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andjordand


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:23 pm    Post subject: Bad boys 30 for 30 Reply with quote

This team was so boss. This 30/30 episode makes me wish I had a time machine or at least a fountain of youth to watch them play 1 more time.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watching it right now.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

back when basketball was physical
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya that was a great watch.

Isiah gets overlooked because of the era he came up in.

Pound for pound one of the best ever to play the game.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a football team did much of what they did, wouldn't they be labeled as classless and said that they lack discipline?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
If a football team did much of what they did, wouldn't they be labeled as classless and said that they lack discipline?


They did what it took for them to win games.

We do what it takes for us to lose games.

They may have been reckless, but they were able to come together when it counted the most.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detroitroar wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
If a football team did much of what they did, wouldn't they be labeled as classless and said that they lack discipline?


They did what it took for them to win games.

We do what it takes for us to lose games.

They may have been reckless, but they were able to come together when it counted the most.

So you feel that undisciplined play is acceptable if the team wins?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detroitroar wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
If a football team did much of what they did, wouldn't they be labeled as classless and said that they lack discipline?


They did what it took for them to win games.

We do what it takes for us to lose games.

They may have been reckless, but they were able to come together when it counted the most.

So you feel that undisciplined play is acceptable if the team wins?


Are you saying the bad boys where undisciplined? There style was by design.

And yes to your question( although not to me) of course undisciplined play is acceptable if your winning. I don't care if Fairly sets a record for offside penaltys if he gets 20 sacks and we win the Super Bowl. If mistakes are backed up by good play that ultimately results in victory how would that not be acceptable.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when bball was fun to watch
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigc421 wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detroitroar wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
If a football team did much of what they did, wouldn't they be labeled as classless and said that they lack discipline?


They did what it took for them to win games.

We do what it takes for us to lose games.

They may have been reckless, but they were able to come together when it counted the most.

So you feel that undisciplined play is acceptable if the team wins?


Are you saying the bad boys where undisciplined? There style was by design.

And yes to your question( although not to me) of course undisciplined play is acceptable if your winning. I don't care if Fairly sets a record for offside penaltys if he gets 20 sacks and we win the Super Bowl. If mistakes are backed up by good play that ultimately results in victory how would that not be acceptable.

Not everything they did was "by design". Some of their actions were clearly excessive. (I have nothing against them.)

I tend to agree with roar, but I have the impression that many here do not.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detroitroar wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
If a football team did much of what they did, wouldn't they be labeled as classless and said that they lack discipline?


They did what it took for them to win games.

We do what it takes for us to lose games.

They may have been reckless, but they were able to come together when it counted the most.

So you feel that undisciplined play is acceptable if the team wins?


Whatever it takes to win.

And Im not so sure I would call what they did undisciplined.

The word that comes to mind for me is competitive.

Regardless, Im good with anything outside of cheating to win games.

I could give a rats [inappropriate/removed] about other teams feelings.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

detroitroar wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detroitroar wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
If a football team did much of what they did, wouldn't they be labeled as classless and said that they lack discipline?


They did what it took for them to win games.

We do what it takes for us to lose games.

They may have been reckless, but they were able to come together when it counted the most.

So you feel that undisciplined play is acceptable if the team wins?


Whatever it takes to win.

And Im not so sure I would call what they did undisciplined.

The word that comes to mind for me is competitive.

Regardless, Im good with anything outside of cheating to win games.

I could give a rats [inappropriate/removed] about other teams feelings.

Shoving players after the play isn't undisciplined? Come on now. There were definitely things they did that are considered undisciplined... they just were successful enough to compensate.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the biggest difference is that the Pistons embraced it.

Lions sort of shy'd away from being dirty even though they where, and it made them look like frauds... even as tough guys. Not to mention a lot of there problems came from our head coach too not just the Suh stomp.

Would of been nice if Suh said, " yeah I stomped him, grubby linemen kept grabbing me all game so I let him know I didn't like it. "

Or something along those lines. Instead of saying he didn't kick, didn't mean it, was sorry, etc, etc, etc. I'd of been ok if he wasn't sorry, made a nasty comment and really got things rolling between G.B. and us.

But again, it was our COACH who mostly made us look like immature fake tough guys when he ran down Harbaugh basically challenged him and was shown up in the middle of the field, on t.v. for EVERYONE to see. I can honestly say I haven't like Schwartz sense this incident because it really did show a lot about him imo.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jrugges wrote:
I think the biggest difference is that the Pistons embraced it.

Lions sort of shy'd away from being dirty even though they where, and it made them look like frauds... even as tough guys. Not to mention a lot of there problems came from our head coach too not just the Suh stomp.

Would of been nice if Suh said, " yeah I stomped him, grubby linemen kept grabbing me all game so I let him know I didn't like it. "

Or something along those lines. Instead of saying he didn't kick, didn't mean it, was sorry, etc, etc, etc. I'd of been ok if he wasn't sorry, made a nasty comment and really got things rolling between G.B. and us.

But again, it was our COACH who mostly made us look like immature fake tough guys when he ran down Harbaugh basically challenged him and was shown up in the middle of the field, on t.v. for EVERYONE to see. I can honestly say I haven't like Schwartz sense this incident because it really did show a lot about him imo.


Interesting angle. Had the Lions embraced the undisciplined, dirty tag, it would have been better for the team's perception?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see yet another thread turned into garbage. The Bad Boys were simply on another level and at their ERA that style of play was embraced by many teams.

Trying to compare it to modern day football which is what TL is reaching and hoping to prove some point even if pointless attempt

Today the Bad Boys would not have been embraced either.
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