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2014 New York Jets Offseason

Final Record: 8-8

Salary Cap
League Projected Cap: $133,000,000
Projected Carry Over: $1,500,000
Jets Cap Limit: $134,500,000
Jets Top 51: $107,343,879
Jets Cap: $27,156,121 under

Cuts
CB Antonio Cromartie released – $9.5 million cap savings
QB Mark Sanchez released – $8.3 million cap savings
WR Santonio Holmes released – $8.25 million cap savings
RB Mike Goodson released – $1.32 million cap savings



CAP UPDATE: $54,526,121 under


Re-signed
K Nick Folk – franchise tagged – 1 year, $3.556 million
RT Austin Howard – resigned – 4 years, $20 million (Cap Hit: $3 million)
TE Jeff Cumberland – resigned – 2 years, $5.5 million (Cap Hit: $2.25 million)
CB Ellis Lankster – resigned – 2 years, $1.63 million (Cap Hit: $730,000)
LB Calvin Pace – resigned – 1 year, $2.5 million
DL Leger Douzable – resigned – 1 year, $940,000
CB Darrin Walls (RFA) – untendered, resigned – 1 year, $730,000
LB Nick Bellore (RFA) – untendered, resigned – 1 year, $730,000
LB Jermaine Cunningham – resigned – 1 year, $730,000
QB Matt Simms – resigned – 1 year, $495,000





Free Agency

BREAKING: Emmanuel Sanders chooses Green, seeks to be “Top Dog”

The Jets have a lot more work to do, but signing Sanders isn’t a bad start. The Sanders-to-Jets rumors have persisted for a while now and it’s not hard to see why – Sanders is a versatile receiver that does a good job of making plays after the catch. Sanders will have other offers on the table, but it’ll be hard to turn down the Jets offer which provides good money AND the possibility of being a teams #1 receiver. Sanders is more likely to be a #2/#3 option when it’s all said and done, the Jets were smart to lock up the receiver they were after rapidly before another team (the Patriots) could step in. Although the $22.5 figure will be somewhat frightening to Jets fans, all the guaranteed money will be tied into the early years of the deal incase Sanders doesn’t reach expectations in years 3-5.

Contract: Contract: 5 years, $22.5 million (Cap Hit: $3 million)



BREAKING: Michael Vick taking I-95 to Gotham

Believe what you want, but I learned a long time ago to never doubt Adam Schefter. The Jets likely still see a future in Geno, but realize that they need a legitimate QB to push him in 2014. Vick, who spent time with Mornhinweg in Philadelphia, understands the Jets offense and likely sees it as (one of) the best opportunities for him to land a starting job. Vick isn’t much of a fit for teams such as Houston and Minnesota, and franchises with top 10 picks in need of a signal caller (Jacksonville, Cleveland, Oakland) will likely thrust potential draft picks into the lineup because, well, that’s what the NFL has evolved to. Although there have been reports of “tension” between Vick and the coaching staff back in 2012, there remains respect between Vick and his former offensive coordinator. Although I don’t agree that Vick is the answer to our troubles (I would prefer a McCown or Schaub), one thing that I love about him is how he’s evolved as an individual. He proved in 2013 that he is a Team Leader whether he be a starter or backup (see Riley Cooper situation). We need leadership in this locker room, and while Vick may seem like an unconventional one from a fan prospective, he’s proven to be a changed man and great role model for his teammates. Vick’s contract will be in-line with what Matt Cassel signed in 2013.

Contract: 2 years, $8.5 million – 2nd year Player Option (Cap Hit: $3.75 million)



BREAKING: Jets, Cards agree to trade that will send Tight End to New York

2013 was an unlucky year for Rob Housler. In 2012 Housler looked like a prime candidate to break out in 2013, then injuries and Bruce Arians stepped in. Arians is long known to be an advocate of “blocking” tight ends and even stated at the combine “tight ends for me block first, catch second”. The 25-year old Housler is an athletic pass-catching tight end who will likely never be utilized properly in Arizona, so it wouldn’t surprise me if the team dealt him for the right price this offseason. Idzik’s short tenure in New York has been defined by unorthodox, yet clever acquisitions via free agency and draft, and this move nearly mimics the one he made a year ago for RB Chris Ivory. Housler should enter training camp as the odds-on favorite to win the starting job by September.

Terms: New York Jets send their 4th round pick to the Arizona Cardinals in exchange for TE Rob Housler
Cap Hit: $1.389 million



After Testing the Market, Antonio Cromartie re-ups with Jets

Cromartie struggled throughout 2013, but the Jets will give him the benefit of the doubt and label it a fluke. However, Cromartie’s salary is prohibitive and the Jets released him with full intention of bringing him back if the price was right. The blueprint of the new deal is very similar to fellow 30-year-old corner DeAngelo Hall’s contract with Washington. The main difference: Cromartie’s first year salary will be fully guaranteed, but if he flops again, the Jets will be able to cut him without cap ramifications. He will receive a signing bonus of $3.5 million and a first year base salary of $3 million.

Contract: 4 years, $17 million (Cap Hit: $3.875 million)



Donald Brown Returning Home

John Idzik has made interesting moves before, and with the shape of our offense I won’t rule anything out. Recent rumors suggest the Jets are going to be involved in the RB market, and my gut tells me that the staff may look at Chris Ivory as a “luxury” back who does his best in a rotation due to his uncertain injury history. Donald Brown is more of a complete running back that can catch the ball and be an impact player on 3rd downs. In many ways, the Jets are brining in Donald Brown to provide the type of impact on offense that they expected out of Goodson last offseason. The addition likely spells the end of Mike Goodson’s career with the Jets. Brown is fully expected to compete with Ivory and Powell for snaps, but in all likelihood will split carries with Ivory and win the 3rd down role.

Contract: 3 years, $10 million (Cap Hit: $2.5 million)



Shelley Smith to Compete with the NYJ

The Jets are in need of a veteran presence at guard after Willie Colon went down with an injury and Winters was somewhat a disappointment in his rookie year. Shelley Smith isn’t a well-known guard, but he’s been a solid depth presence for the Rams over the past 2 seasons and at the very least will compete for a starting spot on the Jets line during training camp.

Contract: 1 year, $1.3 million



Seeking Leadership at Receiver, Jets bring in Jason Avant

Jason Avant may be on his last legs, but the Jets want Avant more for his intangible impact on the team. There will be an influx of receivers this offseason and Avant is a locker room leader who shares a long history with Marty Mornhinweg. Who better to be a mentor than Avant? His career isn’t over yet, but he will have to compete for reps in training camp. Most likely makes the team as a 4th/5th receiver and direct backup to Jeremy Kerley.

Contract: 1 year, $1.1 million



NY taking a chance on O’Brien Schofield

2013 was an interesting year for Schofield – he was cut by Arizona after starting all 9 games before injuring his knee, then signed with Seattle and won a Super Bowl. As talented as Schofield can be, his career has been ridden with injuries. He played exclusively as a backup to Bruce Irvin and contributed on special teams. In his own words, Schofield feels that 2013 was a big year for him in terms of “boosting” his football IQ. Although he didn’t play much, signing him wouldn’t hurt and he still has a whole career in front of him.

Contract: 1 year, $1.1 million



Jets add Special Teams Ace Kavell Conner

I expect the Jets to make addressing special teams a priority this offseason. With that, the Jets go out and sign 5th year veteran Conner in order to provide ILB depth while also improving their special teams. Conner has started in 36 games throughout his first 3 seasons and should be able to contribute on defense if needed.

Contract: 1 year, $1.1 million


CAP UPDATE: $20,051,121 under





2014 NFL Draft



Preview
Entering the 2014 Draft, the Jets will be fully loaded with 11 picks and are in much better shape than they were this time last year. This draft is expected to be very different from last years; in 2013 the Jets drafted the best players available and miraculously netted 5 starters out of 7 picks, however, much of that could be attributed to the lack of cap flexibility and roster talent. This time around, the Jets have filled most of their needs in the free agent and trade markets and aim to draft players who not necessarily will make a huge impact right away, but will be the foundation of the team for the future.


Day 1: May 8th, 2014

Round 1
With the 18th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
Odell Beckham Jr., Wide Receiver, LSU

Weigh-In: 5’11” ¼, 198 lbs.
Arm Length: 32 3/4”
Hands: 10”
40 YD: 4.43
NFL Comparison: Percy Harvin

The NFL is fascinated with rare athletes and Odell Beckham Jr. is one of those prospects that will rise significantly higher than fans will anticipate on draft day due to his unique abilities. At this rate, it wouldn’t shock me if Beckham weren’t even available at this point. Beckham put everything together in 2013, totaling 2315 all-purpose yards and 9 TDs on the season. Odell isn’t a towering receiver, but he has a solid build, long arms and huge hands. He’s a terrific hands catcher and is awesome at catching the ball at the highest point, often showing off his vertical as he consistently leaped over defenders to catch the ball at its highest point. I hate to use the Percy Harvin comparison because fans will automatically see this as the Jets “copying” the Seahawks, but Odell shows similarities in his size, speed, fluidness, athleticism, YAC and elite special teams ability. Odell is the type of playmaker that will keep Defensive Coordinators on their heels, which is an aspect that our offense sorely needs. At the end of the day, I think Odell could even go earlier than this, but with so much depth at receiver in this draft landing at 18 sounds about right.




Day 2: May 9th, 2014

Round 2
With the 49th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
Lamarcus Joyner, Safety, Florida State

Weigh-In: 5’8”, 184 lbs.
Arm Length: 31 1/2”
Hands: 9 1/2”
40 YD: 4.55
Pro Comparison: Tyrann Mathieu-Bob Sanders

After watching Tyrann Mathieu tear it up in Arizona last year, you can be sure the Jets will be heavily monitoring Lamarcus Joyner throughout the draft process. Last offseason, Rex Ryan and the Jets were reportedly “intrigued” by the Honey Badger, but were likely taken back by his off-the-field issues. GM John Idzik will go to Rex Ryan’s offense, ask him to watch tape of Mathieu from 2013, watch tape of Lamarcus Joyner, and ask whether Rex can fit him into this defense. Joyner is a football player-first type prospect; he can play multiple positions and is one of the most violent players you’ll ever watch despite his size. Although Joyner lacks elite size, Rex Ryan hasn’t held this against his safeties; after all, Jim Leonhard was his preferred FS from 2009-2011. Joyner is similar in stature, but don’t get him confused with Leonhard talent-wise – Joyner would likely be a top-10 pick if he were 6’2”. Joyner has an extremely high football IQ, elite physicality, explosive, and consistently made game0changing plays for the Seminoles throughout his college career. Joyner will enter the offseason program as a niche player who can play all over the nickel packages in addition to safety, and could very well win the job by the start of the season. Joyner has the ability to be the next “defensive specialist” in Rex Ryan’s creative defense. At the very worst, an elite slot corner to replace Kyle Wilson next year.



Round 3
With the 69th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
Jimmy Garoppolo, Quarterback, Eastern Illinois

Weigh-In: 6’2 3/8”, 221 lbs.
Arm Length: 32 3/8”
Hands: 9 1/4”
NFL Comparison: Tony Romo

Remember when everyone clamored last year that the Nassib’s and Glennon’s would be sure fire 1st-2nd round picks (I being one of them)? Although Garoppolo is one of my favorites in the draft this year, I’m not buying all of the hype just yet. Personally, I only believe one team will be drafting a Quarterback in the 2nd round – the Vikings – and I see them opting for Zach Mettenberger.

It should come to no surprise that the Jets are risking one of their 3rd round picks on another QB. John Idzik is a huge advocate of competition and taking the best player available on the Jets’ board, which seems to be the case with this pick. The team signed Michael Vick to compete with Geno Smith in the short term, but drafting Garoppolo gives the team some assurance if Geno doesn’t pan out long-term. Not all of Geno’s struggles in 2013 can be placed on him – the Jets had possibly the worst collection of pass-catchers in the NFL – however, after going back to watch the tape, the Jets can’t possibly be convinced that Geno Smith is the clear-cut future of the team. I think GM John Idzik is willing to take a QB in every draft until he finds a serviceable one, which I believe is a good strategy. When it’s all said and done, risking a few 2’s and 3’s will be well worth it if it means landing a 10-year starter. Garoppolo in the top end of the 3rd round will be considered a steal to many and he very well may not be here, but as I implied earlier, I only see one team drafting a QB in the 2nd round (Minnesota) with the rest of the teams drafting QBs in the 1st (Houston, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Oakland). Jimmy Garoppolo has all the physical tools needed to play the position. Specifically, he possesses an excellent release, anticipation, arm strength, and great fundamentals for the position. Garoppolo could use some time to mature as a signal caller, but he has some serious talent and the Jets have shown a ton of interest in him. If Geno proves to be successful in 2014, the team will have 2 young QBs to develop going forward. As they say, 2 is better than 1.



With the 80th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
Christian Kirkley, Linebacker, Iowa

Weigh-In: 6’2”, 233 lbs.
Arm Length: 32 3/8”
Hands: 9 3/8”
NFL Comparison: Kevin Burnett

Kirksey fits the description of what the Jets are looking for on defense: tough, long, and athletic. It’s an interesting fit because there really isn’t a “need” for an inside linebacker, but as evidenced with the last pick, the Jets will take the best player available on their board. Despite a lean build, Kirksey is a very physical linebacker who plays well at the LOS and takes good angles against the run. Kirksey has the frame to grow at least 10 lb. and will likely put him on a similar program that they had Davis on, who has grown substantially since joining the Jets in 2012. What’s most important with him is the fluidity and quickness he displays in his game. He has very loose hips and should develop into a plus-coverage linebacker with time. Christian is strictly a “Will” linebacker, which is the position that DeMario Davis plays, but with David Harris becoming a free agent next offseason, the Jets could slide Davis over to the MLB spot to make room for Kirksey as the teams starting WLB in 2015.




Day 3: May 10th, 2014

Round 4
With the 134th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
Adrian Hubbard, Linebacker, Alabama

Weigh-In: 6’6”, 257 lbs.
Arm Length: 34 1/2”
Hands: 9 1/4”
NFL Comparison: Chandler Jones-minus

Adrian Hubbard in the 4th round would’ve been considered improbable a few months ago, but in a deep draft Hubbard drops due to his unspectacular showing in 2013. Hubbard fits the mold of a Rex Ryan OLB – he has a nice blend of size and athleticism with long arms and is capable of playing versatile roles on defense. Again, Hubbard may not be a difference-maker yet, but he’s a raw defender with a high ceiling that could be one of Rex Ryan’s “pet projects” in the short term. His size and collegian productivity leave me thinking of a poor man’s Chandler Jones. Obviously, he’ll need a lot of work if he’s to emulate the NFL version of Jones, who’s produced 17.5 sacks in his 2-year career. If the staff can teach him to utilize his gifts and “explode” more consistently, Hubbard could play serious reps right away.



Round 5
With the 149th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
Walt Aikens, Cornerback, Liberty

Weigh-In: 6’0 1/2”, 205 lbs.
Arm Length: ---
Hands: ---
NFL Comparison: Keenan Lewis

Aikens fits the mold of corner that NFL teams have been trending towards: he’s big (6’1), long (32 ¼”), and athletic. A small school prospect that was forced to transfer from Illinois after dealing with legal issues back in 2010, Aikens got his chance at redemption when he was invited to the Senior Bowl, quickly showing scouts that he belonged. He excels in press-man coverage, possessing a nice initial jam and fluidness required to turn and run. He’s also a very good, competitive tackler. Aikens has legitimate developmental potential and could be in line for a shot at the starting job when Cromartie moves on.


With the 169th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
Allen Hurns, Wide Receiver, Miami

Weigh-In: 6’1”, 198 lbs.
Arm Length: 32”
Hands: 9 1/4”
NFL Comparison: Victor Cruz

Allen Hurns is the classic late-bloomer who could be a better pro then he was a collegiate receiver. The Miami product has clearly worked hard on his game and it came to fruition during his senior year. Hurns nearly doubled his production from 2010-2012 in 2013, racking up 62 receptions for 1162 yards and 6 TDs. Hurns is a quick receiver who fins the soft spots in zones frequently and is physical after the catch and as a downfield blocker. This prospect is a “jack of all trades, master of none”; he seems to do everything pretty well, but doesn’t posses a single trait that some of the top-tier prospects possess. Hurns will find a role on the NFL level because he works hard and has enough skill set to be a high end 2nd-4th option down the road.



Round 6
With the 189th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
De’Anthony Thomas, Offensive Weapon, Oregon

Weigh-In: 5’9”, 174 lbs.
Arm Length: 29 7/8”
Hands: 8 1/8”
NFL Comparison: Tavon Austin-minus

De’Anthony Thomas, once believed to be the fastest prospect in America, has lost quite a bit of steam since a year ago. Thomas lacks ideal size, has an injury history, had a disappointing combine, and doesn’t have a definite position in the NFL. These “red flags” equal a draft day fall, but Thomas is still a good prospect depending on whom you ask. Make no mistake; DT still has elite “football” speed regardless of his 40-time (see Dexter McCluster, Andre Ellington). The Jets are in need of gamebreakers, and DT has the skill set to provide explosive plays as a sub-package player and special teamer in the short term. In some cases I can see DT going earlier, but with Dri Archer basically proving he’s a “cleaner” version of Thomas, I think Thomas will get pushed down a bit by most teams.


With the 205th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
A.C. Leonard, TE, Tennessee State

Weigh-In: 6’2”, 252 lbs.
Arm Length: 33”
Hands: 9 1/4”
NFL Comparison: Timothy Wright

Fans won’t know much about Leonard yet, but will in a few months. Leonard is a Florida transfer who was one of their top recruits in 2011, but faced legal troubles and was forced to transfer. The big question is whether or not Leonard has matured (I have no way of knowing this). If he has cleaned up his act off the field, he should be highly sought after by NFL teams. Leonard is the type of “Joker” TE we’ve seen popping up all over the NFL recently – he’s a 6’3, 230-240 lb. versatile athlete built in the mold of Jordan Reed, who similarly saw his stock increase tremendously throughout the 2013 draft process. With the TE class being somewhat scarce after the top 3 players, it wouldn’t shock me to see Leonard drafted earlier.


With the 206th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
Kirby Van Der Kamp, Punter, Iowa State

Weigh-In: 6’4”, 210 lbs.
Arm Length: ---
Hand Size: ---

Ryan Quigley hasn’t been anything special and the Jets could use an upgrade. Doesn’t hurt to use a pick this late on one of the top punters in the draft.



Round 7
With the 225th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the New York Jets select…
Jabari Price, CB, North Carolina

Weigh-In: 5’10”, 200 lbs.
Arm Length: 31 5/8”
Hands: 9 1/8”

Prince has been a solid corner throughout his career at North Carolina – he’s a scrappy defensive back who played a lot of special teams throughout his career. He doesn’t project much more than a nickel player at best, but he may make the team if he’s able to prove he can play on the special teams unit right away.


Year One Rookie Pool Cap Hit: $2.22 million





Training Camp



Position Breakdown

OFFENSE
Quarterback
Starter: OPEN COMP – Geno Smith vs. Michael Vick
Roster Development: Jimmy Garoppolo
On the Bubble: Matt Simms

Running Back
1-2 down back: Chris Ivory
3rd down back: Donald Brown
Fullback: Tommy Bohanon
Backup: Bilal Powell
Roster Development: De’Anthony Thomas
On the Bubble: John Griffin, Darius Reynaud

Tight End
Starter: OPEN COMPRob Housler vs. Jeff Cumberland
Roster Development: A.C. Leonard
On the Bubble: Zach Sudfeld, Chris Pantale, Konrad Reuland, Colin Anderson

Wide Receiver
Starter (X): Emmanuel Sanders
Starter (Y): Jeremy Kerley
Starter (Z): OPEN COMP – Stephen Hill vs. Odell Beckham vs. David Nelson
Backup: Jason Avant
Roster Development: Stephen Hill, Allen Hurns
On the Bubble: Stephen Hill, David Nelson, Allen Hurns, Saalim Hakim, Greg Salas, Clyde Gates, Vidal Hazelton, Michael Campbell, Dwight Jones

Offensive Line
Starter (LT): D’Brickashaw Ferguson
Starter (LG): Brian Winters
Starter (C): Nick Mangold*
Starter (RG): OPEN COMPShelley Smith vs. Oday Aboushi vs. Bruce Campbell
Starter (RT): Austin Howard
Roster Development: Bruce Campbell, Oday Aboushi
On the Bubble: Jacolby Ashworth, Ben Ijalana, Oday Aboushi




DEFENSE
Defensive Line
Starter (DE): Muhammad Wilkerson*
Starter (NT): Damon Harrison
Starter (DT): Sheldon Richardson*
Backup: Kenrick Ellis, Leger Douzable
Roster Development: Kenrick Ellis
On the Bubble: Tevita Finau, TJ Barnes

Linebacker
Starter (DE/LB): Quinton Coples
Starter (MLB): David Harris
Starter (WLB): DeMario Davis
Starter (SLB): Calvin Pace
3rd Down Rusher: Antwan Barnes vs. O'Brien Schofield
Backup: Kavell Conner, Garrett McIntyre, Nick Bellore
Roster Development: Christian Kirkley, Adrian Hubbard, O'Brien Schofield
On the Bubble: Garrett McIntyre, Nick Bellore, Kavell Conner, Tim Fugger, Troy Davis, Jermaine Cunningham, Antwan Barnes, O'Brien Schofield

Cornerback
Starter (CB): Dee Milliner
Starter (CB): Antonio Cromartie
Starter (Nickel): Kyle Wilson
Backup (CB): Darrin Walls
Backup (Nickel): Ellis Lankster
Roster Development: Walt Aiken, Jabari Prince
On the Bubble: Johnny Patrick, Ras-I Dowling, Lowell Rose, Nick Taylor

Saftey
Starter: OPEN COMP – Dawan Landry vs. Antonio Allen vs. Lamarcus Joyner vs. Josh Bush
Starter: OPEN COMP – Dawan Landry vs. Antonio Allen vs. Lamarcus Joyner vs. Josh Bush
Roster Development: Josh Bush, Lamarcus Joyner
On the Bubble: Jaiquawn Jarrett, Rontez Miles, Brandon Hardin




SPECIAL TEAMS
Kicker: Nick Folk
Punter: OPEN COMP – Ryan Quigley vs. Kirby Van Der Kamp
LS: Tanner Purdum
KR: OPEN COMP – Odell Beckham vs. Emmanuel Sanders vs. De’Anthony Thomas
PR: OPEN COMP – Odell Beckham vs. Emmanuel Sanders vs. De’Anthony Thomas




Contract Extension
DE Muhammad Wilkerson signs a 5-year, $60 million extension

The Jets realize that Wilkerson is their best player on the team and that there’s no reason to let him even come close to free agency after this season. I think the Jets lock the big man up to a contract a little north of what Calais Campbell received with Arizona. Wilkerson will receive a $15 million signing bonus.
Cap Hit: $3 million

UPDATED: $14,831,121 under


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Pretty realistic offseason. I don't think it helps out the offense immensely, but maybe that's Idziks plan. He might know we can't be fixed in 1 offseason and doesn't want to waste money.
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I like it, but the Donald Brown and Jason Avant signings confuse me. Garropolo will prob also not make it out of the 2nd.
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1st I have to say this is by far the best layout for a mock I've seen in a while on here. Nice.

As for as the moves, possible moves. I'm not a big fan of Joyner, but wouldn't be mad at that pick. Vick is a scary situation, but I'm trusting Idzik if he was to make that move.

I've been a Sanders fan for a while and think he will do great in this system. I didn't watch much Housler, so I can't say to much about the trade. I do like his age and potential.

I know a lot of people on here will be against picking a QB, but I don't mind. I like Jimmy G. If both QBs turn out to be good, we'll be able to pull in a good trade.

Aikens is one of my potential CB's to develop behind Cro.
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like everything. hopefully everything works out during Free Agency..
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Bobby816 wrote:
Pretty realistic offseason. I don't think it helps out the offense immensely, but maybe that's Idziks plan. He might know we can't be fixed in 1 offseason and doesn't want to waste money.


That's pretty much the approach I took. Every time I create mocks I try to stay as unbiased as possible and put myself in the shoes of our GM.

He hasn't came off as the type of GM that's willing to go out and spend a bunch - he's going to make calculated risks, but he won't mortgage the future on free agents. If a player doesn't work out, just cut him. On the other hand they can work out tremendously (see Michael Bennett) and then we'll be using our left over cap room to extend them.

That's what makes this years draft a little different than last year. Ideally we would've drafted BPAs and allowed them to develop for a year, but with so many holes on last years roster our rookies were thrust in the starting lineup. This offseason we fill holes with better free agents on short-term deals, then draft BPA without having to force them into the lineup.


barnaby8787 wrote:
I like it, but the Donald Brown and Jason Avant signings confuse me. Garropolo will prob also not make it out of the 2nd.


I had us signing Donald Brown mostly because of the rumor to be honest. Although it very much could be wrong, I figured he's pretty much what the Jets saw in Mike Goodson last year, just more polished.

Jason Avant is mostly just a "leadership" signing, similar to what David Garrard was except Avant can still play. May or may not make the roster, but we need to get away from a Santonio Holmes-led receiving core and start fresh with a proven locker room leader like Avant.

I agree with you on Garoppolo, but I'm avoiding the rumors for this one. Everyone and their mother said Ryan Nassib and Mike Glennon were 2nd round QBs and they fell to the 4th and 3rd rounds... it takes two to tango. If all the teams in need of QBs draft them in the 1st, I can't see a team use a 2nd round pick in a DEEP draft on a developmental QB. We'll see at least 3 QBs come off the board in the 3rd round IMO, but if the 5th team needing a QB (in this mock I presumed the Vikings) go in another direction, he'll fall.
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Your comparisons are on point.
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I appreciate the comments and input


To expand on my selection of Garoppolo (falling to the top of the 3rd), I'll diagram how I believe it works out:

HOU - Bortles
JAX - Bridgewater
CLE - Manziel
OAK - Carr
MIN - Mettenberger (2nd round)

The remaining teams that could arguably use a QB are the following
NYJ - X - sign Michael Vick, draft Garoppolo in 3rd round
TEN - draft AJ McCarron in 3rd round
TB - X, sign Josh McCown
STL
ATL - X
GB - X
SD - X
ARI - X
NO - X

All the teams with X's are teams that I don't believe will draft QBs in the 2nd round. The draft is too deep to use a 2nd round pick on a developmental starter when you already have an above average QB at the helm.

I definitely see Tennessee taking a QB, but I think ideally they would wait until the 3rd round. Keep in mind that they likely want a polished QB that may not be as raw as Garoppolo because they haven't necessarily given up on Locker yet, but would take a flier on someone who could potentially unseat him right now.

I could see Tampa Bay being interested if a top QB fell to them, but Glennon has more upside than any of the second-tier QBs do anyway.

St. Louis is the one team who I could see taking Garoppolo in the 2nd. They have a lot of draft picks, they keep stockpiling talent so it's not like they "need" a day 1 starter out of the 2nd round, and they still haven't discovered whether Bradford is the answer. All I've heard was praise for Bradford out of St. Louis, and up until the injury he was having a stellar season albeit one game. I think it's more possible that they take a QB then the others, but I'm still not buying it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love trading for a TE and signing Avant.
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Bobby816 wrote:
Pretty realistic offseason. I don't think it helps out the offense immensely, but maybe that's Idziks plan. He might know we can't be fixed in 1 offseason and doesn't want to waste money.


This in a nutshell. Its not very flashy, in fact I really dont even like Sanders much and think hes very overated and him paired with Odell doesn't do much for me. No need for two starting WRs under 6'0. Thats a marginal upgrade over what we have now in such a deep draft for WRs. However its very possible that this happens.

Overall this was a brilliant mock, and its very realistic. A lot of the signings and draft picks were selected based on legitimate reports of interest. Very realistic. I just pray (like i do on most draft days) that we FINALLY trade down from 18 into the late 20s and pick up another pick. I really would like 2 WRs in the first three rounds. In fact I would even take Jordan Matthews at that spot and a receiver who falls in either round two or three and that offense will be set. But overall this was an excellent write up. I could see us being a 9-7 team with a chance to go 10-6.
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I for one dislike the avant signing. Only value I see in him is as a coach. As a player all he'd be doing is taking reps away from a younger WR who could get better. Let's say we bring in a 1st or 2nd round rookie and a Sanders, a Nicks, Tate type guy. That would mean Avant would either be a pointless signing or taking reps away from the high round rookie, Nelson and Hill. Nelsonand Hill aren't anything great. But they atleast could get better not worse like Avant will. I'd rather spend that money elsewhere.
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While I like Avant, if we get someone like Sanders we don't really need him. But if your plan is to stockpile WRs and then see who sticks after training camp, then that makes more sense. Depends on how many WRs we draft, but in this scenario I can't see Avant making our team with Sanders plus 2 rookie WRs.

I like the Brown signing, he would be a nice replacement for Goodson. He would immediately come in and be our 3rd down back.

Housler is an intriguing name, one that I never gave much thought to. But he is a pretty good TE and I def wouldn't be against adding him.

Vick and resigning Cro are moves I feel that we will make as well.
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Jetsfandan423 wrote:
While I like Avant, if we get someone like Sanders we don't really need him. But if your plan is to stockpile WRs and then see who sticks after training camp, then that makes more sense. Depends on how many WRs we draft, but in this scenario I can't see Avant making our team with Sanders plus 2 rookie WRs.

I like the Brown signing, he would be a nice replacement for Goodson. He would immediately come in and be our 3rd down back.

Housler is an intriguing name, one that I never gave much thought to. But he is a pretty good TE and I def wouldn't be against adding him.

Vick and resigning Cro are moves I feel that we will make as well.



Regarding Avant: I took the stockpile approach. Every man will be fighting for a roster spot like last offseason (see Peterman, Garay)

Regarding Housler: I wanted to get creative with the tight end position, and I think he's a name that could be dangled in trade talks. Arizona has clearly stated that they prefer block-first TEs, and if they can land a 4th for Housler why not? He clearly doesn't fit the system and will be an unrestricted free agent next year. As long as Bruce Arians is running the show, Housler won't be able to maximize his potential in that offense. They can sign Ben Hartsock (the best blocking TE in football) or another blocking TE for pretty cheap to pair with a rookie and the guys currently on their roster (Ballard, Dray). Not to mention, Dray started every game for the Cardinals last season.
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After reading up on the Housler situation, I actually really like that move. I could def see Arizona trying to trade him since they don't value TEs as high as most teams do nowadays. He's still young, is big, and very athletic. He basically just needs a chance to showcase his skills, which could be here.
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Jetsfandan423 wrote:
After reading up on the Housler situation, I actually really like that move. I could def see Arizona trying to trade him since they don't value TEs as high as most teams do nowadays. He's still young, is big, and very athletic. He basically just needs a chance to showcase his skills, which could be here.



Very similar to the Chris Ivory situation in terms of overall skill set, red flags (injury), and poor fit
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