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jebrick


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Someone turned me on to Derrell JohnsonOLB ECU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP0Tt8eA5sM

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Rates as one of the top performers in the Pirates' strength and conditioning program ... Off-season testing produced a new all-time position and team record with a 405-pound push jerk ... Other "excellent-rated" status marks include a bench press of 425 pounds, a power clean of 338 pounds, a back squat of 585 pounds, a vertical leap of 35", a broad jump of 115" and a 40 time of 4.58 ... Has played in 37 games and will open the 2013 campaign with 36-straight starts, which serves as the longest active streak in the ECU program ... Has recorded multiple tackles in 30 of 37 outings and has booked at least one tackle in 25 consecutive contests, dating back to the 2011 season opener vs. South Carolina.


Late round pick but something you look for with that broad jump and vert. That shows explosiveness. Very much like Deebo. Needs technique.


He is explosive and quick but he looks very stiff. He doesn't seem like he can bend and rip upfield. With his power and speed, I would use him as an ILB to control the middle of the LOS.


Very Deebo like. Harrison was not "flexible" either. He is walking tackles back to the QB. He sheds blocks to get to the ball carriers. get this guy some technique and he would be good.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think the answer to this question is going to end up being Dee Ford.

Kid can bend the edge like no other prospect in this class and certainly seems to have the motivation and leadership teams crave.

He's gotta be in the mix for the Steelers at 15.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really think the answer to this question is going to end up being Dee Ford.

Kid can bend the edge like no other prospect in this class and certainly seems to have the motivation and leadership teams crave.

He's gotta be in the mix for the Steelers at 15.


Dee Ford is a very Steeler like pick. I just doubt they go OLB 2 years in a row.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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treat88 wrote:
I really think the answer to this question is going to end up being Dee Ford.

Kid can bend the edge like no other prospect in this class and certainly seems to have the motivation and leadership teams crave.

He's gotta be in the mix for the Steelers at 15.


Dee Ford is a very Steeler like pick. I just doubt they go OLB 2 years in a row.


Usually, I would agree.

With both Wood and Worilds up in the air it may be that atypical kind of year.

Assuming Worilds walks, no way do I feel good about the premier defensive position in the scheme with Woodley/Jones/Carter manning it.

Keep Worilds and switch that to Worilds/Jones/Carter and I don't feel any better.

Vet signing...sure. They might bring in a body. Not much more.

It's not my first choice of positions to spend a first rounder on, but the position and Ford make a lot of sense...especially if they think the O was good enough in the second half.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dee Ford would be a terrible pick, a reach and no matter what happens with Worlids, he shouldnt be the pick, and I am pretty confident he wont.
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Dee Ford would be a terrible pick, a reach and no matter what happens with Worlids, he shouldnt be the pick, and I am pretty confident he wont.


Kinda sending mixed signals here. How do you really feel about Ford?


Wink

Kids a stud IMO.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dee Ford would be a terrible pick, a reach and no matter what happens with Worlids, he shouldnt be the pick, and I am pretty confident he wont.


Kinda sending mixed signals here. How do you really feel about Ford?


Wink

Kids a stud IMO.


We all have our opinions on players.

I see nothing special about the guy...at all.

My feelings there have more to do with him as our 1st round pick.

For instance, I dont want Ford in the 1st, but the 2nd would be okay....unlike Nix who I wouldnt take until the 4th round (personally)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dee Ford is not a pick at 15. It is a pick if they trade back to the lower 20's or out of the 1st round all together.
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Dee Ford is Jason Worilds as a rookie, but in the first round. All first step and athleticism
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I could be wrong about Ford, but I'm a sucker for get off and ankle flexibility and Ford has those in spades. He can bend the edge like no one else in the class.

Everything I hear says he's going to interview off the charts. I'm guessing he'll have a few more fans after the combine.

I'm tempted to throw down a wager for any interested that he goes before Barr.
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I could be wrong about Ford, but I'm a sucker for get off and ankle flexibility and Ford has those in spades. He can bend the edge like no one else in the class.

Everything I hear says he's going to interview off the charts. I'm guessing he'll have a few more fans after the combine.

I'm tempted to throw down a wager for any interested that he goes before Barr.

That flexibility to turn the corner reminds me of Robert Mathis. The way Mathis and Freeney used to get upfield was just beastly.
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Not the best perhaps but more small school talent

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/bruce-feldman/24441428/small-school-starr-ready-to-shine-at-nfl-combine

Tyler Starr 6-5 250
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Starr says he hass clocked a three-cone drill time of 6.29 in his training sessions in Tennessee. For comparison's sake, the fastest time in Indy last year was 6.52 by cornerback Will Davis from Utah. Oregon WR Jeff Maehl clocked a 6.42 in 2011, which the NFL considers its recent best. The fastest time by a linebacker last year was 6.71 by Mizzou's Zavier Gooden.

"I think I can blow that drill out of the water," Starr told CBSSports.com on Tuesday night. Even if he's anywhere near that mark, his stock should continue to rise.


this is what you look for in late round OLB picks. 3 cone drill, vertical jump and broad jump

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/tyler-starr-vs-kansas-2013/
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jonathan needs to SHOOOSH
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