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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:21 pm    Post subject: UNFSAINT'S SAINTS MOCK Reply with quote

Rd 1. LaMarcus Joyner, CB/FS, FSU
-Rob Ryan loves his nickel packages and players with versatility to play multiple roles. Kenny Vaccaro played SS, FS, Nickel CB, Outside CB, and OLB last season. Not kidding. Joyner is a very similar player in regards to his versatility. I believe that he has better ball skills and more capabilities in deep zone coverages. At worst Joyner fits in great as a nickel CB...and at best, he becomes an Earl Thomas-type FS that the Saints have lacked since Sharper's first season.

Rd 2. Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU
-He reminds me a ton of Joe Horn. Good, not great size. Good strength and strong hands. Has ability to separate and be a well rounded WR. Was far more impressive than Beckman in my opinion. Will be overlooked as a 1st round prospect because he isn't flashy. Keenan Allen was also not flashy...but like Allen, Landry understands how to play the position.

Rd 3. Trevor Reilly, OLB, Utah
-It would appear that Rob Ryan would like to run more 3-4 under sets but doesn't have the personnel. Rufus Johnson remains a huge project at this point. Victor Butler has some potential at the point, but he is coming off a significant injury, is one a one year contract, and has not proven that he is a full-time player. Reilly has the ability to anchor the strong side in under fronts...something that practically every other 3-4 OLB lacks. Compares favorably to Paul Krueger, who came from the same university.

Rd 4. Bryan Stork, C, FSU
-I am not sure that he is going to make it to the fourth round...but it would be an excellent opportunity for the Saints if he did. He would be an immediate upgrade over DLP.

Rd 5. Jordan Zumwalt, ILB, UCLA
-An intelligent, incredibly aggressive ILB, who Rob Ryan would love. Personality much like Kenny Vaccaro...wanting to go out decapitating people. At the very worst would be a special teams gem. He has the upside to get significant playing time in 2014 and potentially start in 2015.

Rd 6. Billy Turner, OT/OG, North Dakota State
-Fit the mold for what the Saints target from OL prospects. Very solid athleticism. Multiple year starter who dominated his level of competition. Will fall in the draft due to concerns about level of competition. The Saints bank on these guy yearly.

Rd 7. Branden Oliver, RB, Buffalo
-Anyone who watched Buffalo play couldn't help to see two things. 1) Khalil Mack is a future star 2) Oliver is a stud RB. He reminds me a ton of Gio Bernard. Low COG and difficult to bring down. Nice wiggle and vision. Very good receiver out of the backfield. Dominated his level of competition. Could potentially be a future replacement for Darren Sproles.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love Joyner, Landry, Stork, and Turner. Turner and Landry are in my mock as well. Nice mock though, agree with all the positions. We don't have a 7th rounder though unless you're projecting the comp. pick we'll get.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FLOODx wrote:
Love Joyner, Landry, Stork, and Turner. Turner and Landry are in my mock as well. Nice mock though, agree with all the positions. We don't have a 7th rounder though unless you're projecting the comp. pick we'll get.


Oops. You're right. Well...hopefully Oliver can go UDFA...though I doubt it. Khalil Mack drew too much attention to him.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joyner is entirely too small for a 1st round grade. 5'8''? Just remember we don't need any more unfavorable mismatches when trying to stop game winning drives. Small corners become bait.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taquarih wrote:
Joyner is entirely too small for a 1st round grade. 5'8''? Just remember we don't need any more unfavorable mismatches when trying to stop game winning drives. Small corners become bait.


He would be starting at FS. Certainly didn't look like height was a factor for Tyrann Mathieu. Also not a factor for Earl Thomas a bunch of other really good safeties at 5'10".
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My final mock:

Rnd 1) Odell Beckham, WR, LSU- The Saints will look to get more quick twitch offensive players on the team, and Beckham fits the bill. I am not convinced that Beckham is a #1 WR...but he would be a very strong #2 who would take pressure off of Graham and Colston. Could potentially develop into a #1.

Rnd 1) Saints trade their 2014 2nd rounder and 2015 1st rounder to the New England Patriots and select Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois- I believe with the lose of many veteran offensive players, it will ease the transition away from Drew Brees. I firmly believe that Drew Brees will want to play until he is 45...but realistically, I am not confident that he isn't already regressing. He struggled with his deep ball this season. Maybe Dr. Andrews' rocket arm has an expiration date. Garoppolo is the ABSOLUTELY perfect fit for the offense and there is no question that Payton would love to get him. The Saints have not been afraid to trade away picks in the past to get who they want.

Rnd 3) Christian Jones, ILB, FSU- Highly underrated LB. He can lineup at any LB position and get it done. If you are looking for a ILB for the nickel...he is your guy. He runs well...cover wells...and can blitz. An absolutely PERFECT fit for the Saints 4-2-5 base.

Rnd 4) Phillip Gaines, CB, Rice- Dennard? Gilbert? Fuller? Gaines schooled every CB at the combine. And it's not just his athleticism...it's his skills. The two most important attributes for a CB are: 1) Loose hips and 2) a chip on their shoulder. Gaines has a chance to be the best CB from this draft class.

Rnd 5) Charles Sims, RB, WV- The best receiving RB from this draft class. He actually reminds me a ton of a guy I am sure the Saints regret missing on a few years back - Matt Forte. He would definitely fill a niche on this offense.

Rnd 6) Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama- Local boy...D'Iberville, MS. Very underrated throughout his time in Alabama with more flashy players around him. Tested out better than expected at the combine. A big body to compete for a roster spot with Toon as an eventual replacement to Marques Colston.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unfsaint wrote:
taquarih wrote:
Joyner is entirely too small for a 1st round grade. 5'8''? Just remember we don't need any more unfavorable mismatches when trying to stop game winning drives. Small corners become bait.


He would be starting at FS. Certainly didn't look like height was a factor for Tyrann Mathieu. Also not a factor for Earl Thomas a bunch of other really good safeties at 5'10".

Huge difference between 5'8" and 5'10". Also, Mathieu played mostly as a slot CB.
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Rnd 1) Saints trade their 2014 2nd rounder and 2015 1st rounder to the New England Patriots and select Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois- I believe with the lose of many veteran offensive players, it will ease the transition away from Drew Brees. I firmly believe that Drew Brees will want to play until he is 45...but realistically, I am not confident that he isn't already regressing. He struggled with his deep ball this season. Maybe Dr. Andrews' rocket arm has an expiration date. Garoppolo is the ABSOLUTELY perfect fit for the offense and there is no question that Payton would love to get him. The Saints have not been afraid to trade away picks in the past to get who they want.



Some on here will hate this idea but I find it realistic "IF" Sean Payton truly feels Garoppolo is a future Franchise quarterback. I personally feel Brees will play about 5 more seasons but only about 2-3 of those will be with the Saints. This would give New Orleans an Aaron Rogers / Brett Favre type scenario.

I'm not one of the na´ve that believe that there is no way Brees ever suits up for another franchise... If Joe Montana and Payton Manning can become Chiefs and Broncos, Brees surely isn't above playing for someone other than the Saints.
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