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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:33 pm    Post subject: Report: Saints on hand for Jace Amaro Pro-Day… Reply with quote

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Representatives from 20 NFL teams — including New York Jets general manager John Idzik, two members of the Green Bay Packers, and tight end coaches from the New Orleans Saints and New York Giants — were present for Texas Tech’s pro day on Friday.




Not that it means anything, but it got me thinking… with Jimmy Graham and his representatives having yet to file a grievance on the tight end, ugh… football players behalf. How would you feel as a Saints fan if the following occurred…

What if, (hypothetically) the reason that Graham has yet to file a grievance is not that he and the Saints are close to a deal but instead are close to agreeing to trade the all-pro to another team for a bevy of draft picks and it’s this mystery team that Graham and his agents are in fact negotiating with currently.

Wild idea I know but say the Saints are willing to accept less than two 1st round picks and put the word out as such. Say an offer of a 2014 1st and 2015 2nd & 4th… would teams bite???

If the Saints determine that while a great offensive weapon, Graham’s price tag is far to steep for a one dimensional player and that drafting Jace Amaro with the 27th pick is better value long-term would you agree???

Without extending Graham long-term, the Saints could likely resign De La Puente and Strief keeping their offensive line intact and if they are able to land an additional 1st round selection this year they would be in position with the 27th pick to draft a player like Amaro, Notre Dame’s Troy Niklas or Washington’s Austin Seferian-Jenkins giving the Saints a more rounded player at the position as they begin to transition their offensive philosophy to a more physical ground attack as they are rumored to be doing.


Just a thought… what do you think?

Would you be opposed to moving him for less than two #1’s?



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd prefer the two 1sts, but I'd be onboard for moving him for the right price. I love Jimmy, but this past season showed that Drew needs to spread his focus around. He relies far too heavily on Jimmy and I see the Saints approaching more of a gound /clock control offense next season anyway. I'd pull the trigger.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

navysaintsfan wrote:
I'd prefer the two 1sts, but I'd be onboard for moving him for the right price. I love Jimmy, but this past season showed that Drew needs to spread his focus around. He relies far too heavily on Jimmy and I see the Saints approaching more of a gound /clock control offense next season anyway. I'd pull the trigger.


Eventually I see a deal getting struck between the Saints and Jimmy but if I had it my way... you and I are thinking alike on this on Navyman!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Browns fan here...

I posted a question in the Browns forum regarding trading for Jimmy Graham.

Would the Saints fanbase react favorably to this trade?

Jimmy Graham - to Cleveland

Jordan Cameron + 1st Round pick #26 - to New Orleans

In this scenario each guy would have to agree to an extension.

The Browns have a ton of cap space. I could see offering Graham the following deal.

5 years - 55 million.
15 million dollar signing bonus.
30 million guaranteed.

Jordan Cameron is a similar player to Graham (obviously not quite as good yet)

The Saints are very creative with the cap.

A deal for Cameron would have to be similar to what Dennis Pitta received.

5 years - 32 million
11 million signing bonus
16 million guaranteed

Would you guys have any interest in this type of scenario?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Browns1980town wrote:
Browns fan here...

I posted a question in the Browns forum regarding trading for Jimmy Graham.

Would the Saints fanbase react favorably to this trade?

Jimmy Graham - to Cleveland

Jordan Cameron + 1st Round pick #26 - to New Orleans

In this scenario each guy would have to agree to an extension.

The Browns have a ton of cap space. I could see offering Graham the following deal.

5 years - 55 million.
15 million dollar signing bonus.
30 million guaranteed.

Jordan Cameron is a similar player to Graham (obviously not quite as good yet)

The Saints are very creative with the cap.

A deal for Cameron would have to be similar to what Dennis Pitta received.

5 years - 32 million
11 million signing bonus
16 million guaranteed

Would you guys have any interest in this type of scenario?


I would probably want your earlier 1st. Jimmy Graham is a significant upgrade to Cameron. And though Cameron looked pretty good the first half of the season...he really fell off the second half. Which Jordan Cameron would the Saints be getting? Meanwhile...I am pretty certain I know what Jimmy Graham is by this point.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say go for it, lol. Then we'd have Jordan Cameron and Cameron Jordan. WHO DAT BIZNITCHES!! Laughing Rolling Eyes Laughing Surprised Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't do Cameron and a 1st. Cameron, 1st and 2nd and I'd maybe think about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harper41 wrote:
I wouldn't do Cameron and a 1st. Cameron, 1st and 2nd and I'd maybe think about it.


I agree with Harp here... It would have to be Cameron and either your 1st, 1st rounder (4) or Cameron and your second 1st (26) and your 2nd round pick.

I'd do either of those deals...

Cameron and a top 5 pick or Cameron and pick 26 & your 2nd rounder.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with Harp here... It would have to be Cameron and either your 1st, 1st rounder (4) or Cameron and your second 1st (26) and your 2nd round pick.

I'd do either of those deals...

Cameron and a top 5 pick or Cameron and pick 26 & your 2nd rounder.


Thanks for the replies.

It is interesting to hear people's value for players.

I wouldn't consider trading a top 5 pick for anyone other than a QB. In my opinion there are only a handful of players worth that much.

Graham is great - but he is not worth a top 5 pick by itself.

If the Saints weren't interested in Cameron I would consider a first and a third round pick. Specifically pick 26 and our earlier third round pick. I think the Revis trade established the "market value" for elite talent. I think Tampa overpaid.

Once again - thanks for the replies.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Browns1980town wrote:
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I agree with Harp here... It would have to be Cameron and either your 1st, 1st rounder (4) or Cameron and your second 1st (26) and your 2nd round pick.

I'd do either of those deals...

Cameron and a top 5 pick or Cameron and pick 26 & your 2nd rounder.


Thanks for the replies.

It is interesting to hear people's value for players.

I wouldn't consider trading a top 5 pick for anyone other than a QB. In my opinion there are only a handful of players worth that much.

Graham is great - but he is not worth a top 5 pick by itself.

If the Saints weren't interested in Cameron I would consider a first and a third round pick. Specifically pick 26 and our earlier third round pick. I think the Revis trade established the "market value" for elite talent. I think Tampa overpaid.

Once again - thanks for the replies.

Revis was also coming off a torn ACL.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would accept that Browns trade, but only after I knew I couldn't negotiate anything more.

adding a first round pick and saving about 5 mil per. There is a dropoff from Graham to Cameron, but even considering that, that trade offers good value. Plus Cameron is almost assuredly a better blocker.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fray32 wrote:
I would accept that Browns trade, but only after I knew I couldn't negotiate anything more.

adding a first round pick and saving about 5 mil per. There is a dropoff from Graham to Cameron, but even considering that, that trade offers good value. Plus Cameron is almost assuredly a better blocker.


Yea, why is everyone backing off on this deal? Jimmy Graham is going to cost a lot more than Cameron is, and Brees/Payton will make Cameron produce.

Obviously if we can get more, we want to, but that's a pretty fair trade. I'd definitely like that extra first round pick...which we could use to upgrade another part of the offense.

Hypothetical obviously, but would you rather have Jimmy Graham alone or Jordan Cameron and Odell Beckham Jr.?

I'd take the second deal, personally.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't even consider Beckam Jr. in the 1st, so give me the first deal.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be okay with Cameron +1st (26) and early 3rd.

I think Cameron could definitely produce in the Saints offense and fill Graham's shoes. Besides that, the confusion over Cameron Jordan and Jordan Cameron would be funny as hell.

Toss in how deep this draft is at positions of need for the Saints, and I think the Saints could snag some quality guys with that late 1st and early 3rd, continuing the trend of getting younger and building thru the draft.
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