell to the 4th round? i call this pick a steal. Dixon has a very nice skillset, with the Ability to cover bigger targets while still being a stud in run defense. Dixon has been a thumper at Baylor, picking up missed ground tackles very well and has the ability to clean up the mess, and while he sometimes tries to go for the hard hits, or INT over PD, he still has very nice traits to him and i can see him fitting as a SS and competing with Jefferson at the spot. with Mathieu returning sometime this year we one have one real hole in our secondary, SS, we need a guy that get tackles on the ground very well (like with Bell) yet still have the ability to cover bigger receivers and Tight Ends (Unlike Bell), and i feel as if Dixon has both parts to his game.
Holeman1's Grade: A
Titan0021's Grade: B-


in the 5th round, 160th overall, the Cardinals Select... Aaron Lynch, DE, South Florida
This is the classic tale of a high-risk-high-reward guy. rewind to 2011, and this guy and Jadveon Clowney were literally in the same boat, they were expected to become the next great Defensive Ends together, flash forward to 2013 and this guy has a possibility of going undrafted... why? long story short, he got homesick and decided to transfer to South Florida where he basically earned his way to become a nobody. this 6'5" Defensive End has the freakish athleticism to become a great player, he just has to have better intangibles and become more consistent, and learning from Dockett and Campbell could be a way to revive his efforts at ever re-becoming a great player. our Defensive End situation is solid for now, but Dockett is getting old and is starting to diminish slowly, if Lynch can revive his career than there is a good chance we can make a seamless transition.
Holeman1's Grade: B
Titan0021's Grade: Unknown


in the 6th round, 196th overall, the Cardinals select... Kenny Shaw, WR, Florida State
with this pick, we make a U-turn from high risk/reward to low risk. Shaw is definitely a sleeper looking at his stats, but you have to remember that FSU had a amazing offense, so its not like he was a standout. this 6' WR has some nice talent, both his speed and receiving ability leads to a nice upside, however, like i said, he is not really a standout. he will add extra depth to our receiving group and possibly break our roster as a slot receiver, because after Roberts left, you cant expect a kick returner which is prone to injuries to take the job as his own (Ted Ginn), and that is obviously were Shaw could come in and be that extra contributor.
Holeman1's Grade: C+
Titan0021's Grade: Unknown


What we accomplished:
- solidifying our Offensive line
- adding quality depth and stability to our OLB core
- adding quality depth and stability to our TE core
- adding a contender for the SS spot/ adding quality Depth to the our S core
- adding a future contender for the DE spot
- adding depth and stability to our WR core

What we failed to Accomplish
- Adding a QB for the future
- Adding Depth to the ILB position
- Adding a future contender for the #2 CB spot

overall grade: B (good draft, A's are only for amazing drafts, we solved most needs using players that fit in our system)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice write up, holeman.

I like the Lewan pick. There were 3 RT's taken in the top 5 in last years draft. Big picture those 3 are probably LT's but they all started out at RT in their rookie years. Lewan will solidify that RT spot and by the time his second contract comes around we may be replacing Veldheer with Lewan at LT.

I really like Calvin Pryor and also think he's a great pick in round 1. But he doesn't seem to be liked by the Cards board. Dude is a missile and a playmaker.

Attaochu actually played standing up for the majority of his Jr year. He definitely has experience playing LB. I was much higher on him in the beginning of the draft process but he is beginning to remind me of Dontay Moch.

Ahmad Dixon is a hard hitting safety but he will get burnt all game long in pass coverage. Way too stiff. Had the worst 3 cone time of all safeties.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtdowner wrote:
Ahmad Dixon is a hard hitting safety but he will get burnt all game long in pass coverage. Way too stiff. Had the worst 3 cone time of all safeties.


Thing about that is if you look at our safeties they were rotational and each played a specific role, Dixon can fill the Bell role perfectly.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckyNumber11 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
Ahmad Dixon is a hard hitting safety but he will get burnt all game long in pass coverage. Way too stiff. Had the worst 3 cone time of all safeties.


Thing about that is if you look at our safeties they were rotational and each played a specific role, Dixon can fill the Bell role perfectly.


Bell was the worst player on our defense last year and a major liability in pass coverage. I don't want to bring in another Bell I want to upgrade Bell.

I will admit that Bell made a nice impact in stopping the run.

EDIT: And Bell was on the field for more than 1,000 snaps. He wasn't coming off the field too often.

And Dixon had the worst 7 cone of all the ILBs, OLBs, and CBs too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtdowner wrote:
LuckyNumber11 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
Ahmad Dixon is a hard hitting safety but he will get burnt all game long in pass coverage. Way too stiff. Had the worst 3 cone time of all safeties.


Thing about that is if you look at our safeties they were rotational and each played a specific role, Dixon can fill the Bell role perfectly.


Bell was the worst player on our defense last year and a major liability in pass coverage. I don't want to bring in another Bell I want to upgrade Bell.

I will admit that Bell made a nice impact in stopping the run.

EDIT: And Bell was on the field for more than 1,000 snaps. He wasn't coming off the field too often.

And Dixon had the worst 7 cone of all the ILBs, OLBs, and CBs too.


First off I never put a whole lot of weight on the combine. There's always the potential that the guy was just having a really [inappropriate/removed] day. I mean all I'm trying to say really is that he's going to at the very least as effective as Bell because he was effective in stopping the run. Like I said though, as the GM of this ship, I would plan on a rotation of safeties between Jefferson, Dixon, Johnson, Mathieu (Who will play corner as well) then possibly even another addition if FFMD II were to continue
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckyNumber11 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
LuckyNumber11 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
Ahmad Dixon is a hard hitting safety but he will get burnt all game long in pass coverage. Way too stiff. Had the worst 3 cone time of all safeties.


Thing about that is if you look at our safeties they were rotational and each played a specific role, Dixon can fill the Bell role perfectly.


Bell was the worst player on our defense last year and a major liability in pass coverage. I don't want to bring in another Bell I want to upgrade Bell.

I will admit that Bell made a nice impact in stopping the run.

EDIT: And Bell was on the field for more than 1,000 snaps. He wasn't coming off the field too often.

And Dixon had the worst 7 cone of all the ILBs, OLBs, and CBs too.


First off I never put a whole lot of weight on the combine. There's always the potential that the guy was just having a really [inappropriate/removed] day. I mean all I'm trying to say really is that he's going to at the very least as effective as Bell because he was effective in stopping the run. Like I said though, as the GM of this ship, I would plan on a rotation of safeties between Jefferson, Dixon, Johnson, Mathieu (Who will play corner as well) then possibly even another addition if FFMD II were to continue


You're absolutely right about the Combine and I agree. But stiff tape plus stiff combine numbers make it hard to come to a conclusion other than the guy is stiff.

In the 4th round it's not a bad pick. But Dixon's game has some major deficiencies. So you're relying on a UDFA (a very nice one though) and a 4th rounder with major coverage issues to man the SS spot.

Other than Calvin Pryor there's not a safety in this class I'm confident will be an impact every-down starter. You did the best you could to fill that void with what was available. But that's why I like Pryor so much because he's great in run support, underrated in pass coverage, and is a playmaker. He wound never have to come off the field.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtdowner wrote:
LuckyNumber11 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
LuckyNumber11 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
Ahmad Dixon is a hard hitting safety but he will get burnt all game long in pass coverage. Way too stiff. Had the worst 3 cone time of all safeties.


Thing about that is if you look at our safeties they were rotational and each played a specific role, Dixon can fill the Bell role perfectly.


Bell was the worst player on our defense last year and a major liability in pass coverage. I don't want to bring in another Bell I want to upgrade Bell.

I will admit that Bell made a nice impact in stopping the run.

EDIT: And Bell was on the field for more than 1,000 snaps. He wasn't coming off the field too often.

And Dixon had the worst 7 cone of all the ILBs, OLBs, and CBs too.


First off I never put a whole lot of weight on the combine. There's always the potential that the guy was just having a really [inappropriate/removed] day. I mean all I'm trying to say really is that he's going to at the very least as effective as Bell because he was effective in stopping the run. Like I said though, as the GM of this ship, I would plan on a rotation of safeties between Jefferson, Dixon, Johnson, Mathieu (Who will play corner as well) then possibly even another addition if FFMD II were to continue


You're absolutely right about the Combine and I agree. But stiff tape plus stiff combine numbers make it hard to come to a conclusion other than the guy is stiff.

In the 4th round it's not a bad pick. But Dixon's game has some major deficiencies. So you're relying on a UDFA (a very nice one though) and a 4th rounder with major coverage issues to man the SS spot.

Other than Calvin Pryor there's not a safety in this class I'm confident will be an impact every-down starter. You did the best you could to fill that void with what was available. But that's why I like Pryor so much because he's great in run support, underrated in pass coverage, and is a playmaker. He wound never have to come off the field.


I can agree with the assessment on Dixon. He's stiff but I don't think we'd be asking him to do too much right off the bat.

Thing about Pryor is is that I think he can be good in pass coverage, but it's going to have to be developed he has some pretty raw coverage skills. He's a heavy hitter and a great technician as far as tackling goes I'm just not convinced that he'd be able to step up against tight ends like Cook in St Louis or Davis in San Fran and be too successful his rookie season. I think he's definitely a project as far coverage skills go
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poloc was kind enough to give us his 2 cents on our draft....

Poloc2289 wrote:
LuckyNumber11 wrote:
Cardinals

1.20 Taylor Lewan
2.52. Jeremiah Attaochu
3.84 C.J. Fiedorowicz
4.120 Ahmad Dixon
5.160 Aaron Lynch, DE
6.196 Kenny Shaw


Without even looking at where these guys went, I really like it. Great job of taking what the draft had given you by the Cardinals.

Lewan at 20 is an absolute steal and that's coming from someone who isn't even a big Lewan fan. I think at worst he'll have a Lane Johnson like impact his first year. That's pretty damn good for pick #20. I know it must've hurt the Cardinal's FO to pick another O-lineman in the 1st round but this one should not disappoint.

Attaochu is someone I think is overrated in the media and on these boards. However you got him where he deserves to go so kudos to that. I know as the Eagles GM he was discussed at 22 and of course strongly considered at 56 had he made it there. Just great value for a skill player that should carve out a role as a pass rush specialist.

C.J. is someone I worry about. He's skilled no doubt. His value is right about where it should be so I can't fault you on selecting him here (maybe just a tadearly). But I worry about reports of C.J. being lazy and unmotivated. He was replaced by Ray Hamilton for a game his senior year. That raises red flags for me. Good player but does he have the motivation to be great? I like his fit in Arizona though because he can sit behind Rob Housler and John Carlson, two consummate pros. Hopefully he can then develop into a pretty good TE.

Ahmad Dixon is someone I personally love. Everytime I would watch Baylor he jumped out to me almost immediately. There are things he has to work on like on the field decision making and coverage skills but in the 4th your getting a player who I think at the very least can play in the box his rookie year.

Lynch is a guy I wouldn't touch with a 12 foot pole. I think you got good value in the 5th in terms of other team's possessing him but in terms of his value in the NFL, I think he's an UDFA. His attitude and slip in production after going to USF scares the hell out of me. I don't know that he wants to get better and I don't know that he has the talent right now to produce anyway.

Kenny Shaw is a guy I like but I think he was taken too early here. With guys like Matt Hazel, Ryan Grant and I think Michael Campanaro was still available, the value just wasn't there. I think all those guys are more talented and have better upside than Shaw coming into the NFL.

I very much liked the early moves by the Cardinals. I was very much indifferent on the later moves. For that reason I gotta give this an uncertain B/B+ grade

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